ALCRD Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 What kind of devious sadistic minds voted "It's an improvement" / "I'm fine with it." ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, ALCRD said: What kind of devious sadistic minds voted "It's an improvement" / "I'm fine with it." ? anything to stop the efficiency maniacs... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, ALCRD said: What kind of devious sadistic minds voted "It's an improvement" / "I'm fine with it." ? probably the same people who keep saying that all playstyles are valid yet complain when you kill any raid boss 1st autumn because you're not having fun with the game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 12:12 AM, Dextops said: anything to stop the efficiency maniacs... Why? Feeling like in a competition or something? Don't. To each their own. As for latest patch/update changes, both the chopping/mining and (inconsistent/RNG-dependent) attack speed decreases, I don't get how such a modification came-about - of course if is not some unintended consequence. And since attack consistency came about, why there's even such a thing as attack speed variation? Did KLei think this would be "more realistic"? Couple it with high latency and you get sometimes, on over 150/200 (or higher) ping servers, such abysmal attack patterns to the point of not even performing the action (character either just sits there and gets pommeled by enemy or attacks jerkily.. and still gets pommeled by enemy). KLei should revisit this aspect and make a consistent attack pattern, eliminating any-and-all RNG components - I've seen no one from player-base, knowing about this mechanic, defending its inconsistency. There's no logical argument for it in fun game context. Same for chopping/mining speeds: they should be lowered to pre-update pressed-mouse-button rates. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said: Why? Feeling like in a competition or something? Don't. To each their own. it was a joke Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dextops said: it was a joke There's that saying: a joke hides half the truth. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 hours ago, ALCRD said: What kind of devious sadistic minds voted "It's an improvement" / "I'm fine with it." ? I take the game how it is. I don't really care when something is added/removed unless it is severely broken. Counting differences in milliseconds is the kind of thing that really doesn't matter to me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapoLover Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 hours ago, ALCRD said: What kind of devious sadistic minds voted "It's an improvement" / "I'm fine with it." ? I voted I'm fine with it because it isn't even noticeable in my playstyle. If it said "It's okay" I wouldn't even have voted. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. brj Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 hours ago, ALCRD said: What kind of devious sadistic minds voted "It's an improvement" / "I'm fine with it." ? I understand some people might be fine with it because it doesn't affect their experience that much, but I fail to see how this can be seen as an improvement. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Is it possible that they decided to make this change because they plan to overall lower enemy mob health? (so the game plays more closely to DS Solo) at least all currently existing old mobs, meanwhile some newer mobs would be added later… as well as a completely overhauled combat system. Klei overhauled Farming, Fishing, Sailing, and the Crafting Menu… What makes any of you think Combat isnt being eyed down? And if that were the case the slower attack speed may even be in place to open up some brand new types of weapons and attacks later (possibly even burrowing mechanics from Forge..) sure it’s JUST a fantasy concept in my head I guess… but I like to think outside the box and three steps ahead. and in my mind: lowering the speed of the default attack animations leaves leadway for learning new more effective ones. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardee Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BezKa said: I take the game how it is. I don't really care when something is added/removed unless it is severely broken. Counting differences in milliseconds is the kind of thing that really doesn't matter to me. Unless you're using mods or are willing to wreck your fingers, the new chopping speed doubles the amount of time it takes Woodie to fell a single tree.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 hours ago, BezKa said: I take the game how it is. I don't really care when something is added/removed unless it is severely broken. Counting differences in milliseconds is the kind of thing that really doesn't matter to me. Well it's not just matter of "barely noticable" miliseconds in fact it's very noticable not just with chopping and mining but attacking also and it really throws off kiting and attacks are very prone to not properly connect now. It indeed does feel broken and i hope it will be fixed / reverted. https://forums.kleientertainment.com/klei-bug-tracker/dont-starve-together/attacks-not-connecting-due-to-slower-attack-speed-r38481/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Lardee said: Unless you're using mods or are willing to wreck your fingers, the new chopping speed doubles the amount of time it takes Woodie to fell a single tree.... To be fair, previous Woodie speed was downright broken. When I first realized it I was just laughing like an idiot because it was so stupid. He looked like an electric toothbrush. 2 hours ago, ALCRD said: Well it's not just matter of "barely noticable" miliseconds in fact it's very noticable not just with chopping and mining but attacking also and it really throws off kiting and attacks are very prone to not properly connect now. It indeed does feel broken and i hope it will be fixed / reverted. https://forums.kleientertainment.com/klei-bug-tracker/dont-starve-together/attacks-not-connecting-due-to-slower-attack-speed-r38481/ Still not a big deal to me. If it stays like this, whatever, if they change it, whatever. I think the thread and the bugs on the bug tracker are long and loud enough to let Klei know what some players think, and I personally don't mind taking a few extra seconds to chop a couple of trees or kill a beefalo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloakingsumo198 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, BezKa said: Snip I think we should value the player's real life time instead. Slowing down is always an option but speeding up eventually is impossible. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slendyproject Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 13 hours ago, BezKa said: I personally don't mind taking a few extra seconds to chop a couple of trees or kill a beefalo. I do. I dont play this game to chop trees so the less I time I have to spend doing that the better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 21 hours ago, mr. brj said: I understand some people might be fine with it because it doesn't affect their experience that much, but I fail to see how this can be seen as an improvement. You can hold space without doing things way slower than you could be. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoodlemanNed Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 all these changes are fun and all but i think in order for the game to REALLY be uncompromising klei should also reduce player walking speed, maybe by around 20%? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, NoodlemanNed said: all these changes are fun and all but i think in order for the game to REALLY be uncompromising klei should also reduce player walking speed, maybe by around 20%? Make characters blink too, obscuring their vision for .5 seconds every 10 seconds. New Wickerbottom nerf could be that her eyes are always closed, so players have to use the action button as well as sounds to predict their surroundings. This is the kind of uncompromising survival that we don't starve casuals are craving. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seero Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 5:23 PM, dois raios said: 2023 arrived and klei took it personal XD >Reduced mining/chopping speed >Players stuck in pan flute and reading animation (if you missclick, then you will get hit or it will waste a use of your pan flute/book) >Reduced attack speed >character stuck on mast >Holding left buttom no longer have extra mining/chopping speed (faster than holding space) >no more actions in the dark IN ALL 1900 HOURS FROM DS/T COMBINED, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU CAN HOLD LMB FOR FASTER MINING AND CHOP SPEED hopefully klei will revert this so I can get a taste of what it was like Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seero Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 5:12 PM, Dextops said: anything to stop the efficiency maniacs... how to say you're bad at don't starve without saying you're bad at don't starve Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrap Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Klei should revert it to faster speed and they should also make holding space be as fast as holding left click because it was kinda dumb that holding space was slower. Also would be nice if attack speed was consistent so that pvp is actually fun Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusuta Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 11:11 AM, ALCRD said: What kind of devious sadistic minds voted "It's an improvement" / "I'm fine with it." ? Wes mains who desire more suffering, of course. After all, if it doesn't take an hour to create a fire pit, what's the point? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145674-that-reduced-choppingmining-speed/page/2/#findComment-1618720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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