[POLL] What Character rework are you looking forward too?

[reverentsatyr]

At this point, I just want a rework. I don't care who, just gimme a rework.

[I_Disagree]

Everyone but Wendy on the following order:

Wes > Everyone Else > Wilson > Wendy

Or if counting new characters or reworked copy of existing DS character from DLC or something:

Wes > Everyone Else > Wilson > Also Everyone Else > Wendy

[Mike23Ua]

7 minutes ago, I_Disagree said:

Everyone but Wendy on the following order:

Wes > Everyone Else > Wilson > Wendy

Or if counting new characters or reworked copy of existing DS character from DLC or something:

Wes > Everyone Else > Wilson > Also Everyone Else > Wendy

Why so much hate for Wendy? She needs a Rework.. Abigail is very dumb.. she doesn’t attack things chasing you until it’s probably already too late, She lags way off screen behind you, She won’t stand still to let Wendy heal her, and when she DOES choose to attack something it is usually something that isn’t even a threat to Wendy currently and will easily Kill Abigail (Cough, Cough Swamp Tentacles)

That’s Just Abigail though, I expect some new stuff for Wendy as well such as being able to craft Head Garlands and place them on graves to “Mourn” the Dead and gain some Sanity.

Wendy should be able to have Abigail Recruit ghost followers too.. So Ghost mobs will not be hostile towards Wendy as long as Abigail is summoned already.

As a TEAM Perk, Maybe Wendy can sooth an Angry Spirit after someone else digs up their grave by placing Garland on their grave? OR give someone else An Abigail Flower to have Abby follow someone who may be less skilled than the Wendy player around for a bit.

Your quick to toss Wendy out the nearest window when in Reality if we are EVER going to get a Character who can have more interaction with ghosts (and possibly even extending to the point of actually getting a Belongings skin to Reskin Tombstones) it Deserves to be Wendy.

So my vote goes to WENDY > Walani > Anyone Else

After Wendy though.. Walani for sure

Then Webber, Then Maxwell.

[GetRektKids]

Why does everyone want Walani so bad?

[Mike23Ua]

8 minutes ago, GetRektKids said:

Why does everyone want Walani so bad?

Because Warly was added to the game, Warly is a Shipwrecked DLC Character. 

We didn’t even think much about Walani being added to DST until Klei updated the game with an actual explorable sea and Added Warly.

A better question would be, why WOULDN’T you want Walani?

And don’t say “Cause I’d rather have entirely new characters” because that isn’t even an option.

Klei said they were only doing 4 DST exclusive characters, we Already have 3 out of those 4 (they may do more in the future if it’s profitable but so far NOTHING has been announced)

Warly does not count as one of those New DST exclusive character because he is considered as a Rework ported over from Shipwrecked. The same would be the case with Walani, Wilbur, Woodlegs, Wilba, and Wheeler.

[Flip Face]

People who play with Wendy, take a deep breath and have compassion for this poor soul.

Abigail could possess any creature's body, so wendy would have an infinite friendship, with a pig, for example and when he died Abigail would return to her normal form, it would be like a second chance for abigail.

The creature would have its eyes shining white as well as its heads on the stakes.

Imagine taming a beefalo without having to tame it.

Has anyone ever written something like that?

Before anyone else thinks about it I'm going to say what I think about, Wendy being possess by Abigail.

I don't think it would be cool for Wendy to be possess by Abigail, she would lose her identity liberally lol, but not only in mechanics but also as a character.

[GetRektKids]

20 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Because Warly was added to the game, Warly is a Shipwrecked DLC Character. 

We didn’t even think much about Walani being added to DST until Klei updated the game with an actual explorable sea and Added Warly.

A better question would be, why WOULDN’T you want Walani?

And don’t say “Cause I’d rather have entirely new characters” because that isn’t even an option.

Klei said they were only doing 4 DST exclusive characters, we Already have 3 out of those 4 (they may do more in the future if it’s profitable but so far NOTHING has been announced)

Warly does not count as one of those New DST exclusive character because he is considered as a Rework ported over from Shipwrecked. The same would be the case with Walani, Wilbur, Woodlegs, Wilba, and Wheeler.

That still doesn't explain WHY you want Walani. You explained WHY she should be added

Do you have reasons why?

[Mike23Ua]

5 minutes ago, GetRektKids said:

That still doesn't explain WHY you want Walani. You explained WHY she should be added

Do you have reasons why?

My reasons? They’re pretty simple Honestly.

For one Walani can craft a Surfboard, Her Surfboard does not maneuver using the same Mechanics as the Gigantic Boat Cookie.

The THERMAL STONE had no % of how long it could be used before it broke in Single Player Don’t Starve. When they Made DST the Thermal Stone now has a % until it breaks.

In this same exact manor, WALANI should be able to craft Surfboards for OTHER PLAYERS. And they couldn’t just get one from her and she would no long be of any use because as I just stated Walani will need to craft more of them for them.

Walani herself on the other hand I expect would have a Surfboard as a default part of her character, one that maybe is super special and never wears down or breaks? Similar to Woodie’s Axe Lucy, Abigails Flower or the Codex Umbra.

What Do Surfboards Do that Gigantic Boat cookies can’t already do?

Move faster, Travel In Areas too small for Boat Cookies to fit into, and allow players to pick some nearby kelp or something without having to build a fully functional Boat.

[GetRektKids]

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

My reasons? They’re pretty simple Honestly.

For one Walani can craft a Surfboard, Her Surfboard does not maneuver using the same Mechanics as the Gigantic Boat Cookie.

The THERMAL STONE had no % of how long it could be used before it broke in Single Player Don’t Starve. When they Made DST the Thermal Stone now has a % until it breaks.

In this same exact manor, WALANI should be able to craft Surfboards for OTHER PLAYERS. And they couldn’t just get one from her and she would no long be of any use because as I just stated Walani will need to craft more of them for them.

Walani herself on the other hand I expect would have a Surfboard as a default part of her character, one that maybe is super special and never wears down or breaks? Similar to Woodie’s Axe Lucy, Abigails Flower or the Codex Umbra.

What Do Surfboards Do that Gigantic Boat cookies can’t already do?

Move faster, Travel In Areas too small for Boat Cookies to fit into, and allow players to pick some nearby kelp or something without having to build a fully functional Boat.

Not going to make this reply long, but that seems a bit OP? Which is just a word to throw around because of the power 3.....

Anyway solid reasons, but I think the surfboard should be hers, and hers only.

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, GetRektKids said:

Not going to make this reply long, but that seems a bit OP? Which is just a word to throw around because of the power 3.....

Anyway solid reasons, but I think the surfboard should be hers, and hers only.

Then how would she be a TEAM player? Every character that has been released or reworked so far have been given abilities that effect the TEAM.

Take Bernie For Willow as the perfect example, all she has to do is place it Somewhere and it will draw Aggro of Nightmare creatures towards it and away from the insane player.

Wurt and Merm Disguises to allow her friends to enter the Swamp without being punched in the face.

Give a Wormwood a few seeds and he can grow you an instant garden, and Endless living logs.

Wortox can release souls to heal not just himself but anyone around him.

[Maxposting]

6 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Then how would she be a TEAM player? Every character that has been released or reworked so far have been given abilities that effect the TEAM.

Simple answer: she would not be a team player.^{walani sucks stop trying to get her into dst she is bad *smashes table* stop ple ase *smashes table again*}

[Mike23Ua]

1 minute ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

Simple answer: she would not be a team player.^{walani sucks stop trying to get her into dst she is bad *smashes table* stop ple ase *smashes table again*}

I could say that Warly sucks for being the only character with such an extreme consequence on what he chooses to eat.

or that Wheeler sucks just because she has a gun and a more mobility with her Dodge move making her the most OP Thing since the Now Non-Existent Warbucks..

But you don’t see me going into other peoples threads saying they can’t have Her.

[Karitha]

On 01.02.2020 at 12:03 AM, NSAiswatchingus said:

I know Wendy probably needs it the most, but I'm excited for a Maxwell rework. I honestly think he's fine as is, but you know he's gonna get some cool new tricks when it happens. 

Right! I think with last woodie update maxwell just became a piece of trash. Woodie is better collector and maxwell's only possitive skill became sanity. Sanity is not big problem if you are not Wickerbottom with bad skills. Wicker can live with green mushroom first day and candy next days.

[Axelocke]

Wendy makes a lot of sense, she's got many many players in public servers, yet unless you know how some really niche strategies work, she'll probably be a Wes without the hunger drain/bad stats with a follower that harms themselves more than Wendy talks about it. 

 

[Lammarr]

 

9 minutes ago, Slagger said:

Right! I think with last woodie update maxwell just became a piece of trash. Woodie is better collector and maxwell's only possitive skill became sanity. Sanity is not big problem if you are not Wickerbottom with bad skills. Wicker can live with green mushroom first day and candy next days.

Maxwell is a way faster and better resource collector and his shadow duelists gives him a pretty nice dps increase.The main difference between Maxwell and Woodie is that the former requires way more skill to use at his maximum potential.

[Karitha]

Just now, Lammarr said:

 

Maxwell is a way faster and better resource collector and his 2 shadow duelists makes you do around 33% more dps.The main difference between Maxwell and Woodie is that the former requires way more skill to use at his maximum potential.

Maxwell is slightly faster, yeah but his health penalty is big problem. But when we look for Woodie, he can dodge and clear spiders, he can travel island in seconds and he can collect stones and woods without any items. Also when collecting items, you don't need to be worried about darkness and coldness. Just take a meatball and turn wereform, than finish your job and eat meatball thats all.

[Mike23Ua]

Comparing Reworked characters to Not Yet Reworked Characters.. hah yeah that works.

[Lammarr]

10 minutes ago, Slagger said:

Maxwell is slightly faster, yeah but his health penalty is big problem. But when we look for Woodie, he can dodge and clear spiders, he can travel island in seconds and he can collect stones and woods without any items. Also when collecting items, you don't need to be worried about darkness and coldness. Just take a meatball and turn wereform, than finish your job and eat meatball thats all.

Maxwell's health penalty only makes him harder to play,it doesn't waste time due to the fact that he still requires the same amount of health items as Wilson.

Anyone can dodge and clear spiders,Woodie is just faster,but there's way better food sources than spiders(Bunnymen/Pig farms for example) and silk is only used for one-investment items or useless sanity items.

How's collecting stone and wood without any items an advantge? You never run out of simple tools made out of flint and twigs,right?

Woodie's wereforms aren't immune to cold,they're just pretty resistant,also,they can't use speed boost items like magi amulets and walking canes,making them way slower than normal characters with those items.

[Axe_]

47 minutes ago, Lammarr said:

Anyone can dodge and clear spiders,Woodie is just faster,but there's way better food sources than spiders(Bunnymen/Pig farms for example) and silk is only used for one-investment items or useless sanity items.

Spleumonkey farms are pretty good too, provide beard hair, and one of the most bountiful nightmare fuel farms and require less setup than a tentacle farm with Wickerbottom. Only time this isn't viable is on very bad worldgen with like 3 monkey spawns.

 

47 minutes ago, Lammarr said:

Woodie's wereforms aren't immune to cold,they're just pretty resistant,also,they can't use speed boost items like magi amulets and walking canes,making them way slower than normal characters with those items.

Characters that run faster than goose include mighty wolfgang with cane, charged wx, and wormwood to my knowledge atm. All other characters utilizing mag are having to fuel the thing which will require more time standing in one place farming nightmare fuel than the amount of time it cut off your trip (unless you are using a more time efficient nightmare fuel farm like I listed above). Also you sacrifice your backpack slot to use the mag, the goose doesn't. You move more resources in a quicker time for cheaper. Goose might not be as good as mighty wolfgang with cane or charged wx, but he's better than the mag. For me at least. The only thing the mag has over goose is it can be quick toggled and doesn't inhibit harvesting or picking which is nice for QOL, but isn't necessary when you are playing optimally.

As for Maxwell vs Woodie, Woodie just has a hand in multiple things. Maxwell can outchop Woodie and outmine Woodie because he can pick up while his minions chop and mine, it's literally like having multiple ppl do a job. Also on the topic of optimal resource gathering, COUGH, COUGH stalker or bearger. 

Also I've seen Maxwell's minions get killed a lot in combat, maybe they're bad maxwells.

Also is Maxwell's de-buff really that hard to deal with? It's just less total health, not take more damage. Everyone benefits from not getting hit, not just him. It takes the same amount of healing to heal a smacked Maxwell as it does a smacked fully upgraded WX. I just don't get why ppl say he's that hard, just wear a football helmet or something. Maybe you can enlighten me into the hardships of Maxwell mains.

[Lammarr]

3 hours ago, WoodieMain45684 said:

Also I've seen Maxwell's minions get killed a lot in combat, maybe they're bad maxwells.

Also is Maxwell's de-buff really that hard to deal with? It's just less total health, not take more damage. Everyone benefits from not getting hit, not just him. It takes the same amount of healing to wipe away a smacked Maxwell as it does a smacked fully upgraded WX. I just don't get why ppl say he's that hard, just wear a football helmet or something.

Maybe you can enlighten me into the hardships of Maxwell mains.

Yes,i would say so,Maxwell's duelists aren't so simple to use in combat due to the fact that creatures can target them over you,but this can be solved by being the last target to hit when kiting enemies. Duelists are pretty worth ,'cause they give you around 33% total dps increase.

When i said that he's only harder to play my point was that his disavantage doesn't waste time,i also don't really get how people think he's that hard to survive with,the worst part of his disavantage is getting stunlocked to death more easily,but that's something pretty easy to avoid. 

 

3 hours ago, WoodieMain45684 said:

Also on the topic of optimal resource gathering, COUGH, COUGH stalker or bearger. 

Bearger ain't that optimal for the fact that he can only be used in 2 seasons and that you can't pick up logs/rocks while he's being used,making Maxwell slightly faster than him in most cases,also,Treeguards don't slow Maxwell down.

Stalker is pretty good,i must admit,but it gets way better when paired with Maxwell and his shadow diggers.

[meepmoop]

On 2/6/2020 at 8:27 PM, Mike23Ua said:

And don’t say “Cause I’d rather have entirely new characters” because that isn’t even an option.

...

Warly does not count as one of those New DST exclusive ...

The same would be the case with Walani...

I think this is the thing you twist a bit. wormwood also was a port from hamlet and he still counts as one of the 4 new DST characters.

[Mike23Ua]

Just now, meepmoop said:

I think this is the thing you twist a bit. wormwood also was a port from hamlet and he still counts as one of the 4 new DST characters.

Honestly I’m just counting Winona in place of Wormwood, She is a DST exclusive. 

[I_Disagree]

On 2/6/2020 at 9:47 AM, Mike23Ua said:

Why so much hate for Wendy?

@I_Disagreewith this statement. If anything, it is how I show my affection toward her and her well being. I merely try to defend her from the Klei's rework, for I find those rework distasteful.

 

4 hours ago, Axelocke said:

Wendy makes a lot of sense, she's got many many players in public servers..

 

@I_Disagree. From my experience in playing on public servers, Wigfrid seems to dominate the server's population.

[Canis]

Y'all talkin about Walani in here?

 

Here are my thoughts on Walani and why she's perfect for DST atm:

-She, as a character, is inherently based around the water, and water exploration, which just so happens to also be the focus on RoT. Having a character that can reliably and consistently interact with the new content would be great, as it would make some oddities previously optional (that you have to fork up a good amount of time to prep for) more accessible, such salt and other ocean spoils that are yet to be added. That could be Walani's entire thing; She is the character to pick if you want to focus on exploring or just being near the water often, which again is the focus of RoT. In regards to the question on if others would be able to use surfboards, maybe so but only at like 50% speed of Walani, to encourage it for bridge-building and stuff, more so than actual surfing/sailing. The server can simply leave that task to Walani, and reap the spoils that she brings back home. In the case of this being OP, Woodie can get to the lunar island on day 1 pretty consistently, while also having other abilities.

I have tried coming up with ideas for Walani before, but as hard as I try, it's just hard to come up with anything higher than barebones until RoT has more content, so realistically only Klei could come up with fun perks for her at the moment.

-I want Walani because she has the best personality out of the entire DS/T cast and my DMs are open for us to participate in fisticuffs over this argument.

Im down to go back and forth on this.

[-Nick-]

What Wendy rework? all i see is a child safe yard