chirsg Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Name multiple characters for all I care. I'm hoping as many people on the forums participate as possible. Don't include downsides. I'll check off each character listed Wilson ☑ Willow ☑ Wolfgang ☑ Wendy ☑ WX-78 ☑ Wickerbottom ☑ Woodie ☑ Wes ☐ Maxwell ☑ Wigfrid ☑ Webber ☑ Wormwood ☑ Winona ☑ Wortox ☑ Wurt ☑ Walter ☑ Warly ☑ Wanda ☐ Wonkey ☑ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkemal23 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Wilson's torch tree is basically the most useless upside ever. I don't think I need to explain. It speaks for itself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Wurt - The wetness shield, its 50 hp for all your wetness, which atleast contributes to health or sanity. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 25 minutes ago, mkemal23 said: Wilson's torch tree is basically the most useless upside ever. I don't think I need to explain. It speaks for itself. you're doing it wrong then because it's very useful Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabin Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 for WX, definetly the sanity circuits. out of all the circuits, i haven't found a single situation where i've needed one of them, even the less "meta" circuits have found more use from me than the processing circuits. the fact that only the first circuit actually gives you a sanity bonus is really stupid (actually, not sure about this one, but my point still stands) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblinball Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 I don’t think bees following wormwood around while he’s at max bloom is very useful. They do the pollination animation but it doesn’t actually do anything it’s purely a visual useless thing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_Atoba_Azul Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Walter takes decreased drowning damage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 wortox eating souls....i know normal food is halfed for wortox and i know what your thinkin that im crazy to say this but....wortox realy dont need to eat souls, there plenty of food, get on the world and walk about, killing random pigs and spiders and make yourself meatystews, or make a fish farm with trawlers net, and use the souls of ocean fish to teleport instead, souls are an emergency food if anything else, but with the experince i had with wortox i realy dont have to eat souls that much, but there plenty out there that seem to think souls are the only good food for wortox, so i guess it works for "pointless upsides" of some sort Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotid01 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Wormwood - “Bee kind” by far the worst skill with honorable mention of the Berries bushes crafting. Wurt - “Swamp Pathfinder” Warly - “Seasoning Salt” sorry I’m a Chili powder/volt goat jelly enjoyer. Wigfrid - “Fireproof Falsetto” like of course there’s so many fire damage in the game. Wonkey - “The running speed” have to spend like 2 seconds in straight line just for a minor speed boost? Nah bro this character is the anti-become monkey meme . Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 walter gains sanity from trees Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChintzyGnat Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Bernie gives insulation, I don't see this as useful when you can burn trees for warmth. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 hour ago, goblinball said: I don’t think bees following wormwood around while he’s at max bloom is very useful. They do the pollination animation but it doesn’t actually do anything it’s purely a visual useless thing This is actually a downside, it reduces my sanity IRL Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedingAlien Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 For Webber, sleeping in spider dens. When would you ever sleep in a spider den when you can easily make an actual tent back in your proper base? (You're playing Webber getting the silk for it won't be hard) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Glow Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Woodie and the follower perk XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Not sure if this counts as an upside because it doesn't even cancel out his downside, but Wolfgang gets a reduced darkness sanity drain when other players or followers are around. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 <-- wickerbottom player as much as I try and try and try, i cannot find a solid confident use for overcoming arachnophobia. Every other tome has its niche use, even pyrotechnics is nice. but overcoming arachnophobia is too slow to use in the moment and i would rather just do something else if i'm anticipating an attack from hounds or similar Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Just now, Primalflower said: as much as I try and try and try, i cannot find a use for overcoming arachnophobia you can slow AG down to make it get staggered for more time since it counts amount of time spent in charge instead of distance that it went through iirc and you can slow CK's claws and FW's woven shadows down Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 As WX78 you can warm/cool people with the Hot/cold circuts.... if theyre about 3 atoms away from you Gather around the dubiously murderous robot ya'll, winters comin' Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 1 minute ago, grm9 said: you can slow AG down to make it get staggered for more time since it counts amount of time spent in charge instead of distance that it went through iirc and you can slow CK's claws and FW's woven shadows down they last 120 seconds DX its not totally bereft of usage in this way but it just isnt convenient or solid at all Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Honestly for me? It’s Winona’s upside for faster crafting, the downside of this is so heavily impactful that it makes me hate the upsides existence altogether. Only people who stand in one place prototyping everything ahead of time will enjoy faster crafting, but for anyone else… those moment to moment spears, axes/pickaxes you have to craft are going to eventually start to add up. I was really hoping Klei would lessen or straight up remove this downside when Winona got her skill tree, but that doesn’t appear to be happening. So the faster craft thing is ONLY ever useful if your actually a base builder or something needing to prototype a bunch of cutstone or wooden planks or whatever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 For Warly, probably the fact that you can make salt crystals into seasoning salt to increase food health values by 25%. That takes a pierogi from 40 HP to 50 and doesn't affect jellybeans. It's really not that big of a deal, and since salt can be used to make salt boxes or to increase freshness by up to 50%, you're just wasting it if you use it for a meager extra 10 HP or so. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted August 21, 2024 Author Share Posted August 21, 2024 30 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Honestly for me? It’s Winona’s upside for faster crafting, the downside of this is so heavily impactful that it makes me hate the upsides existence altogether. Only people who stand in one place prototyping everything ahead of time will enjoy faster crafting, but for anyone else… those moment to moment spears, axes/pickaxes you have to craft are going to eventually start to add up. I was really hoping Klei would lessen or straight up remove this downside when Winona got her skill tree, but that doesn’t appear to be happening. So the faster craft thing is ONLY ever useful if your actually a base builder or something needing to prototype a bunch of cutstone or wooden planks or whatever. I'm not going to count this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPCMaxwell Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Wilson's torch tree is obvious as the other Wilson person above already mentioned. And then for me an upsite that has actually no use for me at all is Maxwell's passive sanity gain, even though I know it's less in DST. But it basically leads to me never being insane when playing as Maxwell unless doing everything possible to cause insanity by purpose. I consider this a DOWNSIDE, honestly. I know you said not naming downsides, but I think I am allowed to /call/ it a downside for /me/ since it is actually a perk. But I got so USED to no insanity with Maxwell, that I took this and turned it into an extreme for my modded Maxwell by making him experience sanity loss quite often while at the same time having an insane amount of sanity, so basically he's constantly sane but not sane at the same time. (this was basically meant to express what I consider this "perk". I would rather not have to FORCE insanity by eating tons of green caps or using up codex umbra just for farming nightmare fuel FOR codex umbra and other shadow magic stuff. So this "perk" to me is so useless that I established it as a (mostly cosmetical) downside for my own Maxwell version.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 The entire weregoose tree besides the first perk Being able to dodge hits would be more impactful if the goose had any way of interacting with things to warrant it. Otherwise the goose's movement speed outpaces any threat you're going to come across anyway. Wetness protection isn't good because you're probably going to plan out your goose runs to just not be while it's raining anyways. And the flying mechanic is... yikes. Winona knows the names of Wagstaff's tools. It's not 100% useless, but it's only useful before you memorize the names anyways. The turf-raiser helm buffs Maxwell's shadow minions. In case you needed to shred up the area while fighting something? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Winona's ability to avoid an attack by Charlie in the darkness once. There are some niche situations where it is helpful (maybe moving heavy objects at night without a head slot light source), but for the most part has very little impact in terms of gameplay. Any character can briefly equip/unequip a torch for a very similar effect. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/#findComment-1741684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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