Muggins Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Before the occupational upgrade I could find upwards of 15 Wheezeworts without fully exploring the map. My current fully explored map has yielded only 7. Question: how many Wheezeworts does your current map have? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 like 20 (i know i am lucky) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 try this, 1814392082 too much wheez single biome almost 25, other biome had 10 or 15 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 When they shrunk the map size, I find the ice biomes are now very small; like 12-15 tiles in diameter small at the edge of the now smaller map. All those small ice biomes often have zero weeze. You now might have one large ice biome which may or may not have weeze. As a result, I find there are >50% less weeze now. Often I end up around 10.(vs old 20-25) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Ok so seems like I was particularly unlucky then. On the plus side it has forced me out of my comfort zone and it’s actually the first time I’ve sought after and used the anti-entropy-nullifier thingys - which are awesome by the way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 yeah, ice biome become smaller than before FEELSBADMAN Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermack Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I think each world can have 3 aetn now since rancher update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyNet_65 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I also noticed that on all my maps. Because entombed Wheezewort seeds don't spawn anymore. I liked searching them a lot. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I started a fresh map and have 7 in view, none used so far. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, SkyNet_65 said: I also noticed that on all my maps. Because entombed Wheezewort seeds don't spawn anymore. I liked searching them a lot. Samesies! Well I guess I was digging up all the “cracked blocks” in the ice biomes for nothing then. 58 minutes ago, Oozinator said: I started a fresh map and have 7 in view, none used so far. Maybe you’ve already found all there is to find and you’ll be stuck with 7 like me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, six_demon_bag said: Maybe you’ve already found all there is to find and you’ll be stuck with 7 like me. Wheezies are nice to have, but no must for me. This time i used only natural grown food and trapped lightbugs to illuminate the bristles. Needed only one lamp at one place. Running with four dupes, could add more, but they are so quick and still sometimes idle. One coalgen is enough so far, running first aquatuner now. My new superdupe Ashkan is supporting my points and who could know it better then a superdupe? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Oozinator said: trapped lightbugs to illuminate the bristles wild shine bugs will try to eat the bristles before your dupes can pick them up Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Neotuck said: wild shine bugs will try to eat the bristles before your dupes can pick them up That's why i limited their area of motion a bit (survival) ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltirn Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Oozinator said: Wheezies are nice to have, but no must for me. This time i used only natural grown food and trapped lightbugs to illuminate the bristles. Needed only one lamp at one place. Running with four dupes, could add more, but they are so quick and still sometimes idle. One coalgen is enough so far, running first aquatuner now. Without worts your only source of cooling is the AETN. As a result your colony is quite likely to be doomed to overheat and die eventually. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountygiver Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 43 minutes ago, Giltirn said: Without worts your only source of cooling is the AETN. As a result your colony is quite likely to be doomed to overheat and die eventually. if he put the aquatuner next to the thermo nullifier, it will effectively transfer heat from his base to the heat deletion factory. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltirn Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, bountygiver said: if he put the aquatuner next to the thermo nullifier, it will effectively transfer heat from his base to the heat deletion factory. I agree, but the AETN can only provided a limited amount of cooling - according to this thread about 8 wort's worth if the worts are in high density hydrogen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Those of you counting Wheezeworts, how do your Bluff Briar counts look? In recent updates, I was pleased to see numbers as high as 20 of those in the Starter biome, where in the past I'd be lucky to hit 6 or so. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 6 hours ago, Giltirn said: Without worts your only source of cooling is the AETN. As a result your colony is quite likely to be doomed to overheat and die eventually. You can delete a lot of heat once you realize the difference in specific heat of pH2O and H2O. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 6:51 AM, Lutzkhie said: try this, 1814392082 too much wheez single biome almost 25, other biome had 10 or 15 @Lutzkhie I play survival only no debug, would hate to spend lots of time and discover a world is unplayable to my style due to lack of water and NG geysers, is this seed number on the ranching preview? Is it okay for geysers? Trying to prepare for the rollout, it's this Friday?? I am very very bummed about losing my current save game, but with the changes in geyser output and no new geysers in an old map to compensate, I think it's going to be done for after the update Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 @Denisetwinmostly are steam fumarole, there are 2 AETN close to each other and is also close to 1 steam fumarole and 1 natgas geyser Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Grimgaw said: You can delete a lot of heat once you realize the difference in specific heat of pH2O and H2O. Bigger is sieve fixed temp at 40c. Dump heat i to PW and drop PW at 120c into water at 40c 12 hours ago, Giltirn said: I agree, but the AETN can only provided a limited amount of cooling - according to this thread about 8 wort's worth if the worts are in high density hydrogen. AETN is good to cool gases but not for liqiids...just not powerful enough Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1016896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariilyn Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I didn't realise how much I was lucky with my word gen. In mine there is at least 47 wheezeworts, and 3 AETN. Here is the seed - 102676117. My game was started in tubular but it is still very much the same in the ranching update, apart for the new geysers (I dont know what they are). There is 2 cool steam vent and 1 nat gas fumarole near the base. There is not much animals and plants in the starter biome, however there is A LOT of wild sleet wheat on the cold biomes, especially the one in the east. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1018432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonVile Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I'm currently at 10 and using them all. I still haven't 100% explored the map, so there might be 2-3 more. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1018495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 5 hours ago, vonVile said: I'm currently at 10 and using them all. I still haven't 100% explored the map, so there might be 2-3 more. That's a good/fair amount, for a survival round, if you ask me. Perhaps it would be a good idea to be able to clone seeds like eggs, for the players, who are wheeie addicted. On the other side a use for seeds would be nice, could be integrated in the tuning mechanics for gens, as fine oil.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1018556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morfeo Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 clone that kind of seeds would be great, really great, would be great have 'renewable' biome or something like that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88812-only-7-wheezeworts-on-my-map-and-yours/#findComment-1018576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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