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  1. 1. Drinks?

    • Yes!
    • No, but all drinks should be categorized as Goodies.
    • No, but some drinks should definitely be recategorized.
    • No. Wigfrid shouldn't be able to drink any non-meat beverage, period.
    • It's fine as is.


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Since the addition of Pearl's Tea Shop, drinks have been in an odd position for food-restricted characters like Wigfrid.
Over the course of DST's life cycle, many consumable drinks have been added and shuffled into the existing food types (Typically Goodie or Veggie, and one outlying Meat drink, hi eggnog).
Goodies can be consumed by every character regardless of restriction, but a lot of the type choices don't make sense to me. For example, why is Soothing Tea and Banana Shake a Veggie, while Banana Daquiri and Pearl's Tea a Goodie? I suppose some of this could be written off as balancing reasons, but overall it's hard to gauge what is and isn't a consumable drink for Wigfrid at this state.

My proposal is this: Every food that specifically uses the new drinking animation should be classified under a new Drink food type. This new food type would function as the current Goodie food type, allowing any meat/veggie restricted character to freely consume them, and would finally end the debate on why Wigfrid can drink some non-meat beverages and not others.

What do you all think?

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Personally, I think Wigfrid's downside makes her more dynamic. I think it's odd that there are so many caveats to it now, being that "goodies" even exist in the first place.
I kind of have an issue with goodies being edible for her in the first place. Wigfrid can't/refuses to eat any of the ingredients used to make these dishes, yet once they're combined, she can? This feels unintuitive and I certainly wouldn't expect it on the character billed as "Only eats meat."

I guess it kind of made sense for the holiday candies and treats, don't want to exclude a character from an entire event, but now that goodies is a full-on food group, it just feels. Weird. And making drinks a category that Wigfrid either 100% can or can't consume I feel would be limiting. Consider very veggie-centric drinks, like Asparagazpacho and the Vegetable Stinger. That'd feel even more like a flip in the face to Wigfrid's downside if all of sudden she can drink them because they're classified as drinks, and if you have to make a special exception for them, it just feels like you've taken extra steps to get back to the same place.

I do agree that consistency would be nice. Either way it goes, either in favor or against her being able to eat it, it's very bizarre that Banana Shake and Banana Daquiri are classified differently. It could use some cleaning up.

 

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I think it kind of makes sense in the same way a vegetarian won't be chomping on steaks, but they still eat candy. Same the other way. I'm always down for adding new dishes and can agree the teas do add a bit of inconsistency with certain ones. It's definitely a pickle, just like how people on carnivore diets/ketovore diets today debate if plant material (Tea included) is ok or JUST water/animal products. It actually raises some interesting question and is pretty deep when you consider the time and place the game takes place. I mean Wigfrids diet goes back to even as far as the 1800s. .And given she's a Viking which has Germanic decent (The photo of her is in German in her cutscene). It all starts to paint a pretty clear picture (I know she is technically just "role playing"). 

So, I guess it really depends on just how strict Klei wants to be with her lore as how it is now is still up to debate even by people who partake in similar diets to her now. I do think that in some circumstances gameplay doesn't have to be super strict like auth said so that characters can't partake in events. 

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i would certainly like if someone sat down and went through all of the crockpot dishes and recategorised them based on the current classifying perimeters. personally i do not see too much of an issue with drinks all being their own category since so many are already not restricted for anyone so opening the last few stragglers is whatever. when the rule only applies kind of, sort of sometimes there kind of isnt any more reason for the rule and this would probably help modders out as a by-product.

I think people are forgetting the "why" behind Wigfrid's carnivore downside. She's not a carnivore because she physically can't eat non-meat foods, she's a "carnivore" because she's method-acting a stereotypical Viking warrior. That means she can eat something that has vegetables as part of the dish as long as there's some good, real meat for her to chew on, which makes it a dish suitable for a warrior. 

Apply the same logic to drinks: did the Vikings only chug tankards of cow blood out of some delusional dietary obsession with only consuming animal parts? No, of course not, they drank mead and plundered wine and stuff like that. Wigfrid should therefore be able to drink any drink she wants. 

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I feel like we're at a point where they keep diluting diet downsides to a degree it makes the rules feel very loose and wish-y-wash-y...

Goodies were made so early on at a point where Beequeen only really dropped the jellybeans. At this time, it was a boss item Wigfrid straight up couldn't use. I get the decision, but I really do feel like it went down the wrong slide over time.

I think Hamlet did it best. Allow ways for Wig or whoever to circumvent the restriction with their own take on it. We had nettles, and meated nettles. Same idea, little bit different of an approach. I'd have preferred them take this direction than caving in and letting Wig drink the teas. Which is also why I'm a bit on the fence with introducing yet another loose food type rule wise.

Drinks currently have their own tag that makes them use the unique animations/sounds and I think that's fine for now.

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Yesn't

How is a new player supposed to know that a 'meat-only' warrior can casually sip on a banana daiquiri?

3 hours ago, -Variant said:

I think Hamlet did it best. Allow ways for Wig or whoever to circumvent the restriction with their own take on it. We had nettles, and meated nettles. Same idea, little bit different of an approach. I'd have preferred them take this direction than caving in and letting Wig drink the teas.

That's a great way to put it, solid point.

i I feel exactly the same way

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15 hours ago, -Variant said:

I think Hamlet did it best. Allow ways for Wig or whoever to circumvent the restriction with their own take on it. We had nettles, and meated nettles. Same idea, little bit different of an approach. I'd have preferred them take this direction than caving in and letting Wig drink the teas. Which is also why I'm a bit on the fence with introducing yet another loose food type rule wise.

Now there is an idea I can get behind! The idea that wig would want to make something more befitting of her character, perhaps a bone broth of some sort but altered based upon what is put in it. (I play so much warly any opportunity for new foods makes me happy, even if theoretical and just discussed for fun...)

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On 2/23/2026 at 5:57 PM, -Variant said:

Goodies were made so early on at a point where Beequeen only really dropped the jellybeans. At this time, it was a boss item Wigfrid straight up couldn't use. I get the decision, but I really do feel like it went down the wrong slide over time.

i definitely think they need to come back to this stuff because wigfrid does NOT need jellybeans LOL. she has so many of her own options now!

regarding the OP, generally i think drinks make sense to be an exception personally, although i really dont have strong feelings on the matter either way as long as theres some viable alternative, as variant suggested.

although some of the meat/veggie distinctions with drinks do make sense to me - i understand why wigfrid wouldnt want a veggie stinger, and i understand why wurt wouldnt want to drink eggnog... except, well, wurt's quotes often don't support that. so she DOES drink eggnog, but she also doesnt. wigfrid occasionally has this issue as well, where her quotes will indicate that she can consume something she actually cant, but i notice that wurt has this issue far more often (i think? take that with a grain of salt, i've actually never played wurt lol) so i would... really love it if those cases were cleaned up.

the main issue that I had with the tea situation was simply that wigfrid had awesome varied dialogue for each tea that was just straight-up obliterated for mid, completely identical dialogue going Ewww yucky i hate vegetables ewwww!!!!! so my biggest fear if they DO clean up those cases is that they will just make the characters more bland in the process. i want to know what they have to say, and i want their contributions to actually mean something. Saying "I DON'T EAT THIS FOOD CATEGORY" over and over is not enjoyable. there are more involved ways to have them voice their dislike; using the veggie stinger as an example, wigfrid's quote for it is "Thy spicyness intrigues me nöt!" - she specifically mentions a trait of the dish before enforcing that it is something that she won't consume. I just want her to pick out specific petty things that she doesn't like about it pleaaaaaase i know she has it in her she's so loud about everything. texture, taste, appearance, give me literally anything. hell, you could even imply that she WANTS to eat it but won't because she's desperately trying to stay in-character!!!

On 2/23/2026 at 12:11 PM, Auth said:

Personally, I think Wigfrid's downside makes her more dynamic. I think it's odd that there are so many caveats to it now, being that "goodies" even exist in the first place.
I kind of have an issue with goodies being edible for her in the first place. Wigfrid can't/refuses to eat any of the ingredients used to make these dishes, yet once they're combined, she can? This feels unintuitive and I certainly wouldn't expect it on the character billed as "Only eats meat."

I guess it kind of made sense for the holiday candies and treats, don't want to exclude a character from an entire event, but now that goodies is a full-on food group, it just feels. Weird. And making drinks a category that Wigfrid either 100% can or can't consume I feel would be limiting. Consider very veggie-centric drinks, like Asparagazpacho and the Vegetable Stinger. That'd feel even more like a flip in the face to Wigfrid's downside if all of sudden she can drink them because they're classified as drinks, and if you have to make a special exception for them, it just feels like you've taken extra steps to get back to the same place.

I do agree that consistency would be nice. Either way it goes, either in favor or against her being able to eat it, it's very bizarre that Banana Shake and Banana Daquiri are classified differently. It could use some cleaning up.

i agree, i think the goodies category mostly makes sense for fun event stuff, and i think some of them are fine to be excluded as well! i also mostly think it could use some cleaning up lol.

that said, i do feel that teas are in a very odd position because they DO have a large gameplay impact, but i also wouldnt really say that theyre vegetable-centric drinks...? as somebody else mentioned, vikings drink mead and stuff. i think the teas specifically make sense for wigfrid to be able to have, it's like, flavored water. i dont believe she only drinks hot dog water.

i know teas are what incited this debate in the first place but i feel like theyre an exception that makes some sense. She should not be able to eat that damn mushroom cake. Why can she have bananas but only sometimes?????????

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Gonna level with you on this one: my food recipe scrapbook still only has about 29-31 food entries, there is ALOT of food dishes in DST and I’m still discovering them, but that’s because I’m stubborn and don’t look them up on Wiki. The In-Game Food Recipe Cards help to discover new food dishes, but I honestly don’t think that we NEED to over flood the food system with a bunch of unnecessary recipes. Or if we do… do it like Lego Fortnite Brick Life so the “drinks” category & “potions” are easy to find.

i agree but not purely because wigfrid, i just think having drinks as a seperate food category would benefit modded characters as well as open the door for more unique food items that offer new stuff while not giving hunger benefits (kinda like potions from hallowed nights and wendys elixirs) 

The function of FoodType is to allow or prohibit characters/mobs from consuming some type of food. If all characters/mobs entities that can consume Goodies can also consume Drink and vice versa, then it does not have the value of existing as a separate new FoodType.

Classified them as Goodies is good.

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