DarkPulse91 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Rinkusan said: Oh ok gotcha its the same as the Day/Dusk/Night Lures in their non-respective times of day. Which is why you may still catch a fish even when using those lures at the wrong times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroely Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Rinkusan said: Does having a "x0 multiplier in normal weather" imply that the lure straight-up cannot catch fish whatsoever in normal weather? 2 hours ago, DarkPulse91 said: its the lure's stats that are multiplied by 0, so it will basically be like you dont have a lure. Which is a 10% lure attraction. but all fish have a x0.25 attraction to no lure, so its really 2.5% So yes it can still catch fish, its just a very low chance per nibble The stats from the lure are not added onto the base hook's, they replace it: That means that a snow day hook will NOT catch ANY fish outside of snowy weather, a rainy day hook will NOT catch ANY fish outside rainy weather, and a heavy weighted lure will NOT catch ANY fish that are too light. 2 hours ago, DarkPulse91 said: its the same as the Day/Dusk/Night Lures in their non-respective times of day. Which is why you may still catch a fish even when using those lures at the wrong times. It's not like that: The time-of-day baits only get a x0.3 multiplier on their charm, while the weather baits get a x0 multiplier, completely removing their effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPulse91 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 12 hours ago, Electroely said: The stats from the lure are not added onto the base hook's, they replace it: That means that a snow day hook will NOT catch ANY fish outside of snowy weather, a rainy day hook will NOT catch ANY fish outside rainy weather, and a heavy weighted lure will NOT catch ANY fish that are too light. It's not like that: The time-of-day baits only get a x0.3 multiplier on their charm, while the weather baits get a x0 multiplier, completely removing their effect. Hmm interesting, I have been able to catch a fish before with the rainy lure tho when i still had it equipped on accident. so thats why i assumed it was like the daytime lures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 13 hours ago, Electroely said: The stats from the lure are not added onto the base hook's, they replace it: That means that a snow day hook will NOT catch ANY fish outside of snowy weather, a rainy day hook will NOT catch ANY fish outside rainy weather, and a heavy weighted lure will NOT catch ANY fish that are too light. What is the perfect lure to catch heavy fish for Pearl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPulse91 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Decided to redesign my chart to make it easier to read! On top of this, I added the newest fish added in the Troubled Waters beta! Also added a PDF version if the compression is too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Can i advertise my guide for fishing in here instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelCase Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I did something similar but heavily compressed since I wasn't too interested in min/maxing, The lures also tend to be very similar in performance when you get top tier and there are clear winners for floats. If anyone wants sauce (which has a complete recipe cheat-sheet on page1 - minus new leafy), lemme know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najaf Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 What a great work Do you have other spreadsheets like that? I like to print them and put on a mini board near my notebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryde Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Fine work. I'd like to know how to keep tabs so I could return to this whenever I need as well as keep up with any updates. So the reel bonus displayed below could either be positive or negative. And if I have to guess, for rot, seeds, and berries it's better to leave your bait idle than reel it in to get a nibble? What about different water types? Are they indicated by the sea colour or more by the density of rocks in the area? What's the exact difference between swell and rough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruhmoment23 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 3:23 PM, Ryde said: What about different water types? Are they indicated by the sea colour or more by the density of rocks in the area? What's the exact difference between swell and rough? Diffrent water types usually fall into the factors you mentioned, that being shifting water color into darker version aswell as amount of sea stacks increasing depending on the layer you are currently in. Exact diffrence between swell and rough are fish that are in those areas aswell as color, swell ocean has a darker green color while rough has a green/blue, with rough ocean having a lot tighter placed sea stacks that are a lot harder to pass between them with a boat. Fish found in the swell layer of the ocean are : Runty Guppy, Bitty Baitfish, Mudfish, Deep Bass, Black Catfish and Corn Cod. In rough layer, you'll usually encounter these : Bitty Baitfish, Deep Bass, Black Catfish, Corn Cod and Dandy Lionfish. Of course its a lot harder to tell which is which if you're color blind or have somekind of issue with your sight, but nontheless, i hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelCase Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Corazon said: What a great work Do you have other spreadsheets like that? I like to print them and put on a mini board near my notebook. I'm going to assume by "spreasheet" you're referring to me and not OP. This is the only cheatsheet I use because it's the only set of data that I didn't want to commit to memory. You're welcome to the excel source file (and explanation of my personal notations) but it will need updating for the beta content and it is in the newer .xlsx format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelCase Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Ryde said: What about different water types? Are they indicated by the sea colour or more by the density of rocks in the area? What's the exact difference between swell and rough? Guy above me covered this pretty comprehensively, but just to add that I tend to just look at the waves since they can be seen in all lighting conditions and season filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPulse91 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Ryde said: So the reel bonus displayed below could either be positive or negative. And if I have to guess, for rot, seeds, and berries it's better to leave your bait idle than reel it in to get a nibble? Yeah thats basically the idea. After reeling with the seeds/berries/rot. your lure basically has an attraction of 0, and fish wont be interested in it. 4 hours ago, Ryde said: I'd like to know how to keep tabs so I could return to this whenever I need as well as keep up with any updates There is a follow button near the top right of the page. Or you can book mark this post so you can return to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I uh have noticed a slight typo in the chart. It's called Deep Bass and not Deep Base. Correct me if I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyGames Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 This is so excellent, thank you! Is it possible to get it at an even higher resolution? I'm seeing it at 96dpi. If you could boost that up to 150 or even 300 I think it would look a lot cleaner when zoomed in. Let me know if you do it. I'll definitely share this on my Discord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, JazzyGames said: This is so excellent, thank you! Is it possible to get it at an even higher resolution? I'm seeing it at 96dpi. If you could boost that up to 150 or even 300 I think it would look a lot cleaner when zoomed in. Let me know if you do it. I'll definitely share this on my Discord! Yeah, it reminds me of the chart you did of the new recipes, both Warly's and normal ones, when he came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPulse91 Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, JazzyGames said: Is it possible to get it at an even higher resolution? sadly it isnt as a normal image. its too large. But the PDF version barely has any compression. so thats why i recommend using that. The highest resolution i can get it as a normal image is https://s3.amazonaws.com/kleiforums/monthly_2020_07/DarkPulsesFishingChart8.4.png.d75906e7828143a30403e02eb7017bb0.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyGames Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Yeah looks like this one is 96dpi as well. If you're using Acrobat Pro you can usually consolidate file size just by exporting a pdf with no layers. Wish I knew more about Acrobat in general, but I use mainly Photoshop for my charts. I hear inDesign works really well also. Thanks again for the great chart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPulse91 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 6:23 AM, Ryde said: What about different water types? Are they indicated by the sea colour or more by the density of rocks in the area? What's the exact difference between swell and rough? I have some good examples of how the water of each type looks. Here is the first example. From left to right, it shows Shore > Swell > Rough. basically, each type is darker from the last.Sadly, This is during the day, I have had it during seasons like winter at dusk where I couldnt tell the difference between the colors.Thankfully Dangerous waters are much easier to spot. Being very dark and often having broken boat pieces spawn in them when loaded for the first time. They are usually very small compared to the other types of seaBut do keep in mind that just because there are boat fragments, doesn't mean that it is dangerous water. As boat pieces can spawn anywhere. Thats why I recommend not hammering these boat fragments as to easily tell it is Dangerous waters And i'll just say this in this post 23 hours ago, JazzyGames said: If you're using Acrobat Pro you can usually consolidate file size just by exporting a pdf with no layers. Wish I knew more about Acrobat in general, but I use mainly Photoshop for my charts. Sadly Im actually using Google Drawings to make these charts. So I dont have much freedom with how they get saved or exported. But i do use Pixlr for any quick images i need to photoshop for the chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPulse91 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 Big thanks to @GLERMZ and Klei for sharing this out on twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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