gamehun20 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 One that really stands out is probably Wickerbottom's sleep immunity ( i consider this an upside) I can't for the life of me figure out a situation where it would be useful like maybe in the cc fight but i still make sure I'm not enlightened so i can see properly or idk mining ryftstals but then the liquid guys get in the way Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 3 hours ago, ChintzyGnat said: Bernie gives insulation, I don't see this as useful when you can burn trees for warmth. It's surprisingly useful for winter starts. My pick would be Walter's sanity gain from standing near trees as while it's funny to stand next to tree guards and gain sanity it's not very useful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 17 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: One that really stands out is probably Wickerbottom's sleep immunity ( i consider this an upside) I can't for the life of me figure out a situation where it would be useful like maybe in the cc fight but i still make sure I'm not enlightened so i can see properly or idk mining ryftstals but then the liquid guys get in the way Wickerbottom's sleep immunity has three in game benefits besides gestalts that come to mind: You can chow down on as many lunar mushrooms as you want without worrying about being put to sleep. You might accumulate a few when visiting the archives. Non-autumn bearger can't put you to sleep with its yawn. (biggest one) Grazers have no way of hurting you. They need to put you to sleep before attacking you and they cannot put Wickerbottom's to sleep and therefore she is immune to them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Seeing Torch Toss haters... they don't know true, unbridled overpowered prowess when they see it... hpmh! As for Willow, bias aside, I almost genuinely can't think of anything. She's a very sturdy character. Always has been. I'd say, maybe Bernie's insulation. Every other flavor-ish perk I get some crazy mileage out of. Also still mad you NEED to hold Bernie for her custom idle. She's basically idle-less without him in your hand slot! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Wendy's perks are quality over quantity, but I'd probably say Distilled Vengeance is by far the worst of Abigail's potions. For one living log and 3 mourning glories, Abigail's shield duration is increased, and has minor damage reflection. The additional damage is negligible against stronger enemies, and Abigail can already take out gratuitous amounts of weak hordes. Finally, if you REALLY need the shield, unyielding draught exists for much less. Other than that, the minor sanity gain on summoning Abigail and minor sanity aura of a filled sisturn are too small to ever make a big impact imo, but they can be nice last resorts ig. Wortox is eating souls I think. It's supposed to be a trade off between eating souls at the cost of sanity, but the hard cap to your soul count, sanity hit every time you eat one and the pretty minute amount of Hunger it heals means you'd honestly just rather eat regular food. 1 hour ago, -Variant said: Seeing Torch Toss haters... they don't know true, unbridled overpowered prowess when they see it... hpmh! As for Willow, bias aside, I almost genuinely can't think of anything. She's a very sturdy character. Always has been. I'd say, maybe Bernie's insulation. Every other flavor-ish perk I get some crazy mileage out of. Also still mad you NEED to hold Bernie for her custom idle. She's basically idle-less without him in your hand slot! I think there's one Perk of Willows I'd say is useless- her lighter, specifically as a light source. It's way too small to see what's going on around you, takes up your hand slot so you can't do work with it, Willow's skill tree is too full for enough spare insight to actually upgrade it, and AFAIK it's the only way for the lighter to lose durability. With how many other actually unique benefits the lighter has, that's a pretty big ask. Sure, it has longer durability than a torch, but the torch's larger radius means that perk is a sidegrade two basically the first item in the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 practically all characters' favorite food except wolfgang's Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 8 minutes ago, grm9 said: practically all characters' favorite food except wolfgang's I think the favorite food of a few characters are actually pretty good. Woody: honey nuggets Wormwood: cooked banana Wonkey (if you count as a character): raw banana Winona: vegetable stinger Wickerbottom: surf and turf Wolfgang: cooked potato Walter: trail mix Wanda: taffy Wilson: bacon and eggs Different foods have different benefits at different stages of the game. Surf and turf can really be an all in one food and the spoilage is OK in a bearger bin. Wormwood doesn't really have to worry about food too much, but if you head down to the ruins early and end up with a bunch of bananas, cooking them up is definitely worth it for him. I think the worst favorite foods (besides Wes crepe) are durian (it is just a worse pumpkin), wobster dinner, and pomegranate. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deactive41year Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 8 hours ago, O_Atoba_Azul said: Walter takes decreased drowning damage. .... wait really. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, SSneaky said: .... wait really. I was about to say, that seems more like a wurt thing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 Wendy's biggest downside is you are just the vessel for Abigail's power. Wendy really doesn't do anything besides exist while Abby does all the work. Winona is pretty resource intensive especially for Rocks which can dry up pretty quick and are a pita to acquire a large amount of. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 1 hour ago, GimplyGoose said: Wickerbottom: surf and turf Indeed, I get a ton of mileage out of this because wickerbottom's tools facilitate mass production of surf and turf Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 5 hours ago, -Variant said: Also still mad you NEED to hold Bernie for her custom idle. She's basically idle-less without him in your hand slot! This is the greatest travesty. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 Playing as a solo wormwood, all his perks related to farming crops... Farming is a massive waste of time for wormwood even tho he's the best at it. Vegs generally have strong healing from simply cooking them on fire, which is wasted on wormwood. Why farm when you can chug down raw monster meat like no tomorrow? With wurts skill tree, he's not even a switch character for mass crop farming anymore. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 Just now, Gashzer said: Playing as a solo wormwood, all his perks related to farming crops... Farming is a massive waste of time for wormwood even tho he's the best at it. Vegs generally have strong healing from simply cooking them on fire, which is wasted on wormwood. Why farm when you can chug down raw monster meat like no tomorrow? With wurts skill tree, he's not even a switch character for mass crop farming anymore. Farming as solo Wormwood is indeed a waste of time. About the only benefit you'll get aside from sanity is cooked potatoes to feed your beefalo, and blue caps do the same healing and grow passively in mushroom planters Wormwood's uniquely suited to both mass-produce and use to their greatest possible effect thanks to his skill tree. Frankly, Wormwood's never been the best at farming in a solo play sense - that's always been Wickerbottom with her books. Not only can she skip waiting for things to grow until she has as many seeds as she could possibly want for crop combinations, she can also skip a ruins trip by just making Lux Aeterna Redux. Wormwood's better only if you're trying to provide crops for multiple players. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 15 hours ago, Wormboi said: I was about to say, that seems more like a wurt thing Wurt takes no drowning damage, gains half the wetness(which is ironically anti synergy these days), and drops nothing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetCloverIt Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 4:44 PM, fabin said: for WX, definetly the sanity circuits. out of all the circuits, i haven't found a single situation where i've needed one of them, even the less "meta" circuits have found more use from me than the processing circuits. the fact that only the first circuit actually gives you a sanity bonus is really stupid (actually, not sure about this one, but my point still stands) i think the hp circuit is way worse because like the sanity one can be helpful when just doing normal chill tasks without terrorbeaks or other sanity hazards interrupting you as opposed to needing to eat healing food later than sooner Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 21 hours ago, -Variant said: As for Willow, bias aside, I almost genuinely can't think of anything. She's a very sturdy character. Always has been. Maybe the campfire/firepit fuel perk? There really isn't much need for camp fires when you can cook on the lighter and summon budget dwarf stars. 54 minutes ago, MaNameWahb said: i think the hp circuit is way worse because like the sanity one can be helpful when just doing normal chill tasks without terrorbeaks or other sanity hazards interrupting you as opposed to needing to eat healing food later than sooner also sanity circuit could potentially be used with the celestial crown for some additional dps, though I'm not sure if just stacking the electric circuits would be better(then again, the latter requires getting hit) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Ragnar Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 Warly can use Willow's lighter to cook food. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 3:45 PM, chirsg said: Wilson ☑ The one where he arms catapults a little faster. On 8/21/2024 at 3:45 PM, chirsg said: Wurt ☑ Swamp path finder. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 19 minutes ago, Just Ragnar said: Warly can use Willow's lighter to cook food. Yeah its useless for Warly as he needs to crockpot cook food anyway. Its actually very useful for Walter tho. Walter and Willow have a nice enough duo synergy in general. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 1 hour ago, flamboyant wolf said: Maybe the campfire/firepit fuel perk? There really isn't much need for camp fires when you can cook on the lighter and summon budget dwarf stars. 2 hours ago, MaNameWahb said: I considered saying this, but I do actually use it quite a lot! I still use campfires, and I've become the designated campfire (And mast light, too!) fueler. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 8 minutes ago, -Variant said: I've become the designated campfire (And mast light, too!) fueler. New headcannon: Survivors always keep an eye on Willow to keep her away from the booze green caps. She's the designated campfire fueler and they don't want her to burn the base again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 13 minutes ago, -Variant said: I considered saying this, but I do actually use it quite a lot! I still use campfires, and I've become the designated campfire (And mast light, too!) fueler. I've found that when playing Willow, that it is sometimes more convenient to use a fire pit instead of fireball, but will light it using an ember and not with fuel. Does the bonus fueling perk on Willow work for flingos as well as firepits? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 17 hours ago, Gashzer said: Farming is a massive waste of time for wormwood I disagree but it's just my playstyle. I like farming. It is fun for me. Plus I can always bundle the 5000 pumpkin and Creamy Potato Puree for whenever I need hunger or sanity on the go. To each their own of course. I like how I don't have to waste time tilling or talking to plants as Wormybuddy. even if all talking requires is a grammaphone for other characters. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted August 22, 2024 Share Posted August 22, 2024 2 hours ago, Gashzer said: Yeah its useless for Warly as he needs to crockpot cook food anyway. Its actually very useful for Walter tho. Walter and Willow have a nice enough duo synergy in general. Technically it did have a use for Warly back when you used to need to cook birchnuts to use them in crockpots Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159132-what-is-the-most-useless-perkupside-about-your-character/page/2/#findComment-1741817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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