GamePlayer42 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 if you guys could have voted, would you add wormwood or warbuck to the game from hamlet they would have get rework of course Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Wormwood has already been added and warbuck even in his original hamlet version wasn't that interesting Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 the discussion should be wheeler vs warbucks. They could have added wheeler perks to make him interesting while also having a funny racist character with cool battlecry that really fits the dlc. Wheeler doesnt even fit aesthetically (1st time i saw her i though i activated a mod by accident..) edit. this things happens when companies value more money than their art (remember horror mutations) which is a shame but we all know how little klei valorates their dlc or the game that made them be where they are now Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathem99 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 My beautiful boy Warbucks for. The. Win! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: edit. this things happens when companies value more money than their art (remember horror mutations) I don’t understand what you mean by this sentence, you mean that horror mutations are out of place in the game? Back to main topic, Wormwood was very team friendly since it was created. As soon as I played him I thought he should be in DST (which eventually happened). Warbucks was a very boring and uninspired character that only became popular due to being deleted from the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said: I don’t understand what you mean by this sentence, you mean that horror mutations are out of place in the game? no, that they stopped doing them for a similar reason that what made them remove warbucks. They had an idea but dropped it because few complains. If you love what you do you dont abandon it because someone doesn't like it also i think was a dumb move, they could have made wagstaff more controversial so people talked about the game making it more known in the gaming community. Instead, they made a character from 0 and abandoned the dlc filled with bugs and lacking content and gameplay coeherence 22 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said: Warbucks was a very boring and uninspired his perks were so bland but the art and concept was great. They released wheleer which was the opposite, bland art and concept but cool gameplay Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: no, that they stopped doing them for a similar reason that what made them remove warbucks. They had an idea but dropped it because few complains. If you love what you do you dont abandon it because someone doesn't like it I mean what else is there to really mutate? pigs? monkeys? also if they didn't remove warbucks we wouldn't have our boy wormwood Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: the discussion should be wheeler vs warbucks. They could have added wheeler perks to make him interesting while also having a funny racist character with cool battlecry that really fits the dlc. Wheeler doesnt even fit aesthetically (1st time i saw her i though i activated a mod by accident..) edit. this things happens when companies value more money than their art (remember horror mutations) which is a shame but we all know how little klei valorates their dlc or the game that made them be where they are now now that i read that i kind of agree to that, i mean i saw warbucks as the wilson of hamlet, much like how i saw walani kind of the wilson of shipwreck, i mean warbucks for together sure could work as like a hunter or something, maybe be it wildlife as well as treasures, having chance to find extra loot from enemys where he helped killing them Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: I mean what else is there to really mutate? pigs? monkeys? also if they didn't remove warbucks we wouldn't have our boy wormwood anything that is under a moonstorm could potentially be affected, that was on klei but they said that they wont follow that route. As you can see, the birds from the moonstorm are mutations lacking details, maybe that details were lost due to the change of direction i dont think we wont have wormwood, they dont do character after character, pretty sure that wormwood was already being developed like other characters were in developing and were discarted (just see that we needed arround 10 years to see wortox in game) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just give a warcry to Wigfrid like how Warbucks had it. Problem solved Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Warbucks is a myth, he was never in the game at all.. at least not for Xbox version. Id give Klei huge props if instead of retconning the character totally out of existence, he somehow ends up being the main villain after we rescue Charlie. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Warbucks is a myth, he was never in the game at all.. at least not for Xbox version. Id give Klei huge props if instead of retconning the character totally out of existence, he somehow ends up being the main villain after we rescue Charlie. he is still in the files so in pc we can play as him with a command edit. if someone is curious, here is the trailer that showed him Q.Q https://youtu.be/EPLAv190SNc Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: If you love what you do you dont abandon it because someone doesn't like it Idc about Warbucks but this is a very silly and dangerous approach to have. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Warbucks would have needed a full rework so this question is basically just asking which sprite you like better. 3 hours ago, ShadowDuelist said: Warbucks was a very boring and uninspired character that only became popular due to being deleted from the game. I like him going dudududu daduuuu when he enters combat. It is really funny. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloakingsumo198 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Warbucks and his fans: exist DST only players: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamePlayer42 Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 thanks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, BezKa said: Idc about Warbucks but this is a very silly and dangerous approach to have. is more silly that after meetings to decide what is next in their main source of money, releasing a cinematic and developing parts of the gameplay they suddenly change their mind. But who knows, wont be the first time...and just with the excuse of "it doesnt fit dst" oh, and they notice it after that many time? it fits because they developed a way to fit it in the game, the moon. CC doesnt fit either but end up fitting because is a alien element, twins of terror fit even less but they are alien elements, moonkey island doesnt fit but is an alien element. Very bland excuse or very little focused team if they change the future of the game in such volatile ways Atleast the grotto has cool mutations (even if the mushrooms trees and molebats are nearly useless) but the artistic inconsistency between them, the moonstorm birds, weeber's moon skin and how the firsts moon arc mutations look is notorious and maybe, if they decided to complete it instead of abandoning it in the same box than the gatekeeper arc, warbucks and hamlet the inconsistentcy will bigger or smaller (already is weird to see how varglets dont mutate...) edit. oh, and i forgot what is even sillier. That non fitting mobs only appeared in the moon island until they released the moonstorm which bringed the non fitting horror creatures (the only ones that has mechanics that interact with moon shenanigans) into the main land. They changing their minds because they suddenly dont like it or they changing their minds because horror mobs that you really need to zoom in cause phobia in somd people dont talk very well about how klei approach their developing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: is more silly that after meetings to decide what is next in their main source of money, releasing a cinematic and developing parts of the gameplay they suddenly change their mind. But who knows, wont be the first time...and just with the excuse of "it doesnt fit dst" oh, and they notice it after that many time? it fits because they developed a way to fit it in the game, the moon. CC doesnt fit either but end up fitting because is a alien element, twins of terror fit even less but they are alien elements, moonkey island doesnt fit but is an alien element. Very bland excuse or very little focused team if they change the future of the game in such volatile ways Atleast the grotto has cool mutations (even if the mushrooms trees and molebats are nearly useless) but the artistic inconsistency between them, the moonstorm birds, weeber's moon skin and how the firsts moon arc mutations look is notorious and maybe, if they decided to complete it instead of abandoning it in the same box than the gatekeeper arc, warbucks and hamlet the inconsistentcy will bigger or smaller (already is weird to see how varglets dont mutate...) edit. oh, and i forgot what is even sillier. That non fitting mobs only appeared in the moon island until they released the moonstorm which bringed the non fitting horror creatures (the only ones that has mechanics that interact with moon shenanigans) into the main land. They changing their minds because they suddenly dont like it or they changing their minds because horror mobs that you really need to zoom in cause phobia in somd people dont talk very well about how klei approach their developing what are you talking about listen if you need to rant about something go for it, but that is not in any way related to what I said, so don't quote me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 klei will remove a character for being awful in most ways a character can be and people will ask for them back like they're grieving for a recently deceased relative Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I think it's very odd that the argument in favor of Warbucks is always that Klei shouldn't bend to the will of the playerbase and they're allowed to add whatever content they want... but never that they're ALLOWED to just, dislike content they made? And go back on it? During early access? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Warbucks is not a part of Klei or DS(T) he was too culturally insensitive. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Primalflower said: klei will remove a character for being awful in most ways a character can be and people will ask for them back like they're grieving for a recently deceased relative klei will remove a charismatic and funny explorer character with awful mechanic and release a bland a generic explorer character because people complaint for being offensive because they dont understand what offensive means 9 minutes ago, BezKa said: what are you talking about listen if you need to rant about something go for it, but that is not in any way related to what I said, so don't quote me. read it instead of playing the "isnt related" card when the whole wall of text is. If not, next time dont quote people if you dont want to argue about something 4 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said: I think it's very odd that the argument in favor of Warbucks is always that Klei shouldn't bend to the will of the playerbase and they're allowed to add whatever content they want... but never that they're ALLOWED to just, dislike content they made? And go back on it? During early access? is their game and they can do whatever they please with it like we can discuss what we think about their decissions and what those means in the big picture warbucks already published in trailers btw. Isnt simply a palette colour change... 3 minutes ago, . . . said: Warbucks is not a part of Klei or DS(T) he was too culturally insensitive. preciselly klei made games with adult and dark reference. Someone at klei did warbucks so how is he not part of klei? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Warbucks fans I have bad news for you about Wilton, Winnie, Wallace, Waverly, and Watricia. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: read it instead of playing the "isnt related" card when the whole wall of text is. If not, next time dont quote people if you dont want to argue about something I did read it, and it was not related to my point at all. Next time read and try to understand what I'm saying if you want to argue about something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: preciselly klei made games with adult and dark reference. Someone at klei did warbucks so how is he not part of klei? bro, i'm just gonna give you this advice to not mention or care about warbucks on this forums because it's a waste of your time it will do nothing but waste your time. with how klei acted during the removal of warbucks it shows how much integrity they have for their own creations, which is not much since they caved in almost instantly at the fear of being cancelled on twitter so just don't waste your time on it my dude there is good warbucks mods out there if you want you can find it for dst and ds, that's all i gotta say peace man Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/145296-would-you-have-prefered-wormwood-or-warbuck/#findComment-1615817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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