diegobrego Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Hello there! The other day i was in bed and i entered the ONI site, and i looked at the pictures that are on the first page, the screenshots of the game, and i saw that the environment lightning was totally different than it is now, somehow it seems to be all so bright right now, and in the screenshots you can see how lights make it look more beautifull, i never lived inside an Asteroid but i think, it should be pretty dark in there, so i thought it would be a nice feature to get this lights work like theyre meant to. You could make the "world" more dark, and use lights to discover places and not only that, i like the idea that the stress level gets lower with light, totally normal, when you dont see something you get a bit more scared, thats where some duplicants could have some stats like fear the darkness or something like that. Also a nice idea would be to improve movement speed, or add some light to an Exosuit so they can dig faster or wont get scared out there in the wild Automation for lights to go on and off at night, light sensors stuff like that would upgrade automation even more, maybe some glowstones? or stuff like that I would just love to see some changes in there. Greetings, Diego. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 51 minutes ago, diegobrego said: i looked at the pictures that are on the first page, the screenshots of the game, and i saw that the environment lightning was totally different than it is now Maybe you should upload or at least link them so people know which ones you are talking about. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-980526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegobrego Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Here are some Screenshots, the atmosphere is so nice on these pictures. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-980527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceHobo Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 That looks great; I wonder why they changed it. The darker areas look so dreary that its easy to see how the dupes become stressed in there. Its not terribly immersion breaking but yea, our dupes are operating at full speed in what is often pitch darkness. Some of those places would be frightening or, at the very least, difficult to move around in. I would love to see dupes waving flashlights around when entering a dark cavern for the first time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-980597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotix Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 This game really looked like that? I thought that it was photoshoped. I event searched some options in driver to change contrast and brightness for ONI. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-980652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi01 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 11 hours ago, diegobrego said: Automation for lights to go on and off at night You can already do that with clock sensors. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-980677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegobrego Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, Michi01 said: You can already do that with clock sensors. Yeah, you got me there ^^. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-980679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khullag Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Lets make areas dark as on pictures (actually feels very good). It will actually require us to build some lights coz right now I just don't build them for dupes (only like when everything else is done). MAKE GAME DARK AGAIN Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadovsf Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Don't forget light emiting quite a heat. Having lights everywhere in base you will fry duplicants alive. Maybe that's the reason why they changed it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotix Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Then they should reduce heat emission of lamps, not make game brighter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, Neotix said: Then they should reduce heat emission of lamps, not make game brighter. Then that will affect the balance of decor and other effects caused by lighting. *Not saying they shouldn't make it darker, saying they shouldn't simply reduce heat if that is the reason why* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpe12 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Maybe they could add a harder mode option that makes light more important. Like dupes working way slower in the dark, and kinda going crazy if in the dark for too long. Idk... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegobrego Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, Alpe12 said: Like dupes working way slower in the dark, and kinda going crazy if in the dark for too long. Idk... thats something i was thinking about. Imagine them going all crazy haha, get a new medbed for mental patients xD. 4 hours ago, sadovsf said: Don't forget light emiting quite a heat. Having lights everywhere in base you will fry duplicants alive. Thats true, but still you have to manage the temperature in the base, this would be a higher challenge then. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadovsf Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 But then 1 bulb cannot produce 5W of heat. You can melt plastic to naptha with few bulbs imagine having to light up whole base it would not be just a bigger challenge it would be nightmare to manage heat. Even now game usually end up by heat dead (devs managin that currently by thermal nulifier) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegobrego Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, sadovsf said: Even now game usually end up by heat dead never had a problem with heat ^^, just isolate everything that produces heat to outsuide and cool your liquids. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadovsf Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Yeah but only way how to cool stuff is only recently by mentioned thermal nulifier. Maybe you just did not survive long enough? Almost everything creates heat and without destroying it everything will eventually heat to a point where it just stops working thus no oxygen, no life Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-981727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queron81 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 How about LED lamps? They could be build from gallium. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfficialLolicon Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Maybe the should nerf the heat release then? Maybe just for 2W of heat would be nice, because logically, you can't melt plastics with even 50 light bulbs(I think) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScaryOne Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Never bought a cheap lamp and put a 120w bulb in it? You can definitely melt plastic with an incandescent light bulb. They only convert something like 10% of the power they use into light. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfficialLolicon Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 16 hours ago, TheScaryOne said: Never bought a cheap lamp and put a 120w bulb in it? You can definitely melt plastic with an incandescent light bulb. They only convert something like 10% of the power they use into light. Never had...and I never knew.. Huh, seems like I overlooked it then.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHe_silent_H Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 06/12/2017 at 5:22 PM, sadovsf said: Yeah but only way how to cool stuff is only recently by mentioned thermal nulifier. Maybe you just did not survive long enough? Almost everything creates heat and without destroying it everything will eventually heat to a point where it just stops working thus no oxygen, no life i just move all my heat into the chlorine geyser, then pump the heated chlorine into the void, 2 birds, one stone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegobrego Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 8.12.2017 at 2:13 AM, Queron81 said: How about LED lamps? They could be build from gallium. This would be a nice option, imagine starting with the normal bulbs and use LED as an more advanced option with refined materials. On 6.12.2017 at 8:22 AM, sadovsf said: Maybe you just did not survive long enough? To the heat problems, i start isolating everything from beginning, also i dont really start to build until i have everything researched ^^. Here are some screenshots for my heat solving. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegobrego Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 I edited a screenshot to have a taste of how it could look like when all is darker. havent got much lights in my base, but i would change that ^^. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat1188 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Quote Maybe they could add a harder mode option that makes light more important. Like dupes working way slower in the dark, and kinda going crazy if in the dark for too long. Idk... I agree. In my current base, I don't have any lights at all. I'm on around cycle 600 and it hasn't been a problem. Stress levels are always quite low since I'm feeding them pepper bread, have good decor in the living area, and require them to put on an exosuit before leaving the living area. Quote How about LED lamps? They could be build from gallium. I've seen that idea suggested, seems like a good one. What about a type of tile that has LED track lighting around the edges? diegobrego, I like your base, but I've noticed that you've got the mess tables. med-beds, and massage tables outside of the exosuite checkpoints. Do they eat, get medical care, and massages with the suits on? Thanks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewreckedangle Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 12/3/2017 at 10:10 AM, diegobrego said: The other day i was in bed and i entered the ONI site, and i looked at the pictures that are on the first page, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85016-how-about-some-darkness-environment-lightning/#findComment-982958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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