Tranoze Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 If more than 75% players swap Q and E should we swap the default setting itself? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho142 Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 it's not usually a very big deal, after playing for a while its just something you get used to and not think about very much Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 what? No. 7 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 What gives you the impression that it is common to swap the Q and E key? 9 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
00petar00 Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 Most players don't swap and this is the first time I am hearing this. It doesn't make much sense either way because most players adapt to most default settings and how many times does an average player reinstall the game? 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 I guess it's just a rare thing between us few. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted May 13, 2025 Author Share Posted May 13, 2025 2 hours ago, GimplyGoose said: What gives you the impression that it is common to swap the Q and E key? I dont know, that why im asking players here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 Kinda related but not, but I wish that you could bind 2+ keys to the same action. I have side mouse buttons I would love to bind to my first inventory slot to quick swap between my weapon/cane, while still retaining wanting to be able to press "1" on the keyboard to also swap to the first slot so I don't need to undo muscle memory. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 Why swap? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 i think you are insane 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted May 13, 2025 Author Share Posted May 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Gashzer said: Why swap? If you only use W for foward moments, Q and E to change directions, swap feel more like third person as pess Q let you rotate left and E let you rotate right. Not swapping then the world rotate instead of you. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 7 minutes ago, Tranoze said: If you only use W for foward moments, Q and E to change directions, swap feel more like third person as pess Q let you rotate left and E let you rotate right. Not swapping then the world rotate instead of you. Are q and e not rotate left and right by default? I use them to rotate lol I tend to rotate back to default north orientation tho because if you directing new players to base you want to be in the same orientation as them. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted May 13, 2025 Author Share Posted May 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Gashzer said: Are q and e not rotate left and right by default? I use them to rotate lol I tend to rotate back to default north orientation tho because if you directing new players to base you want to be in the same orientation as them. Hmm if you reinstall the game and use Q and E you ll know what is default. That why i add options "i dont remember" because lots of players changed it years ago and might forgot what default options look like. Or you can go to beta, it often reset default when you change from live to beta. That way you know which option is default and which option you changed it to. 1 hour ago, Gashzer said: q and e not rotate left and right by default? Q and E by default rotate the world to left and right. Swap rotate the player left and right. they are opposite direction. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wawchik Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 (edited) I swapped them to E and R I think because I always put map on Q Edited May 13, 2025 by Wawchik 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted May 13, 2025 Author Share Posted May 13, 2025 31 minutes ago, Wawchik said: I swapped them to E and R I think because I always put map on Q What kind of sorcery is this Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridley Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 I always use Q and E to turn and I have never thought of swapping them. Q turns left and E turns right even if I opt in and out of the Beta. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted May 13, 2025 Author Share Posted May 13, 2025 2 hours ago, Ridley said: I always use Q and E to turn and I have never thought of swapping them. Q turns left and E turns right even if I opt in and out of the Beta. Try it, and tell me if it make your game play feel better or worse? give it a good 10 mins adapt. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 The only key i find utterly annoying is M for map, even though it makes sense from the key itself its uncomfortable for my hand to press often. Since i chnged my map to R my (dst) life became 3x simpler. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridley Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 39 minutes ago, Tranoze said: Try it, and tell me if it make your game play feel better or worse? give it a good 10 mins adapt. Ah, I see what you mean now. I adapted quickly to it, but it doesn't change much for me after years of playing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 I haven't rebound them, but I probably should. They trigger when typing console commands (mod issue?), and I rarely want to rotate the view at all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted May 13, 2025 Share Posted May 13, 2025 8 hours ago, ShadowDuelist said: The only key i find utterly annoying is M for map, even though it makes sense from the key itself its uncomfortable for my hand to press often. Since i chnged my map to R my (dst) life became 3x simpler. for me I set map to Tab, and scoreboard to capslock 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetNerfedOn Posted May 14, 2025 Share Posted May 14, 2025 Take Half and Change Box are unbound by default and I make sure to bind them to Middle Mouse and T per new installation Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonHiggs Posted May 14, 2025 Share Posted May 14, 2025 15 hours ago, ShadowDuelist said: The only key i find utterly annoying is M for map, even though it makes sense from the key itself its uncomfortable for my hand to press often. Since i chnged my map to R my (dst) life became 3x simpler. I always put it on tab like in single player. Isn't like I will use the player board even in MP.. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1815956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervil Posted May 16, 2025 Share Posted May 16, 2025 E is used for moving forward/up. It's the pro way. WASD is so 1990s Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1816212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted May 16, 2025 Share Posted May 16, 2025 Great research OP. You have made a very insightful thread. Looks like Klei got made the keys to rotate the world intuitive for the average player. On 5/14/2025 at 12:36 AM, Well-met said: for me I set map to Tab, and scoreboard to capslock I think Joesmoecoolstuff's key bindings are optimal. Shift for swapping inventory 1, swap the bindings of keys f and space, c for inventory 2, r for inventory 3, z and x for inventory 4 and 5. Tab for map. L33t bindings. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165697-every-time-i-reinstall-the-game-i-swap-q-and-e-key/#findComment-1816220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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