Zeklo Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, Korlie said: Generally almost everything in the world is either something real or something derived from something real. 21 hours ago, Korlie said: Demons are mythological though ... Oof 21 hours ago, Korlie said: If there was more logic to it then it wouldn't be as bad, like if players could construct a giant Nightmare Before Christmas-esque snowman and imbue it with magic to make it animate. But the snowman Klei made is just a generic, sentient snowman thing that looks mildly threatening. You're assuming players wouldn't imbue it with magic. Of course they would. How else would a living snowman work?? As for the design, yeah it's a bit bland but it is more of a reverse snowman than a typical one. I see your point though. Edited March 17, 2018 by Zeklo Corrected spacing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1015773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korlie Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zeklo said: Oof You're assuming players wouldn't imbue it with magic. Of course they would. How else would a living snowman work?? As for the design, yeah it's a bit bland but it is more of a reverse snowman than a typical one. I see your point though. In the very line you quote, I say almost, which is a word used to refer to something being nearly but not fully complete. So trying to mock me mentioning fantasy is fundamentally incorrect as I never said the game was void of fantasy I said it almost is. The only Oof here is your reading capabilities. And mythology is also significantly closer to reality then totally made up fiction, silly fiction at that. There is nothing on the snowman model to suggest it was summoned. There are no gems, or signs of nightmare fuel or anything out of the ordinary it is literally just an animate snowman. And it makes no sense that players would conjure it when it's just a generic enemy mob looking thing. The only logical thing would be for it to be an ally turret, which would make the game too easy. It also morphs out of a snowpile, so it makes no sense that the player would be involved in summoning it when its starting animation has it hidden in the ground beforehand. Which further substantiates the idea that it is a generic thing that would be spawned in a generated world to attack the player. 14 minutes ago, Zeklo said: You're assuming players wouldn't imbue it with magic. Of course they would. How else would a living snowman work?? So here we can see you condemning me for assuming something, and that assumption you are condemning I never actually said; it is you assuming I assumed something. Then you immediately go on to assume something else, while also stating your assumption as a fact. You condemn assumption while assuming that assumption right before making an assumption of your own. I don't think, I should be replying to you anymore. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1015776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Korlie said: In the very line you quote, I say almost, which is a word used to refer to something being nearly but not fully complete. So trying to mock me mentioning fantasy is fundamentally incorrect as I never said the game was void of fantasy I said it almost is. The only Oof here is your reading capabilities. And mythology is also significantly closer to reality then totally made up fiction, silly fiction at that. I'm not trying to mock you. I'm trying to point out a contradiction you made with as little typing I can. It's midnight and I'm on mobile. The primary issue is you're saying a DEMON is more real or "derived from something real" than a SNOWMAN. I've seen far more snowmen in my lifetime than demons. A snowman is literally as far from fiction as you can get. 18 minutes ago, Korlie said: So here we can see you condemning me for assuming something, and that assumption you are condemning I never actually said; it is you assuming I assumed something. Then you immediately go on to assume something else, while also stating your assumption as a fact. You condemn assumption while assuming that assumption right before making an assumption of your own. I don't think, I should be replying to you anymore. You're literally stating nothing here with all these words. "You're making an assumption and basing a claim on it," would've sufficed. Yes I made an assumption. The assumption you didn't think players used magic to make the snowman based upon your phrasing. An assumption but not a baseless one. Not to mention you LITERALLY have a paragraph above that saying just that: 18 minutes ago, Korlie said: There is nothing on the snowman model to suggest it was summoned. There are no gems, or signs of nightmare fuel or anything out of the ordinary it is literally just an animate snowman. And it makes no sense that players would conjure it when it's just a generic enemy mob looking thing. The only logical thing would be for it to be an ally turret, which would h the game too easy. It also morphs out of a snowpile, so it makes no sense that the player would be involved in summoning it when its starting animation has it hidden in the ground beforehand. Which further substantiates the idea that it is a generic thing that would be spawned in a generated world to attack the player. The. Hat. I said Frosty the Snowman for a reason. 18 minutes ago, Korlie said: I don't think, I should be replying to you anymore. If that's how you feel that's fine. Though if you do change your mind I'd be more than happy to have a more proper debate when I'm on my keyboard. Assuming you're not just gonna snap at me and run away from the conversation again. Edited March 16, 2018 by Zeklo I need sleep O__O Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1015779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Fang Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Korlie said: Generally almost everything in the world is either something real or something derived from something real. Depth worms, lure plants, terrorbeaks, crawling horrors, slurpers, tentacles, glommer, hutch, chester, the ancients, Fuelweaver... There's lots of original creatures in this game that aren't just animal hybrids. I would also think that an animated snowman would fall into the "derived from something real" category. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1015819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xedlord Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) On 3/14/2018 at 7:12 PM, Maximus_A_874 said: 22 hours ago, Korlie said: Looks like chopped mushroom flesh that you would get from chopping down mushtrees, they probably decided it would be more convenient to just have the mushtrees just drop their corresponding mushroom instead. Even though it doesn't make sense considering the mushtree doesn't have mushrooms growing on it for it to drop after being chopped down. On 3/14/2018 at 11:51 PM, Xedlord said: Specifically the blooming version. I now have proof that it is the blooming version on it: Now can you see the resemblance? EDIT: That mushtree seed idea does seem plausible since it's the gills of a blooming mushtree, thus it would have lots of spores. And why else would there be special mushroom flesh for blooming mushtrees, but not for normal ones? Edited March 16, 2018 by Xedlord Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1016033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 21 hours ago, Zeklo said: As for the design, yeah it's a bit bland but it is more of a reverse snowman than a typical one I kind of like the snake-like look of it. They should emphasize. Maybe take notes from Neopets's Snowager? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1016132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlZalph Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 3 hours ago, __IvoCZE__ said: The spooked batilisk ( ? ) is in game just you need to make bat to be picked up via console command. A bit hard to see from the glare/reflection/dust of the screen, so here's the section zoomed: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1044133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxel Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Well it is startled by the mouse cursor, isn't it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1044390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 15 hours ago, CarlZalph said: "Pls Senpai, noooo.. no touchy there!" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1044471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Also then I got scared so hard by a guano that appeared next wolfgang. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88696-unused-mushroom-inventory-icons/page/2/#findComment-1044500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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