Dedicated griefers on klei pub servers

[nimzowitsch10]

Right now there's 2 people that are continually burning literally every base on us east pub servers without fail. I could post their steam profiles but I know klei isn't going to do anything so you guys can relax with your pitchforks. They burned down every single base we've played in the past week including the hidden ones in the caves, think they've burned 5 worlds that we played up to around 70-100 days.

They probably got observor + nightvision and they are looking through the whole map to burn our base. This time we based in a more discrete location in caves and since they couldn't find it they played 20 days to end the server.

 

This is the first time I've come across dedicated griefers in my 3 years of playing pub servers and I already know klei isn't gonna do nothing. Probably gonna take a hiatus to get these guys off our back but just wanted to vent my frustration. These guys are burning other bases on pub servers as well and they have nothing better to do but make people miserable.

 

There are other posts about these 2 guys that is burning every base on even south america endless servers and they use racial slurs while they're burning down bases. I really think klei should step in this time for the good of the community.

[Dragonboooorn]

Welcome to the pubs, a place where you meet all kinds of people! Prepare for healthy teamplay, hermit guys who willl remember about your existence only to use your services or trade something, and of course, chaotic griefiers and trolls!

I mean, its the people who need to be fixed not anti grief system... But what the fun playing without risk?

[SecretPizzaMan]

I was right! I knew there was a griefer duo. 

[TheAesthetic]

This time they reset the server. We based in caves twice, everything burnt. The third time we based on lunar. Now the server is reset, just as we were about to do celestial like it was literally all set up by day 80 and the server is reset, no one on it, day 15. Guess you just can't sleep and have to kill celestial all in one sitting if you want to get anything done in a pub.

Edit: So I'm guessing it's atleast 3 people if they are regenerating the world. Being dedicated enough to regenerate a second year world with lunar storm active is just sad tho.

[nimzowitsch10]

@TheAesthetic Yeah i know, wat up uzi lol. Guess who i am

[dois raios]

1 hour ago, nimzowitsch10 said:

Right now there's 2 people that are continually burning literally every base on us east pub servers without fail. I could post their steam profiles but I know klei isn't going to do anything so you guys can relax with your pitchforks. They burned down every single base we've played in the past week including the hidden ones in the caves, think they've burned 5 worlds that we played up to around 70-100 days.

They probably got observor + nightvision and they are looking through the whole map to burn our base. This time we based in a more discrete location in caves and since they couldn't find it they played 20 days to end the server.

 

This is the first time I've come across dedicated griefers in my 3 years of playing pub servers and I already know klei isn't gonna do nothing. Probably gonna take a hiatus to get these guys off our back but just wanted to vent my frustration. These guys are burning other bases on pub servers as well and they have nothing better to do but make people miserable.

 

There are other posts about these 2 guys that is burning every base on even south america endless servers and they use racial slurs while they're burning down bases. I really think klei should step in this time for the good of the community.

that happens, someone destroyed a base in pk at least 3 times, and in oasis at least 2 times, now we have no base, i dont know if we will regenerate the world or make a base somewhere else in the surface, but it is kinda sad, i know that there is a risk, but i didnt know these guys were so dedicated to do griefing, the first time was frustrating, now it is just sad, i went into a mini base in a deciduous forest, and they just deleted it from the world, only a campfire was there when i looged into the server.

well, i guess i will became a nomad lol

[MondayNight]

Since KLei have a "hands off" approach to their own official game servers (they won't take any action whatsoever vs griefers/trolls), what you can do in regards to said griefers, OP, is: go on each of the biggest & most active DST communities discords out there (Don't Starve Together (DST), Diverse Survivors, How To Survive!, Don't Fight, Mighty Beard, etc) to report the trolls' duo/trio you recurrently encountered. "Make them famous" as they deserve, and get them banned on all communities out there, since those communities share block/ban lists anyway. Post evidence of their shenanigans in respective discords to get the point across, fairly so. Post their KLei ID's to this mod's page, with proof - NoGriefer - to have regular players using the mod kick them on sight from un-moderated pubs as well (KLei official servers included). Make those griefers "popular" and isolate the chaps as they seem so keen on having people pointing fingers at them. Make their future pub dwellings a nightmare too, as they did with random casuals only trying to enjoy some free-time gaming sessions.

[ALCRD]

NoGriefer seems to no longer be updated / abandoned. (No new bans ever make on their list despite reports with proof)

[maradyne]

...on the one hand, I get that maintaining basic anti-grief tools and ban lists as part of vanilla would be a really delicate process that would occasionally distract from other things, especially at first.

On the other hand...this topic displays both extremes of how leaving that up to the community and hoping things work out can get really yikes really fast.

 

Hope that official pub server solution that was talked about a while back is still in the pipes.

[GenomeSquirrel]

This is a blame the game, not the player type of issue, Klei designed structures to be destructible and flammable, created things that will destroy and burn bases.

It might be time to move on if you hate this.

[nimzowitsch10]

@GenomeSquirrel Possibly the worst take ever.

[. . .]

klei is not babysitter which need to watch server, their server is just for mindless playing and meeting ppl you want to play with on your own hosted server. the server will be griefed, it will regenerate, all progress will be reset. if anything they should step up is getting out update with new content faster which isn't skins. to play this game seriously it must be done in your own world or a trusted community like in every other single game with servers to exist, dst is nothing special. also klei already added a censorship filter option long time ago, if you have it off when you are offended by words then thats on you.

[GenomeSquirrel]

10 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said:

@GenomeSquirrel Possibly the worst take ever.

If you believe I am wrong, please explain why. Klei sets parameters for each item. Klei gave characters the ability to ignite, hammer, weather pain ect. Klei could make items more arduous to destroy with some coding. Klei could punish mass burning Krampus/Klaus style, and to much harder to degree.  But they didn’t, they created structures are easy to destroy on mass, and even made 2 seasons able to turn your base to ash.

[Faintly Macabre]

2 hours ago, GenomeSquirrel said:

If you believe I am wrong, please explain why.

Because even if you're given that changing structures to be harder to demolish when desired would be a good thing (and you're not), there's still plenty of room to blame people who exploit those things because their fun is others' misery?

[PetulantPansy]

@OP make sure to at least report those guys on the DST Survivors (Don't Starve Together) discord group. 

 

Klei may be stretched thin on resources but there are multiple DST communities who host vanilla moderated servers (like the group mentioned above). Griefers are dealt with immediately and frankly I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't play on those if they are worried about trolls destroying their experience. 

 

Note: not an advertisement for anything; just spreading the word that there are "safe" servers to enjoy DST on without too many worries. 

[Cheggf]

7 hours ago, GenomeSquirrel said:

If you believe I am wrong, please explain why. Klei sets parameters for each item. Klei gave characters the ability to ignite, hammer, weather pain ect. Klei could make items more arduous to destroy with some coding. Klei could punish mass burning Krampus/Klaus style, and to much harder to degree.  But they didn’t, they created structures are easy to destroy on mass, and even made 2 seasons able to turn your base to ash.

I agree. Klei should have just made Club Penguin where you can't place structures or do anything except talk to people. Because they didn't, they are responsible for griefers, not griefers. It's just like real life how criminals never get punished because it's God's fault for giving them arms and legs, not their own. 

 

15 hours ago, TheAesthetic said:

This time they reset the server. We based in caves twice, everything burnt. The third time we based on lunar. Now the server is reset, just as we were about to do celestial like it was literally all set up by day 80 and the server is reset, no one on it, day 15. Guess you just can't sleep and have to kill celestial all in one sitting if you want to get anything done in a pub.

Edit: So I'm guessing it's atleast 3 people if they are regenerating the world. Being dedicated enough to regenerate a second year world with lunar storm active is just sad tho.

It's not griefers resetting the server and it's not 3 of them. If a pub has 0 people on it it's basically guaranteed to be reset since nobody likes joining late servers which probably already have everything done (as yours did) so someone just joins and dies to reset to day 1. Then more people join since they see it's first Autumn. 

[Mysterious box]

10 hours ago, Cheggf said:

I agree. Klei should have just made Club Penguin where you can't place structures or do anything except talk to people. Because they didn't, they are responsible for griefers, not griefers. It's just like real life how criminals never get punished because it's God's fault for giving them arms and legs, not their own. 

 

You sir or madam almost killed me I spat out my drink laughing and went into a coughing fit.

But yea your right people can't expect to take ownership of a server and make it so it won't be reset when their not around that in itself is a form of griefing.

[Castiliano]

People are like, "Klei is not babysitter", which is a fact, but that also doesn't mean they can't improve the players' situation. One solution, among MANY, would be to remove the option to click to vote to reset an ENDLESS server, it already resets automatically in updates, that's enough. In fact, it should only reset with major updates and not with hotfixes, there were days when I was playing on one of these servers and it reset about three times. 

edit: these two griefers also burned everything on a server I was playing

[PetulantPansy]

21 minutes ago, Castiliano said:

People are like, "Klei is not babysitter", which is a fact, but that also doesn't mean they can't improve the players' situation. One solution, among MANY, would be to remove the option to click to vote to reset an ENDLESS server, it already resets automatically in updates, that's enough. In fact, it should only reset with major updates and not with hotfixes, there were days when I was playing on one of these servers and it reset about three times. 

edit: these two griefers also burned everything on a server I was playing

Not going to give these guys any ideas but endless servers can be made to be unplayable too. So making the server drag on for multiple weeks will not fix a thing. 

[Castiliano]

2 minutes ago, PetulantPansy said:

Not going to give these guys any ideas but endless servers can be made to be unplayable too. So making the server drag on for multiple weeks will not fix a thing. 

At the very least, it would lessen the problem for the moment. Today, again, they entered and reset the endless server south america. It was on day 900, now we are on 32 again.

[Wonz]

iT's a WaY tO pLaY tHe GaME if YoU doN't LiKe iT dOn't PlaY

By the way give me their names or IDs just so I can ban them on my places just in case.

[Waynel]

My advice: do not have crazy expectations for survival mode public servers when it comes to the longevity of these worlds.

[chincer]

griefers are something that exists in any game where cooperation meets the ability to do harm in any way.

the punishment isnt severe enough to deter it.

the damage its higher on the morale side than the actual gameplay

it encourage distrust toward new players

 

you would feel a much different atmosphere from dedicated servers not own by klei, a sense of camaraderie where you can trust people with the location of things, where the worse you can get most of the time are just dead weight players.

 

why are structures burnable by players? i get it about environment

why arent more resources that can be made completely scarse renewable?

.

 

[TheAesthetic]

22 hours ago, Cheggf said:

It's not griefers resetting the server and it's not 3 of them. If a pub has 0 people on it it's basically guaranteed to be reset since nobody likes joining late servers which probably already have everything done (as yours did) so someone just joins and dies to reset to day 1. Then more people join since they see it's first Autumn. 

It's an endless world dude. 
Edit: Specifically The Beehive (endless) US east. I agree resetting a world isn't always greifing but after being greifed 3 irl days in a row, this time it was deliberately done in order to reset our progress.They couldn't find the base in caves this time because we hid it on lunar, forking up our farm plots so they couldn't use observer camera to find the base. Which is why they regenerated. They knew progress was being done by lunar storm being active and couldn't find the base to burn and pillage so they just waited to regenerate. It's possible it was a random newcomer who wanted to restart but highly doubt it given it was basically a week of the server being targetted.

[goodguythatguy]

Since I began to maintain a 'No Randos' Standard, I haven't been griefed once. Pretty effective. 

I don't want to hang out at public school or public housing, what the heck would I go to a public server for?