Axetothemax Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 After my first base failed due to various gas problems, I started a new game with the mindset of creating airlocks between areas. As it so happens my new map had two large pockets of vacuum close to eachother. I built a small double-door airlock before digging through the wall of the first chamber, not allowing my precious base oxygen to fill the vacuum. My dupes only have to hold their breath when going in there so it seems like in the current state of the game the lack of air preassure is less of a hazard than the lack of breathable oxygen. Now: What can I do with this space? I figure i could build something generating heat and use the vacuum for isolation. Post your ideas pls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamjam Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I think it would be a good place for a hydrogen generator. Everything else that puts off a lot of heat requires too much dupe interaction, whereas the hydrogen generator never needs to be touched by your dupes once it's operational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexicube Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Large batteries throw out a lot of heat, so maybe put those inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatmeal Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Huh... I never thought about it, but CAN we make our own vacuums? Lock off a room with a pump and pump away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axetothemax Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 I wonder how well the wires and pipes conduct heat. That could be a potential problem. The vacuum only prevents heat spreading through the "air". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifthSurprise Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Oatmeal said: Huh... I never thought about it, but CAN we make our own vacuums? Lock off a room with a pump and pump away. Eventually the pump stops working because it is not in enough gas. So its not pure vacuum but it's barely breathable oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coda Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Funny enough, I just asked something like this in the Steam discussion board before coming to the Forum. I was wondering the same thing regarding making a vacuum, and I might have a potential idea based on a real world device, a Sprengal Vacuum Pump.This is a video I saw that gave me the idea, courtesy of Cody'sLab. The concept basically uses the weight of Mercury a sort of double funnel type system that allows gravity to draw mercury from one dropper, into a space connected to the vacuum to be, and trap any gasses in the space under the drops into the following funnel, allowing a thin tube to draw the trapped air with the mercury to an exhaust area. It's a very awesome concept to see first hand, but as soon as I saw it, I recalled my attempts to remove all of the oxygen from a cave above my main base so I wasn't out any potential breathing air, only to find gas pumps aren't going to get the job done. If it's possible to "drip" enough water into a funnel like system and trap air flowing down in a one block wide tube going down with the gravity affecting the water (assuming it preserves it's shape on the way down), then there is a potential that we could passively draw air from any space with a gas block connecting them to this system, since the connected area will always be negative pressure relative to the target room... ideally. Alpha game after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedling Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 You can suck a room vacuum ingame, but it will take time. It'll go from g to mg to mcg to vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Seedling said: You can suck a room vacuum ingame, but it will take time. It'll go from g to mg to mcg to vacuum. Why not write µg? It's ALT_GR + M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 id recommend liquid chlorine storage. its the only element in the game we really have no remedy for and I its already a vacuum the temperature will keep it liquid but id double ot triple the walls just in case anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothalin Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 2/20/2017 at 1:22 PM, FifthSurprise said: Eventually the pump stops working because it is not in enough gas. So its not pure vacuum but it's barely breathable oxygen. You can make a vacuum with an air pump, the pump will keep working until the room is a vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 9 hours ago, Saturnus said: Why not write µg? It's ALT_GR + M Every time I see mcg a shiver runs my spine... By the way, it doesn't work with my keyboard layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDegow Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It's actually how the game currently displays microgram, Seedling is right to reproduce ONI's behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Well, naturally ONI should use the proper way to display metric units. (EDIT: mcg should only be used to describe to unit in the context of medical dosage, and even in that case only in mainland USA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDegow Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I think that it was way more convenient for devs to use mcg because Unicode in ONI wasn't fully supported during alpha release time. Mildly interesting note : French keyboard layout has the µ easily accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 hour ago, DonDegow said: I think that it was way more convenient for devs to use mcg because Unicode in ONI wasn't fully supported during alpha release time. Mildly interesting note : French keyboard layout has the µ easily accessible. The accepted replacement for µg if you don't have µ is ug, though. Not ever mcg which is microcentigram, or 10µg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somafied Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Did this awhile back I've considered using it as a cold room for instant freezing liquids once melting is available might be worth while. https://youtu.be/uAQvJrKyG14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruleworld Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 On 21/02/2017 at 4:26 AM, Axetothemax said: I wonder how well the wires and pipes conduct heat. That could be a potential problem. The vacuum only prevents heat spreading through the "air". there's insulated pipes and wires for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profitz Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Somafied said: I've considered using it as a cold room for instant freezing liquids Vacuum has zero thermal conductivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somafied Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 in that case i have no idea how to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Somafied said: in that case i have no idea how to use it It's a perfect insulator. In reality most liquids should also boil in a vacuum but that doesn't seem to be the case as I've tried and failed to make a vacuum distiller work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somafied Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Yes, astronauts wear space suits to prevent their blood boiling at the low pressure. So i heard... But I'm guessing the boiling point is lower as well so maybe steam at some negative temperature might be possible? I guess when u say insulator u mean like a thermos flask? Place a vacuum between walls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Somafied said: Yes, astronauts wear space suits to prevent their blood boiling at the low pressure. So i heard... But I'm guessing the boiling point is lower as well so maybe steam at some negative temperature might be possible? I guess when u say insulator u mean like a thermos flask? Place a vacuum between walls? Any liquid should boil in an absolute vacuum. Temperature is irrelevant. Indeed. That is my preferred way to thermally insulate my base to make sure it stays cool regardless of external temperature. You just have the limit the connection points to the outside to an absolute minimum, preferably only one or two exits, as those will be the only places where any thermal conduction can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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