Oni Noob Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Anyone have a blueprint for electrolyzer setup. I just want a simple but efficient one. Doesnt need to be self-sustaining, I just want to see what the most effecient way to built that maximize the oxygen output Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If your only goal is raw O2 output, then build a small to medium room, with 2 Gas Pumps per Electrolyzer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 if you want oxygen out high maybe 2pump under electrolyzer one pump top of the electrolyzer. But 1 electrolyzer - 2 pump is fine and good (don't forget atmosensor) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 This is what I use with the AETN on my maps. Works pretty well. Creates enough O2 for 12 or so dupes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Oni Noob said: I just want to see what the most effecient way to built that maximize the oxygen output All electrolyzers produce 888 g of oxygen per 1000g of water and 120 J of power. Exactly. No setup can improve that and most setups won't make it any worse. Trying to maximize output of single electrolyzer and avoiding its 'over pressure' state is pointless, you end up building complex machine that wastes power on keeping the electrolyzer in low pressure where you can achieve the same effect safely and with no extra power spent by building two electrolyzers. A setup that does not care about cooling the oxygen but is fairly efficient (500 g/s of oxygen per cell, free separation of hydrogen from oxygen, build as many cells you want; there are two cells in the picture): Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I do agree with what Kasuha says, I run 4/8 Electrolyzers, they are self powering, provide excess power, and my base is always between 1500/1800g of oxygen. Admittedly I let the oxygen flow freely and only pump the hydrogen, My design is similar to the one Kasuha posted but cut the bottom part off, have the atmo sensor at 500g and away it goes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I use mechanical filters to make them 100% self powering. I prime mech filters with powered filters and generally speaking jump start a system with a hamster wheel. Units are modular and take up a minimalized foot print. Sections of filter piping are isolated with bridgework to prevent packet confusion. Electrolizer uptime is dependent on gas drain speed, as such overflows must be built into the system to prevent backups. This system is capable of 99.9994% electrolizer uptime assuming one unit built with 12+ dupes. Avg is ~9 dupes per unit. I have tried more than 40 variations in pipeworks this is the single most efficient arrangement found for the space consumed. (that 0.0005 can be obtained by using a second O2 mech filter for the upper pump...... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Kabrute said: I use mechanical filters to make them 100% self powering. I prime mech filters with powered filters and generally speaking jump start a system with a hamster wheel. Units are modular and take up a minimalized foot print. Sections of filter piping are isolated with bridgework to prevent packet confusion. Electrolizer uptime is dependent on gas drain speed, as such overflows must be built into the system to prevent backups. This system is capable of 99.9994% electrolizer uptime assuming one unit built with 12+ dupes. Avg is ~9 dupes per unit. I have tried more than 40 variations in pipeworks this is the single most efficient arrangement found for the space consumed. (that 0.0005 can be obtained by using a second O2 mech filter for the upper pump...... With this setup its can support 9 dupes already? Wow that impressive Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariilyn Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Kabrute said: ^ The piping in this setup looks kind of confusing and intimidating at first glance. I've got myself to learn how to build the mechanical filter yesterday and ended up upgrading the simple SPOM system I've been using with the compact version of the mechanical filter that you posted. (I'm using this thing everywhere now, thanks!) Electrolyser efficiency seems to be "only" around 99,98 % BUT it is easier to build from memory and more easily stackable. The gas pump at the bottom doesn't need a filter, plus a regular filter can be built temporarily in the upper right corner over the clock sensor before transitioning to a mechanical filter (like if someone doesn't have a readily available pocket of hydrogen to prime the system or is just lazy). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 @Kabrute where did you place your atmo sensors cannot see it on your setup Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispershade Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 @Kasuha 's example is also self powering. Even with the oxygen pumps. The filtering comes from the one tile gap design between the top pump and the electrolyzer. Once you run that top area clean of nothing by hydrogen, you're good to go. The biggest risk with the design is if you're pumping the hydrogen into smart battery linked hydrogen generator, it can stall out because you're not consuming enough hydrogen to keep it from eventually overpressuring. So you want to make sure you're burning the hydrogen your not planning to store for other purposes. Building them in pairs lets you fill your oxygen pipe with 1kg oxygen / sec for maximum flow. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 the only automation is from the battery to the gene Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I like kabrute's setup, but I don't really know how to make it the idea is to make 2 mechanical gas filters or loops, 1 electrolyzer + 2 pumps; and the problem is making 2 mechanical gas filters is too much of a hassle for me. this one is a good alternative: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Kabrute, could you post a save file where you've got those mechanical filters setup and working? I'm really bad at using screenshots to trace this stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Antigravity System.sav Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I like open air setups, but you have to plant wheezies on all the airflow paths until you get some kind of tech to pipe cold in. You also have to build more electrolyzers than you normally would, and spread them around your base, because you'll get poor uptime. Natural circulation leaves the pressure a bit high at the electrolyzer. But the fact that there are no pumps for o2 makes this arrangement very power efficient. Pump on the bottom feeds O2 to exosuit docks. I leave the deoxidizers on all the time just to save every last possible scrap of water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89724-electorlyser-setup/#findComment-1025902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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