DangerTeddyBear Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I'd like to get it smaller but so far 44x8 is my smallest yet. Does anyone else by chance have even smaller designs that that can handle 10 kg/s? A bonus to condensing Sour gas in airflow tiles means that it's very easy to startup, slowly increasing crude oil input, only thing watch out for is having the Methane pump turned of until a 100ish kg of Methane condenses to avoid pipe breaks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokaeru Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Hi, Nice build ! I don't know if you are theorycrafting in sandbox or if this is planning for an actual base, but if it is the latter you you probably need some more space for gas pumps (14 if I remember from my last sour gas boiler) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1509815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghkbrew Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 And don't forget about the 75 natural gas generators you need to burn the 6.7kg/s of natural gas you'll get. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1509883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 11 hours ago, DangerTeddyBear said: Does anyone else by chance have even smaller designs that that can handle 10 kg/s? Didn't measure total footprints, but these are quite compact and have some very clever things going on in them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1509949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Mandor Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 14 hours ago, DangerTeddyBear said: the Methane pump turned of until a 100ish kg of Methane condenses to avoid pipe breaks. BTW, why you use methane pump? Why not mirror lower part and condense methane on right side, under heat exchanger, without any pump at all? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1509985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isidoro Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Why would you need a 10kg/s boiler btw? 1kg NG feed 11 generators which means 8.8KW without counting the steam box's output to boot. I sometimes wonder on what you ppl spend all this energy on. In my most power hungry station I top 30KW with everything turned on at the same time (which is kinda hard to achieve anyways) o.o' Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1510028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, Isidoro said: Why would you need a 10kg/s boiler btw? 1kg NG feed 11 generators which means 8.8KW without counting the steam box's output to boot. I sometimes wonder on what you ppl spend all this energy on. In my most power hungry station I top 30KW with everything turned on at the same time (which is kinda hard to achieve anyways) o.o' well in base game i to have huge energy usage, but if you have nothing. it not consume nothing either. soo it all depends what you have. lets say you have army off dupes and you want every morning for them the espresso, 1 machine self use already 480w but as you have army you need them more than 1 as you need that you dupes todo other stuff like eat from juicer, take a drink from soda only those 3 already self consume 1080w aka over 1Kw. but that is not all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1510033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isidoro Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 hours ago, gabberworld said: well in base game i to have huge energy usage, but if you have nothing. it not consume nothing either. soo it all depends what you have. lets say you have army off dupes and you want every morning for them the espresso, 1 machine self use already 480w but as you have army you need them more than 1 as you need that you dupes todo other stuff like eat from juicer, take a drink from soda only those 3 already self consume 1080w aka over 1Kw. but that is not all. yes i get it but, i mean: 10kg/s are 90KW! I haven't the slightest of what you can possibly install that requires you that much power, I'm genuinely intrigued and mind you that I'm one of those AT cascades enthusiasts too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1510048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Isidoro said: yes i get it but, i mean: 10kg/s are 90KW! I haven't the slightest of what you can possibly install that requires you that much power, I'm genuinely intrigued and mind you that I'm one of those AT cascades enthusiasts too well 90KW maybe too much but i not played Space out yet for high end at big map. as there no need anymore bunker doors or space scanner maybe i not even need 20KW Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1510056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackhuffer Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Not sure whose design this is, but the shoebox boiler comes to mind: https://imgur.com/a/goVPMa7. It's compact, but doesn't look like it does 10kg/s. Might give you some ideas. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1510473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxii Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 The gold standard in compact 10 kg/s boilers is still by @NurdRage At least as far as I know. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1510962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegroundbelow Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 The only problem is that the OSHA hater doesn't really work since klei patched the temp-swap bug. The spiral boiler from mathmanician and the breather by dahodge also got nerfed or broken by that update. So it's not really fair to compare current design to any of those three. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1511184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 8 hours ago, thegroundbelow said: The only problem is that the OSHA hater doesn't really work since klei patched the temp-swap bug. The spiral boiler from mathmanician and the breather by dahodge also got nerfed or broken by that update. So it's not really fair to compare current design to any of those three. I've been away for a while, so I'm not up to speed on everything - can you point out what part of math's design is no longer functioning? I thought it might be a matter of sweepers reaching through corners, but that doesn't seem to be used actually. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1511277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 5 hours ago, nakomaru said: sweepers reaching through corners Sweepers reaching through corners didn't change. Only dupes can't reach debris through corners (but there are some situations they can build through walls...). Edit: I also couldn't see how math's design is not working Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1511318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sakura_sk Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Take care said: [Game Update] - 419840 Release Date: 07/07/20 - Fix gas temperature swapping heat loss And what bug did that actually fix? I mean... the save file of the boiler works just fine so I can't see what was supposed to not work after that fix Edit: So I think I found the specific bug report but I'm not sure it effects that boiler build Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1511409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mathmanican Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 8:47 PM, nakomaru said: can you point out what part of math's design is no longer functioning? The boiler still works fine. The problematic part is the cooling. There are some almost copies of my original design over on the Discord server that fix the cooling loop issues. It's only a tad bit larger. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1511539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegroundbelow Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 What he said. In the original save file he shared in that thread, the temp of the condensation chamber will gradually climb until it's above the condensation point for sour gas. It takes a while for the problem to become obvious. Glad to hear there's a fixed version Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1511665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipodemos Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 15 hours ago, mathmanican said: The boiler still works fine. The problematic part is the cooling. There are some almost copies of my original design over on the Discord server that fix the cooling loop issues. It's only a tad bit larger. what discord server? could you send me a link? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1511692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, nipodemos said: what discord server? could you send me a link? The link is in the 5th pinned message. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1511728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 i not see that there is possible build very small boiler. you need build that one what actually works you testing yes, but there is different things like how hot is your incoming oil.how you cover that if it not meet for your current test? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1512022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro_L Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 9:29 AM, Isidoro said: Why would you need a 10kg/s boiler btw? 1kg NG feed 11 generators which means 8.8KW without counting the steam box's output to boot. Why not? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1513846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isidoro Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Pedro_L said: Why not? I was curious. I mean: 10kg/s are about 90KW of power, I couldn't see myself using all that power even while splurging it (i.e. not using automation to save it) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1513849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro_L Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Isidoro said: I was curious. I mean: 10kg/s are about 90KW of power, I couldn't see myself using all that power even while splurging it (i.e. not using automation to save it) Megaprojects like replacing the core with solidified hydrogen for example, by that point you are really just finding somemething ludicrous to do Also it is 56KW since 1/3 of the sour gas mass is lost Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135007-small-10kgs-sour-gas-boiler/#findComment-1513853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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