EnergeticSecret Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 So i saw a reply somewhere in some oni forum, i think it was this forum, about submerging electrolyzer in liquid a few weeks ago but too bad i can't find that reply again. the idea is similar to infinite gas chamber, submerged electrolyzer won't get overpressured. and yes, this setup also able to store infinite gas. after tinkering for a while i find that the gas actually spawned on top left corner tile of electrolyzer. so you only need to provide two tiles beside it to store produced H and O2 and also those two tiles can store infinite gas. the setup needs to be initially vacuum and since H is lighter it will always fill the top tile. the electrolyzer is submerged in 10kg pwater and 10kg water. that is the most basic setup and obviously it's not survival friendly so you can upgrade it to something like this: just add some room for gas pumps and add an airflow tile to prevent liquid from spilling. the electrolyzer is submerged in 200kg of pwater and 200kg of water which is perfect for auto-bottling. obviously you can use other types of liquid but i think water and pwater are the easiest. you need 2 different types of liquid to prevent electrolyzer from drowning. or you can just store produced O2 inside your base. because without cooling system or atmo sensor what could possibly go wrong right? and finally a proper O2 production setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, EnergeticSecret said: i think it was this forum, about submerging electrolyzer in liquid a few weeks ago but too bad i can't find that reply again. I guess you mean this reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnergeticSecret Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: I guess you mean this reply. it wasn't a bug report tho. i'm pretty sure it was a reply in a topic about electrolyzer setup and it has a picture. but thanks for putting it out, i find more information in it especially "unlikely to be resolved" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonium Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 10 hours ago, EnergeticSecret said: So i saw a reply somewhere in some oni forum, i think it was this forum, about submerging electrolyzer in liquid a few weeks ago but too bad i can't find that reply again. the idea is similar to infinite gas chamber, submerged electrolyzer won't get overpressured. and yes, this setup also able to store infinite gas. after tinkering for a while i find that the gas actually spawned on top left corner tile of electrolyzer. so you only need to provide two tiles beside it to store produced H and O2 and also those two tiles can store infinite gas. the setup needs to be initially vacuum and since H is lighter it will always fill the top tile. the electrolyzer is submerged in 10kg pwater and 10kg water. that is the most basic setup and obviously it's not survival friendly so you can upgrade it to something like this: just add some room for gas pumps and add an airflow tile to prevent liquid from spilling. the electrolyzer is submerged in 200kg of pwater and 200kg of water which is perfect for auto-bottling. obviously you can use other types of liquid but i think water and pwater are the easiest. you need 2 different types of liquid to prevent electrolyzer from drowning. or you can just store produced O2 inside your base. because without cooling system or atmo sensor what could possibly go wrong right? and finally a proper O2 production setup. This is cool but you use sandbox mode no ? Do the same in reality will be very hard i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnergeticSecret Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, harmonium said: This is cool but you use sandbox mode no ? Do the same in reality will be very hard i guess. i already did. the only change i need is when you pour both liquid it will separate each other at the bottom of electrolyzer, so you need to spread the liquid. the easiest way is dropping a tiny amount of said liquid in the tile that doesnt contain it. does it make any sense? i dont know, you will know when you try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishoutofwater Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 or like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Actually it (used to be at least) quite easy to setup. You just have to do it in stages. Build the basic box and electrolyzer, then use a bottle emptier to put in a small amount of polluted and clean water. The hardest part really was making sure that the air tile on the side always got the O2 into it first, otherwise it could end up working in reverse (H2 coming out the side). The "flooded electrolyzer" exploit has been known about for a very long time. I haven't used it in quite a while, so I'm not sure of current state, but I seem to remember a slight change in the electrolyzer that made it a bit harder to get setup cleanly (like the water doesn't want to stay put or something, don't really remember). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnergeticSecret Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Soulwind said: Actually it (used to be at least) quite easy to setup. You just have to do it in stages. Build the basic box and electrolyzer, then use a bottle emptier to put in a small amount of polluted and clean water. The hardest part really was making sure that the air tile on the side always got the O2 into it first, otherwise it could end up working in reverse (H2 coming out the side). The "flooded electrolyzer" exploit has been known about for a very long time. I haven't used it in quite a while, so I'm not sure of current state, but I seem to remember a slight change in the electrolyzer that made it a bit harder to get setup cleanly (like the water doesn't want to stay put or something, don't really remember). if you vacuum the setup beforehand H always goes up and O2 goes to the side 9 hours ago, fishoutofwater said: or like this that is really nice and compact. gonna make it that way next time. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_kirya Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Thanks for the idea.The result is my SPOM-setup below. Spoiler It's built in survival mode without debug and takes two standard floors. Gen room is being chilled by produced gasses. Only copper, iron and magmatic rock are used. Thermosensor above the watercooler is used to set O2 temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
be1tran Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 tried this build in my base legit built it without debug or sandbox and for some reason the hydrogen goes into the bottom chamber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnergeticSecret Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:16 PM, be1tran said: tried this build in my base legit built it without debug or sandbox and for some reason the hydrogen goes into the bottom chamber did you vacuum the setup beforehand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:16 AM, be1tran said: tried this build in my base legit built it without debug or sandbox and for some reason the hydrogen goes into the bottom chamber This was referenced above. On 1/11/2019 at 9:44 PM, Soulwind said: The hardest part really was making sure that the air tile on the side always got the O2 into it first, otherwise it could end up working in reverse (H2 coming out the side). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 To ensure hydrogen and oxygen goes the way you want to just prime it so there's already the desired gas in the right chamber. Only needs a tiny bit of gas as anything above 1g/tile will block the gas from going the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Oh you kids with your fresh ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishoutofwater Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 6:35 AM, Grimgaw said: Oh you kids with your fresh ideas. I try the older build, the liquid in the left corner breaking on and off the wall. so maybe stay with the kids new ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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