JukedByLife Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Hey everyone, remember that exploit using automation to push a tepidizer past the allowed temp?. Well, now we have thermium. so yeah. Please be advised this exploit can trivialize parts of the game essentially sucking the fun right out of it. This is a fun sucker, you have been warned. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMaggie Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 You can create things from refined metal now so It's not exploit It's feature! But wait where's liquid ?? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technoincubus Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 How can you push tapidizer with automation? Because it is super dumb that dupes with with lazers, cloning and space flight techs cannot BOIL WATER AND MAKE A STEAM! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Fox Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Technoincubus said: How can you push tapidizer with automation? Because it is super dumb that dupes with with lazers, cloning and space flight techs cannot BOIL WATER AND MAKE A STEAM! By simply pulsing the tepidizer on and off for a few seconds. It doesn't realize that it isn't submerged until it's been on for about 2-3 seconds. Either that, or do something like this. That bottom water tile needs to be 500KGs and under 85C. That tiny amount of oil is creating a liquid-lock which is keeping the tile above the water a vacuum. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technoincubus Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Well, at least that would be more logical than a space society unable to heat up a machinery up to 100C or reach tech marvel of a kettle Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JukedByLife Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, SackMaggie said: You can create things from refined metal now so It's not exploit It's feature! But wait where's liquid ?? You don't need liquid when its connected to a pulse clock and it's an exploit because otherwise, you wouldn't need to automate it to increase the temp. 59 minutes ago, Technoincubus said: How can you push tapidizer with automation? Because it is super dumb that dupes with with lazers, cloning and space flight techs cannot BOIL WATER AND MAKE A STEAM! Flying Fox answered this perfectly. 29 minutes ago, Technoincubus said: Well, at least that would be more logical than a space society unable to heat up a machinery up to 100C or reach tech marvel of a kettle I think the important thing to remember is that this is a game and the enjoyment comes from overcoming the challenges provided (at least for me it does). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Why are you not just using a aquatuner + super coolant ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JukedByLife Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 hours ago, SkunkMaster said: Why are you not just using a aquatuner + super coolant ? I'm not familiar with that method but I don't plan on using this as it would make the game less enjoyable for me. I was just sharing the info for anyone who was interested. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 so you are not going to use the new materials offered to us in the rocketry upgrade? What's next, you refuse to use plastic cause it makes the game less enjoyable for you? - or how about you skip geysers, they weren't part of the game either for a very long time.. geysers and volcanos and what have you... ? okay bro, interesting view on the game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Late game meaterials are already super hard to get en masse so i don`t see a problem with them pretty much breaking the game when you manage to get them. It`s the end of the game. What would you use them for? You`ll need like 500 cycles to get that kind of setup running. That`s plenty of time to play a fun game. As for the temptizer why can`t it just have a temp slider based on it`s overheat temperature. Then just fix the bug with it actiuvating for 1s by it checking if it`s in water all the time, not just when active. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 honestly there is no reason to abuse the tepedizer, other then that it's more energy efficient, or you find it fun to build. The logic behind such flip-flop can cause lag, and you're able to translate the heat from the tepedizer into much higher temperatures using aquatuners made out of Thermium and running super coolant. so i don't see the point really in this nag-post. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JukedByLife Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sasza22 said: Late game meaterials are already super hard to get en masse so i don`t see a problem with them pretty much breaking the game when you manage to get them. It`s the end of the game. What would you use them for? You`ll need like 500 cycles to get that kind of setup running. That`s plenty of time to play a fun game. As for the temptizer why can`t it just have a temp slider based on it`s overheat temperature. Then just fix the bug with it actiuvating for 1s by it checking if it`s in water all the time, not just when active. That's true that the materials are not easily obtained but "end of the game" is a matter of perspective, and I have nothing against using the materials (I'm quite happy they were added). And yes fixing the tepidizer would be great. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, Sasza22 said: As for the temptizer why can`t it just have a temp slider based on it`s overheat temperature. Then just fix the bug with it actiuvating for 1s by it checking if it`s in water all the time, not just when active. Eurgh. Do you know how laggy that'd be if it's checking the surrounding area every tick? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Yunru said: Eurgh. Do you know how laggy that'd be if it's checking the surrounding area every tick? Would it be more laggy than a water pump? If that`s the problem then make it check once per second but not activate before it checks. Now it activates first and the checks if it actually should. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejams Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Yunru said: Eurgh. Do you know how laggy that'd be if it's checking the surrounding area every tick? You really underestimate how much checking and math already goes on every tick, doing something like that would be pretty trivial. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, thejams said: You really underestimate how much checking and math already goes on every tick, doing something like that would be pretty trivial. Yeah, and notice how laggy it is at the moment? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, Yunru said: Yeah, and notice how laggy it is at the moment? I think what @thejams was trying to say is that it wouldn't increase lagg all that much, since checking a variable a few tiles around a fixed tile is very simple and fast to compute, especially since tepidizers aren't built en masse. At a quick glance it looks like it is super trivial and has only constant growth (per tepidizer) as opposed to for example pathing. In the other hand we don't really know the reason for this delayed/sporadic check. It could actually be that the information isn't updated that frequently or something like that. There could be all sorts of optimizations and caching going on. Or maybe there is some sort of sync issue since it smells slightly of 'cheap and dirty'. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejams Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Yunru said: Yeah, and notice how laggy it is at the moment? 2 hours ago, Yunru said: It's the ONI Drinking Game! Take a drink every time you see a repeated suggestion! Take a drink every time you see someone complain about a testing build not being finished! Try not to die! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, thejams said: Sorry, it's out of testing now. Feel free to take a drink anyway Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 11 hours ago, JukedByLife said: Hey everyone, remember that exploit using automation to push a tepidizer past the allowed temp?. Well, now we have thermium. so yeah. Please be advised this exploit can trivialize parts of the game essentially sucking the fun right out of it. This is a fun sucker, you have been warned. Having thermium is kinda strong claim, isn't it. I am cycle 760 and yet to visit any planet. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejams Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Yunru said: Sorry, it's out of testing now. Feel free to take a drink anyway Your understanding of early access makes the irony even worse...especially considering the goal of the next milestone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, thejams said: Your understanding of early access makes the irony even worse...especially considering the goal of the next milestone. It's still early access yes, but I specified the testing branch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JukedByLife Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 58 minutes ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: Having thermium is kinda strong claim, isn't it. I am cycle 760 and yet to visit any planet. Thermium was just an example. You could make this out of steel and run a turbine creating more energy than your using on the tepedizer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I didn’t see the option to make stuff out of refined metal. Or is it only specific refined metals not including refined gold/copper? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Fox Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, 0xFADE said: I didn’t see the option to make stuff out of refined metal. Or is it only specific refined metals not including refined gold/copper? The special refined metals of Steel, Niobium, and Thermium. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97303-tepidizers-are-super-broken-now/#findComment-1101968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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