GamePlayer42 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Hello. I've seen lots of division in the forum's based on the new crafting system and I am curious. Why is the old crafting menu no longer an option for players who want it. It doesn't seem like much of a good idea to completely remove the old crafting menu when players are willing to quit over it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Probably because if they do keep it, a large amount of people will use it, rendering the work they put into the new one useless, since the new crafting UI is really good. Its less clunky, its clean and just better, and Kleis definitely doing the right thing switching to this system Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Because the old UI is way worse compared to the new one and it'd be way more work than it's worth keeping both of them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim0514 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Treeomp said: Hello. I've seen lots of division in the forum's based on the new crafting system and I am curious. Why is the old crafting menu no longer an option for players who want it. It doesn't seem like much of a good idea to completely remove the old crafting menu when players are willing to quit over it. they would have to upkeep 2 different huds also if someone was willing to quit over a bad hud then they werent staying for long anyways Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, LiamAshvinn001 said: Probably because if they do keep it, a large amount of people will use it, so by that, it means that the new ui is bad, because many will use the old and better one, wich is obviously better, since its actualy faster in use, but we had this talk so many times allready, that there is just no point arguin to yes sayers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePlayer42 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Grim0514 said: also if someone was willing to quit over a bad hud then they werent staying for long anyways It's been suggested to those who do not enjoy the new HUD, and I am willing to quit DST over it 7 minutes ago, Grim0514 said: R I don't really want to either Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. brj Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I don't remember who said it and what they said exactly, but one of the developers roughly said that the new crafting system makes it way easier to introduce new items into the game without having to put an unnecessary amount of effort. As an example, they mentioned that the whole reason the Terra Firma Tamper exists is because it was more convenient to create a new crafting station as opposed to fitting all the turf recipes into the structures tab. Even if you don't like the new system, I think we can at least agree that the old one was getting pretty crammed up in some crafting tabs. Also a small and obvious tip from me: playing the game helps with getting used to the new system. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tarunio Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 New hud is actually good as a player thats been with this game from 2015 and it makes crafting better than the now old one. 12 minutes ago, Treeomp said: I am willing to quit DST over it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakhnish Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, Treeomp said: Hello. I've seen lots of division in the forum's based on the new crafting system and I am curious. Why is the old crafting menu no longer an option for players who want it. It doesn't seem like much of a good idea to completely remove the old crafting menu when players are willing to quit over it. From the beta launch post: Quote At this time we will not be supporting the old crafting menu as moving away from that approach allows us for more freedom when adding craftable items. For example, the Tackle Receptacle and Terra Firma Tamper were only added because we did not want to add a dozen recipes into the survival and structures tab. With the new approach, this is not an issue. The Tackle Receptacle and Terra Firma Tamper have been changed to research stations, like the Science Machine, where you will be able to prototype the recipes, learning them forever. From reading the responses to the announcement beta post, we’ve noticed that a number of people are feeling scared of the new crafting menu. We understand that a large UI change like this can be scary and often approached with hesitation (we understand how frustrating it is when our development tools, and even our phones, change when a new update comes out) but we would like to encourage everyone to play with the new menu before providing constructive feedback. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, Dr.Medic said: so by that, it means that the new ui is bad, because many will use the old and better one, wich is obviously better, since its actualy faster in use, but we had this talk so many times allready, that there is just no point arguin to yes sayers No, I just said the new UI is better. Its just, from Klei's point of view they want everyone to switch to the new UI, so it makes sense that they dont have an option for it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, LiamAshvinn001 said: No, I just said the new UI is better. Its just, from Klei's point of view they want everyone to switch to the new UI, so it makes sense that they dont have an option for it wich kinda sounds unfair if you ask me, just imagine the floating heads in character select and scoreboard is still a thing you cant change away Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, Dr.Medic said: wich kinda sounds unfair if you ask me, just imagine the floating heads in character select and scoreboard is still a thing you cant change away Welp thats how it is Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellHeater Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Dr.Medic said: wich kinda sounds unfair if you ask me, just imagine the floating heads in character select and scoreboard is still a thing you cant change away you dont use those? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinancoTheBest Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Dr.Medic said: wich kinda sounds unfair if you ask me, just imagine the floating heads in character select and scoreboard is still a thing you cant change away It's more akin to RWYS removing old farms and HL&I changing fish behavior. The forced migration to the new hud is being made because the two interfaces have largely different philosophies and are somewhat incompatible. They'd need to enlarge the old UI to add permanent slots for fishing and turfs to begin with and someone would need to put extra effort everytime bew content is added to keep the old UI acceptably functional. I'm sure the modders will be on it and deliver an old UI reversion mod for those who want to resist change anyway. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Treeomp said: I am willing to quit DST over it Okay, bye. See you next week. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartzBeam Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 As others have already pointed out, the new UI is not limited to visual changes. The crafting system itself has changed and now uses different code to define recipes, tabs (well, filters now), etc. Maintaining the old UI along with the new one would be considerably more time-consuming than just flipping some magical switch. And given that most, if not all, the arguments in favor of the old UI appear to boil down to "they changed it, now it sucks", that just doesn't seem like a good use of their time. 15 minutes ago, Cheggf said: Okay, bye. See you next week. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlogy Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I'm sure there will be visual mods made to make it look like the old UI, but honestly I'm very happy that we're recieving a new and improved one. If you're willing to quit a game over that, that's kind of on you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakerGER Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Wit hthe new one they have the option of having 4 crafting ingredients. So keeping the old one isn't feasible Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannoli Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 13 hours ago, Cheggf said: Okay, bye. See you next week. Oh, the guy who call others "troll"... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePlayer42 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Cheggf said: Okay, bye. See you next week. you dont want to be messing with me 40 minutes ago, Starlogy said: I'm sure there will be visual mods made to make it look like the old UI, but honestly I'm very happy that we're recieving a new and improved one. If you're willing to quit a game over that, that's kind of on you. i know Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Treeomp said: you dont want to be messing with me what does this even mean Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePlayer42 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 march the eleven Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Treeomp said: march the eleven Now I'm even more confused. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePlayer42 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 the last time i will play is march the eleven Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The new UI is great - a lot of people are just scared of change and the fears make them think its worse than it is. This is a pretty common pattern when things change, but as someone who's used the new UI - I can't wait for it to arrive!!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138445-why-is-crafting-system-completely-remover/#findComment-1550907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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