FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, NanoD said: the oil get to hot for the tepedzier to run. If you don't mind using drip cooling exploit, a small cooling room will be much helpful. refine to gold.sav refine to NG.sav refine to petroleum .sav If you are unwilling to use drip cooling, i recommend using aquatuner to carry heat to somewhere else. This way can't remove heat from your map, but you win a lot of time and place to slove the excess heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-988854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoD Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, R9MX4 said: If you don't mind using drip cooling exploit, a small cooling room will be much helpful. Actually I am already using the exploit with the slickster. That was the plan was to use the slicksters to cool the oil down. Just that if the slickster stop producing it will overheat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-988864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kouromaro Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 hours ago, NanoD said: The biggest problem is if you get to much CO2. Oh, could this be what was happening in my base? I pumped all the CO2 from my 3 NGGs (running off geyser), and the CO2 from my 9-dupes-and-20-something-mealwoods into the slicksters' natural habitat down at the oil well, through a high pressure vent. I soon see they stuck ballooning up without going into the oil-releasing animation. The pressure when that happen is about 2kg/s. I just counted it off as a bug, because after a while they start acting normal again. I was worried anyway, so once my dupes became free I had them digging out the space to uncompressed the gas. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-988887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0r Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 So, I read this post, thought to myself "hmmm, how cool and useful", and set about trying to recreate something similar to it. Only I couldn't get the tepidizer to achieve the temperatures I saw in the OP's save file. So then I went back into the save file, let it run for a cycle, and noticed that the temperature of the CO2 tiles on the tepidizer dropped from 700°C to less than 150°C and stayed there. Obviously so did the tempshift plates and metal tiles surrounding them, making this now completely non-functional, it seems. Was something about this nerfed in the occupational upgrade, or can anyone offer me some advice on what I'm doing wrong? Am I missing the magic sauce here? Cheers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOlz Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 This doesn't work any more. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoD Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, r0r said: So then I went back into the save file, let it run for a cycle, and noticed that the temperature of the CO2 tiles on the tepidizer dropped from 700°C to less than 150°C and stayed there. Obviously so did the tempshift plates and metal tiles surrounding them, making this now completely non-functional, it seems. Yeah they nerfed it at OU. Still works with Magma. But much harder to make it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0r Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 hours ago, NanoD said: Yeah they nerfed it at OU. Still works with Magma. But much harder to make it. Hmmm, as I thought. No matter, I already built the space for it, so I'm going to repurpose mine with magma instead, seeing as it's almost at the magma level anyway. 2x2 magma cube encased in tungsten metal tiles, surrounded on 3 sides with abyssalite insulated tile, but with horizontal mechanical airlocks on automation ought to do it. My dupes are building it now, only have to get the magma to finish it off. Thanks for the heads up on the nerf though, I'm glad I didn't waste ages trying to get it to work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu_x32 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 hours ago, NanoD said: Yeah they nerfed it at OU. Still works with Magma. But much harder to make it. when you say it still works with magma, do you mean with a tepidizer to keep magma from solidifying? Do you have a example build? I've never been able to keep magma from cooling down. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoD Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, manu_x32 said: when you say it still works with magma, do you mean with a tepidizer to keep magma from solidifying? Do you have a example build? I've never been able to keep magma from cooling down. Using the heat from magma. No tepidizer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 feelsbadman i just found your great system and it doesn't work anymore, but you will find new way right Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in the Mist Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Has anyone attempted to use crude oil as a coolant in a metal refinery? I was thinking of using the refinery to heat oil into petroleum then filter the petroleum away. Get two valuable resources at once. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboson Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Man in the Mist said: Has anyone attempted to use crude oil as a coolant in a metal refinery? I was thinking of using the refinery to heat oil into petroleum then filter the petroleum away. Get two valuable resources at once. That... is a great idea. I've been using crude oil in my metal refiner and then just pumping it directly into my oil refiner using abyssalite pipes (keeps the heat down if I do it right... I think). I will have to see how hot I can get waste oil. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Man in the Mist said: Has anyone attempted to use crude oil as a coolant in a metal refinery? I was thinking of using the refinery to heat oil into petroleum then filter the petroleum away. Get two valuable resources at once. It's tricky. If the conversion happens inside pipes it will break them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in the Mist Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Even though both are liquids? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 its less about becoming gas and more about the fact that suddenly there is something different in the pipe Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureJohny Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Even if the pipe "breaks" it will still transfer liquids just fine. Just disable autorepair and tobstop wasting minerals. Although it is most likely bug, and will be fixed in a future. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1004880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0r Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The oil that slicksters poop also don’t seem to be coming out at 30C any more, either, but much hotter. I’m guessing this got nerfed too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1005858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoD Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, r0r said: The oil that slicksters poop also don’t seem to be coming out at 30C any more, either, but much hotter. I’m guessing this got nerfed too. What temp is it on the CO2? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1005859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, r0r said: The oil that slicksters poop also don’t seem to be coming out at 30C any more, either, but much hotter. I’m guessing this got nerfed too. Slicksters now poop oil at the temperature of the CO2 they consume. So run your CO2 line through an ice biome and you got supercold oil. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1005865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Fun Fact! If you keep your metal refinery in a vacuum, you can use liquid metal as a coolant! It won't heat the refinery! I did it with molten gold (the easiest metal to melt, and smelted some iron. It heated the gold around 1000C. Of course, the refinery will heat up due to its operation (80 W), so there will have to be some method of cooling it after a while, which will have to involve making sure there is no liquid metal in it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1006005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0r Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 13 hours ago, NanoD said: What temp is it on the CO2? About 60-70C, pretty much what it was to begin with when I tapped into the oil biome. I’m using the suggestion that @Saturnus made, more or less, and piping the waste CO2 from the NGGs through a hydrogen filled wheezewort room before sending it back to the slicksters. A few more cycles and I should see a drop in temperature, hopefully. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1006065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoD Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just now, r0r said: About 60-70C, pretty much what it was to begin with when I tapped into the oil biome. yeah then you will get oil that is 60-70 C. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1006066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0r Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Yes, I realise that now! Although looking through the game updates page (https://forums.kleientertainment.com/game-updates/oni-alpha/), I cant find anything about the tepidizer or slickster being nerfed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1006085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Fox Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, r0r said: Yes, I realise that now! Although looking through the game updates page (https://forums.kleientertainment.com/game-updates/oni-alpha/), I cant find anything about the tepidizer or slickster being nerfed. Klei tends to have a habit of stealth fixing things. Particularly when they're useful bugs or 'bugs' that people liked to use. Certainly, it could also just be the speed of development as well. It can be easy to forget all that you fixed during a day of bing code fixing, I'm sure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1006097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoD Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 6 hours ago, r0r said: slickster being nerfed. Slickster have been behaving always that way. That it will out put same temp oil as the CO2 it sucked in. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84010-heat-based-oil-refining-to-natural-gas/page/2/#findComment-1006189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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