gelat Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I know they work, but they won't use them. Any idea why? I am on the new ranching preview branch. The extra polluted pipe under the drain was intended for a sieve, but the water is all food poisoned. But it is 100% clean going into the bathroom area Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminite2 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I don't know the answer to your question, but I feel obligated to point out that, to my knowledge, showers have no positive effect on dupes, and serve only to use up their valuable time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Luminite2 said: I don't know the answer to your question, but I feel obligated to point out that, to my knowledge, showers have no positive effect on dupes, and serve only to use up their valuable time. I do know showers remove the debuf "grimy" but I don't think that has any effects on dupes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricordis Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I guess it is because of the filled appendix. Maybe the game doesn't know how to handle the direction the fluid has to take. I'd try to cut the pipe right below the T-Section so it turns into a simple 90° turn. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I think Ricordis is on the right track. Put a vent on that leftover pipe segment that is currently full and see what happens. 8 hours ago, gelat said: The extra polluted pipe under the drain was intended for a sieve, but the water is all food poisoned. That's what happens through the Lavatory. That P-H2O is coming from your Dupes. If you are trying to recycle that water directly, you will need to disinfect it at some point, probably by heating it. Might want to do that before it goes to the Sieve, to take advantage of the fixed temp output it has to delete the excess heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Uh oh, now that you mention it has little or no effect to dupes their going nerf it too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT_20 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Lutzkhie said: Uh oh, now that you mention it has little or no effect to dupes their going nerf it too. Not necessarily the showers have been ultimately pointless since the beginning of the game. and the devs are completely aware of that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 sooner or later the grimy debuff is going to do something. Either lowering immunity or raising stress. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Neotuck said: I do know showers remove the debuf "grimy" but I don't think that has any effects on dupes and soggy feet / sopping wet. Are your pneumatic door accesses wrong ? @gelat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher-7 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Maybe in the new hotfix they increase the AI too much and the dupes know the showers do nothing so they don’t use them! I jest, I still build them just because I feel like that’s what I’m “supposed” to do eventually. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 clearly toilets are in use, plumbing is not the problem. Pathing is not the problem, does a save load have any impact? would you share your save file? Possibly needs a bug report Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelat Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Here’s a save. Feeder.sav Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 and i'm filing a bug report on your behalf if thats alright with you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeP2k3 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Aren't showers supposed to remove germs from dupes' skin? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I just wanna confirm, do dupes use a shower if they are not Grimy? if not then it could just be all the dupes are clean Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, BlueLance said: I just wanna confirm, do dupes use a shower if they are not Grimy? .. When that is a confirmation, i want to see a question ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 dupe was grimy, I confirm all dupes in base grimy and germy and still wont use showers I also filed a bug report and included save file etc Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelat Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 My dupes were grimy. I also want the showers to remove the soggy/sopping debuff. I also like to build them as a habit, as I know I'll need them suddenly one day (patch/hotfix/etc) so I'm use to their resource use. @Lifegrow, Yes,my doors were set right. They could use the sinks/lavatories fine. BTW, nice videos on youtube! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 If it helps, dupes are ignoring my showers as well. I'm on Ranch latest build. The plumbing is fine, the showers have water and don't report 'output blocked'. Dupes are grimy. Don't use showers. For those wondering - showers are handy if you have a lot of clean water and not enough polluted water and you need it to make fertiliser. It's a niche sure but it's there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminite2 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, JonnyMonroe said: If it helps, dupes are ignoring my showers as well. I'm on Ranch latest build. The plumbing is fine, the showers have water and don't report 'output blocked'. Dupes are grimy. Don't use showers. For those wondering - showers are handy if you have a lot of clean water and not enough polluted water and you need it to make fertiliser. It's a niche sure but it's there. Some consider it an exploit, but you can also vent clean water into a tank of polluted water; if surrounded by 3 tiles then it will convert. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Kind of sounds like taking a shower isn't being prioritized. Have you tried it with an unemployed dupe? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Soulwind said: Kind of sounds like taking a shower isn't being prioritized. Have you tried it with an unemployed dupe? Or tried raising the shower to a 9? can't prioritize showers, same for lavatories and sinks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Yeah I remembered that after posting. Still sounds like maybe the job prioritization is overriding things although it didn't happen to me while I was messing with the preview build. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminite2 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I noticed that adjusting gas/liquid valves seems to be affected similarly; I had to manually lock a dupe in the room to make him adjust it. I agree, it seemed like it was some uncategorized task that just fell to the very bottom of the priority queue. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, Luminite2 said: I noticed that adjusting gas/liquid valves seems to be affected similarly; I had to manually lock a dupe in the room to make him adjust it. I agree, it seemed like it was some uncategorized task that just fell to the very bottom of the priority queue. I wasn't aware gas/liquid valves required dupe interaction Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88710-built-showers-they-wont-use-them/#findComment-1015883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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