DVGMedia Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Im a little sad that deerclops got nerfed. Its so crazy how you can remove AOE and how nerfed it makes the enemy especially if you can just kite under them. Klei buffed ancient gaurdian and nerfed Deerclops Deerclops in the clip is from uncompromising mod Which makes this boss fight harder but is completely undone by the new method of kiting deerclops added in the UI update https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyArtisticPigPrimeMe-NGky8ptBO0GhopWp Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDen220 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I tried to do this new way of dodging, for some reason I couldn't consistently pull it off without getting hit. I will just stick to the normal kiting pattern. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDupe Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Pretty sure that was the point. New players now have a slightly better chance at beating him and from a visual perspective it makes much more sense and so there are two different kiting patterns that you can use to fight Deerclops, you can still use the old one, which might even be safer. And the ancient guardian was not buffed, the fight was just made more interesting, it is much easier to beat it now than it was before if you didn't use indestructible structures to just hold F to kill it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarezen Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 deerclops was always easy, with 3-4 hit kiting or just place a fire down and tank and spank. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gods fiddler Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, EsaiXD said: Im a little sad that deerclops got nerfed. Its so crazy how you can remove AOE and how nerfed it makes the enemy especially if you can just kite under them. Klei buffed ancient gaurdian and nerfed Deerclops https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyArtisticPigPrimeMe-NGky8ptBO0GhopWp is the deerclops from uncompromising mode i think Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Not that she was ever hard before. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 This is way harder than just doing nothing other than hold f, the typical way DC is killed. The 60% damage increase is a notable buff. And AG stunning himself for 45 minutes every time he rams a pillar is an enormous decrease in difficulty. The fight is leagues easier than it used to be Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan Mele Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Cheggf said: And AG stunning himself for 45 minutes every time he rams a pillar is an enormous decrease in difficulty. The fight is leagues easier than it used to be I mean, it did remove the cheese Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Gods fiddler said: is the deerclops from uncompromising mode i think yeah it is Its currently what i am streaming for my gameplay Just to have some unique changes to have to survive with So this deerclops is supposed to be harder than default clops Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunty_x Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Cheggf said: And AG stunning himself for 45 minutes every time he rams a pillar is an enormous decrease in difficulty. The fight is leagues easier than it used to be TBF, the fight was always easy since it was cheesed. I think the Rework is better than just removing the cheese method imho. Just my 2 pennies Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 hours ago, EsaiXD said: Im a little sad that deerclops got nerfed. Its so crazy how you can remove AOE and how nerfed it makes the enemy especially if you can just kite under them. Klei buffed ancient gaurdian and nerfed Deerclops https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyArtisticPigPrimeMe-NGky8ptBO0GhopWp you should mention this is modded. i thought this is standard game. AG is easier after the rework Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 it's good now for new player Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1554962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 hours ago, reallychina said: you should mention this is modded. i thought this is standard game. AG is easier after the rework I mean yeah it is modded but that does not change the fact that the UI Update changed how deerclops fights and now This clops that has methods to go against the standard way of kiting him which is to spawn freeze craters so you cant just barely get outside of his attack range. instead now you can just go behind him. IM just saying deerclops should keep his small aoe damage he had which is the 60 dmg aoe around the base of his body so it makes it still require some skill to dodge his attack and that you don't just walk into him to dodge It just doesn't look right Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1555079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, EsaiXD said: I mean yeah it is modded but that does not change the fact that the UI Update changed how deerclops fights and now This clops that has methods to go against the standard way of kiting him which is to spawn freeze craters so you cant just barely get outside of his attack range. instead now you can just go behind him. IM just saying deerclops should keep his small aoe damage he had which is the 60 dmg aoe around the base of his body so it makes it still require some skill to dodge his attack and that you don't just walk into him to dodge It just doesn't look right It works the same identical way Ymir in Smite works.. if you can get behind Ymir the “Frost Giant” then you can avoid taking damage from the shards of Ice he spikes up out the ground in a path in front of him. I don’t see how you can say it doesn’t look right, for me it’s just logic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1555081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: It works the same identical way Ymir in Smite works.. if you can get behind Ymir the “Frost Giant” then you can avoid taking damage from the shards of Ice he spikes up out the ground in a path in front of him. I don’t see how you can say it doesn’t look right, for me it’s just logic. Because there are still spikes around him. Hence why he should still at least have his small aoe Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1555083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, EsaiXD said: Because there are still spikes around him. Hence why he should still at least have his small aoe Alternatively, Klei can just update the animation sprite so the spikes much like Ymir in Smite: Only extend in front of him, which would also visually help new players learn the intended kiting method for it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1555093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Alternatively, Klei can just update the animation sprite so the spikes much like Ymir in Smite: Only extend in front of him, which would also visually help new players learn the intended kiting method for it. The thing is are they going to do this for every enemy that has what looks like a directional attack? cause there is plenty more that look like this. Deerclops is the current outlier Heck even fuel weaver which does have a directional attack follows the target he is aggroed on. which is what deerclops used to do but now his attack is locked in place when the animation starts Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1555095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 f Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1555142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capybara007 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, EsaiXD said: The thing is are they going to do this for every enemy that has what looks like a directional attack? cause there is plenty more that look like this. Deerclops is the current outlier Heck even fuel weaver which does have a directional attack follows the target he is aggroed on. which is what deerclops used to do but now his attack is locked in place when the animation starts they did it with deerclops to match the fx, other enemies dont have fx, have attack animation when deerclops hit the ground and summoned ice spikes, these spikes actually did nothing, the game just puts other spikes in your feet in you were in the boss's range when the big spike appeared now there are no more random ice spikes in your feet because this big ice spike actually hits you and can be avoided in another way Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1555143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Capybara007 said: they did it with deerclops to match the fx, other enemies dont have fx, have attack animation when deerclops hit the ground and summoned ice spikes, these spikes actually did nothing, the game just puts other spikes in your feet in you were in the boss's range when the big spike appeared now there are no more random ice spikes in your feet because this big ice spike actually hits you and can be avoided in another way but you can still see the spikes under the feet deerclops eve has them at the base of his body. so those should still hit at least Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138827-man-deerclops-is-so-easy-now/#findComment-1555148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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