Targa_X Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I read on the FAQ that purchasing the alpha grants you the full game on release. Pretty standard for Steam early access games. What I don't understand is the developer's decision to create 2 entirely different Steam apps. 457140 is the "full game", while 593590 is the alpha. To me, this looks as though I'm buying app 593590, which will not ever allow me to play app 457140 since that's a completely different game in the Steam store. I own quite a number of early access titles, and have never seen a developer create two separate game pages on Steam. Why? And why not simply follow what everyone else does and just change the name when it's fully released, removing the "alpha" tag? It's just....weird. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 The game isn't in Early-Access yet. Valve doesn't have any way to release an alpha for purchase without it entering the entire Steam ecosystem. We specifically do not want to be part of the discovery queue, top sellers, new releases and all the other stuff that goes along with a release on steam. It's something new we are trying out that they are helping us with. Valve created a new page for us that restricts these things (just like how we use it before it goes public). The appids are different, but the package that you get from the purchase is the same. You can think of the "appid" in the case that you have above as a store page (for the sake of discussion). So appid 593590 is an app that doesn't show in the Valve ecosystem. But the package(game) that appid 593590 gives you is the same one that appid 457140 would give you if it were available for purchase. So when the games goes into early-access and full release you will be getting the full game, because technically speaking that's already what you have. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-868913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrachronos Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Wow, you guys actually got Valve off their lazy asses? I knew you guys were something special, but that takes the cake. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-868931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 hours ago, terrachronos said: Wow, you guys actually got Valve off their lazy asses? I knew you guys were something special, but that takes the cake. Imagine Klei as the mafia... inb4, forum artists draw the klei staff as the mafia... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted February 19, 2017 Developer Share Posted February 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Asparagus said: inb4, forum artists draw the klei staff as the mafia... If only I could... well, there's always Photoshop Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, ImDaMisterL said: If only I could... well, there's always Photoshop "dev memes". Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted February 19, 2017 Developer Share Posted February 19, 2017 Thanks for the images, @minespatch! How about we make a Klei anime now? Now we need a mod version of that... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, ImDaMisterL said: Thanks for the images, @minespatch! Now we need a mod version of that... I can die peacefully now... (wait... where's Biiigfoot?!) O__O @JoeW, @nome... might you guys have one of the big man himself Jaime Lannister? OMG this is adorable Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted February 19, 2017 Developer Share Posted February 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Asparagus said: (wait... where's Biiigfoot?!) Lunch break. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer nome Posted February 19, 2017 Developer Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, ImDaMisterL said: If only I could... well, there's always Photoshop Sweet, Charles and I get swords! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Asparagus said: (wait... where's Biiigfoot?!) O__O Proto wilson is obviously not what he looks like. If he and @Kevin had caricatures, I'd make them transparent. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted February 19, 2017 Developer Share Posted February 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, minespatch said: If he and @Kevin had caricatures, I'd make them transparent. Wait, you mean to tell me that that is NOT how Kevin looks like? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 minute ago, ImDaMisterL said: Wait, you mean to tell me that that is NOT how Kevin looks like? He's WX's brother? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/74351-question-for-devs-steam-app-457140-vs-593590/#findComment-869139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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