Oozinator Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 success.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botaxalim Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Its not easy, takes effort ,time, patience, work and planning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanMcO Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Much easier way? Put a pump in the water that collects from the steam, and then pump it to a freezing biome and make a large cistern of water there to cool. That worked pretty well for me, though my initial cistern heated up and did not get good temperature transfer even when adding ice and cold minerals to the tank. Now I drain it out of that into a natural cistern which seems to work better. Goes from 157 degrees to 52 degrees and now makes great irrigation. This was before I had it falling into the more natural cistern, note the temperature difference, water temp 82 degrees which overheated my bristle blossoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 50 minutes ago, SusanMcO said: Much easier way? Put a pump in the water that collects from the steam, and then pump it to a freezing biome and make a large cistern of water there to cool. That worked pretty well for me, though my initial cistern heated up and did not get good temperature transfer even when adding ice and cold minerals to the tank. Now I drain it out of that into a natural cistern which seems to work better. Goes from 157 degrees to 52 degrees and now makes great irrigation. The only problem with this is that it eventually will heat up. The ice and stored temperature in that storage area is finite, whereas the heat generated by the geyser is not. You'll need some additional cooling before long - and also, you may want to keep an eye on the thickness of your tanks walls, else you may have a spill on your hands shortly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanMcO Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 If you note, I noticed the cooling worked better with natural walls/ice in direct contact. So the cistern at the bottom was deconstructed into the middle one. I'm at cycle 425 and it hasn't yet had issues with not getting cold enough. Below my natural cistern, there is a next natural cistern. And some of the rocks don't transfer heat as well, so even though they're in contact with the hot water, they don't get terribly hot. I've also found that making sure the water falls a long distance from the water valve also helps to cool it before it hits the cistern. At some point, maybe will experiment with what distance is needed to effectively cool water that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trukogre Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 If you use abyssalite pipes and valve down the water going to bristle blossoms so that each plant gets just under what it will take, then they won't build up stored water in the tile and thus won't heat up even with nearly boiling geyser water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat1188 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 At what rate can you cool the geyser water down? Can you pull it out of the geyser tank at 10 kg/s empty it into the cooling tank and pull it out of the cooling tank at 10 kg/s? Will that continue to work over hundreds of cycles? Or do you have to pump the geyser water into the cooling tank, wait a while for it to cool down, then pump it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, madcat1188 said: At what rate can you cool the geyser water down? Can you pull it out of the geyser tank at 10 kg/s empty it into the cooling tank and pull it out of the cooling tank at 10 kg/s? Will that continue to work over hundreds of cycles? Or do you have to pump the geyser water into the cooling tank, wait a while for it to cool down, then pump it out? The geyser water is 95C when it comes out of the geyser. Remember, that's actually a low temperature compared to what most of your generators, batteries etc can handle if they're built from gold amalgam. So you can use the water directly to cool such things that you don't need to maintain before even thinking about cooling the water down further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanMcO Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 The cooling is almost instantaneous in my setup. I pump it immediately out to other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 7 hours ago, SusanMcO said: The cooling is almost instantaneous in my setup. I pump it immediately out to other places. I do it similar "easy going way".First i pump everything "bad" into ice bioms and melt them down Then i pump molten goo into freeze/storage area The further plan is, that my peons carry frozen goo, to evil magma biome and reheat it. Then i can pump it into freeze area again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Using an Ice biome will eventually melt all of the ice and then it will all heat up, the best thing to do is use hot water in abysallite pipes for things that destroy heat, for instance electrolyzers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Most importantly - freezing an 800kg tile of polluted water only gives you 400kg of ice if i remember correctly... You lose half. Just like when you mine tiles you lose half the mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Lifegrow said: .. You lose half... Cool thing! When i melt it again, after digging it up and freezing and digging again, after melting and freezing and digging, it's all gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 8 hours ago, BlueLance said: the best thing to do is use hot water in abysallite pipes for things that destroy heat, for instance electrolyzers. That's the way I run my base. Hot water from geysers are fed into electrolyzers and sleet wheat and bristle blossom farms through abyssalite pipes while my showers, lavatories, and carbon skimmer uses purified water that gets recycled through a water purifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanMcO Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 11:07 AM, goboking said: That's the way I run my base. Hot water from geysers are fed into electrolyzers and sleet wheat and bristle blossom farms through abyssalite pipes while my showers, lavatories, and carbon skimmer uses purified water that gets recycled through a water purifier. Doesn't the hot water heat the plants too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, SusanMcO said: Doesn't the hot water heat the plants too much? If you use valves and give them just enough water, no, as only sitting water heats up the plants. Water they use doesn't overheat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 19.9.2017 at 8:07 PM, goboking said: ..and sleet wheat and bristle blossom farms ... showers, lavatories, and carbon skimmer.. I use nothing from that stuff on my colony. Most important for me, was to get rid of carbon skimmer / water usage. Now i have so much water. Really no problem to cool it down, before usage. Here is how i "manage" the waterstuff. No pressure damage on airflow tiles (last pic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanMcO Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 stepping down the airflows cools it enough with the wheezeworts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xygen Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 my current most efficient geyser cooling. Cooling 2 Geysers by 5 Wheezeworts and WolFramite Pipes, then stay Icy. 4 Wheezeworts are fine enough to stay 20C. I think it can even manage height by over pressure, if Supply surpass Demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, SusanMcO said: stepping down the airflows cools it enough with the wheezeworts? When your "stepping -path" creates enough "swirls"(that vortexpicture-animation), you need less wheezies, but yes it works, many different ways. 5 minutes ago, 0xygen said: my current most efficient geyser cooling. Cooling 2 Geysers by 5 Wheezeworts and WolFramite Pipes, then stay Icy. 4 Wheezeworts are fine enough to stay 20C. I think it can even manage height by over pressure, if Supply surpass Demand Nice how different ppl solve problems in oni I like to cool down geysir directly. When i see the red dots (heat texture) somewhere, i fix it. Why insulating the geysir, only too cool it down later? ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xygen Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 you mean Left geyser? I wanted quick result of insulating geyser with/without 1 height of water. and I didn't need water much when I build this, so I build small as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat1188 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Oxygen, at what rate do you pump water out of the cool reservoir? What temperature / pressure is the hydrogen at? Can you show that same screen shot but with the liquid pipes showing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat1188 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I built one of the Geyser coolers shown in the image above. It did work for me, I did manage to get the geyser water to cool down to about 30 C. However, it suffers from the same problem that pretty much every other geyser water cooling solution I've seen has: the rate of cooling. You'll notice that the geyser is covered over the top. This reduces the rate it at which produces water. When I put a pump in the cool water reservoir and pumped it into my base after about 50 cycles or so the reservoir was empty. Can anybody cool geyser water at10 kg/s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, madcat1188 said: I built one of the Geyser coolers shown in the image above. It did work for me, I did manage to get the geyser water to cool down to about 30 C. However, it suffers from the same problem that pretty much every other geyser water cooling solution I've seen has: the rate of cooling. You'll notice that the geyser is covered over the top. This reduces the rate it at which produces water. When I put a pump in the cool water reservoir and pumped it into my base after about 50 cycles or so the reservoir was empty. Can anybody cool geyser water at10 kg/s ? A geyser only output max ~4.2kg/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xygen Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 There was no special piping or pressure management. Left geyser directly connecting to Vent, and Main tank is placed/connected at Right of this pic (you see water tank continuing to right). Top Hydrogen is 5.4k and-5 C, Bottom Hydrogen is 2.3k and -5 C. Left Geyser Temp is 60 C but it seems sliiiiiightly rising (it was 50-ish) And both Geyser dont showed "over pressure" so I get maximum water supply and still Icy. which means cooling 8.4kg/s? add more Wheezwort till cooled enough 12 minutes ago, Saturnus said: A geyser only output max ~4.2kg/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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