What your wish for next year content?

[Dunk Mujunk]

I'd like to be able to smooth the edges of cobble stone roads running diagonally across the map so I don't have to zig zag them or have the edges jagged.

[minespatch]

I hope the otters become real next year.

[Iino]

Late to the party but more extreme weather starting the second year (blizzards and floods and fire tornados etc.) would be nice, make me scared of the constant again y'know?

[Mike23Ua]

13 hours ago, hhh2 said:

To think this game is nearly 7 years old. They were still updating singleplayer back then.

Can we stop bringing up how old DST is? You make it sound like it’s a dying dead game, but yet… Klei literally took the time to rework every single last playable character with brand new abilities and personality features that in all honesty: Wouldve NORMALLY been reserved for a full fledge DS 2 Sequel. They’ve added Boating, Fishing, and more complex Farming. All of these features would’ve made the game “New” so instead of saying “Bruh DST is 7 years old” let’s just start calling it what it REALLY is..

DS 2- and my books, DS 2 doesn’t officially have its birthdate until the full cast of characters have unique reworks. I highly highly doubt Klei would give them all these new abilities and then just say okay we done with DST.

21 hours ago, Nefcairon said:

Something that really changes for people like me (which are the majority) who have almost not seen any change through all the updates because the never played a world so long that they notice anything different.

Yes, I have noticed the character updates. But I have not even seen lunar island yet as I haven't been in a world for a third year.

Uhh.. Why does it take you 3 game years to find lunar island? I can get there in the first few game days, all you really need is a Grass Raft and a Driftwood Oar.. don’t forget to pick up and read those glass message in a bottle jars, they’ll reveal map locations for Lunar, Pearls & Crab King.

I have a harder time finding Water Logged biome or Moon Quay then I do Lunar.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

57 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

don’t forget to pick up and read those glass message in a bottle jars, they’ll reveal map locations for Lunar, Pearls & Crab King

they only reveal pearls location and treasures

to reveal CK and lunar island you need a structure which recipe is in the archives 

[Juanasdf]

A new boss and most importantly more things to farm!

This year we had Tallbird farming (which has been one of my favorite additions this year), an easier and more reliable beard + NM farm with maxwell (before that I used to do giant monkey roads on the ruins), fish farms with Wicker and we even got banana bushes and reeds with the moonquay update.

+ gekko farms got better with monkeys that can pick up all the loot...

If i had to choose one, I'd love to be able to farm sea weeds more easily.

[Terra_Zina]

On 12/5/2022 at 12:04 AM, Pennies said:

I’m kind of new to the game

 

On 12/5/2022 at 12:04 AM, Pennies said:

(I started after the Webber rework)

Then you don't know how boring the game was before these updates. What you see on YT might seem fun, but imagine playing that exact game, for years. With only a small update sprinkled in here and there, between months of absence. A large update at the time was a new optional boss, not counting caves which was the largest. The coolest thing we got was Forge (which is still the coolest thing we got).

The game lived on thoughts and prayers until the character refreshes was announced. Boy was that a day to rejoice, I still remember it.

The thing I'll give you though, is that it was easy for us to get into the game because we got plenty of time to take in what the game had to offer. When you join during a time of change, you don't get a lot of time to enjoy the game for what it is. For me, it's the same old game with tons of new toys. But for you, it might be a constantly changing mess.

[lowercase skye]

6 hours ago, Terra_Zina said:

Then you don't know how boring the game was before these updates. What you see on YT might seem fun, but imagine playing that exact game, for years. With only a small update sprinkled in here and there, between months of absence. A large update at the time was a new optional boss, not counting caves which was the largest.

Yeah it's weird, the ANR updates seem to be romanticized a TON in the modern times but dang. Not only did large updates just contain a new optional raid boss and handful of small tools like fences, but you'd also likely have to wait MONTHS more for those bosses to even receive all the drops they have now, and by then they'd have been buffed like 5 times because Glermz thought they were too easy with a server full of Wolfgangs. Poor Bee Queen, even if the community opinion has shifted on her and people seem to love her now, was added as a boss with only Jellybeans as loot and had to have the crown added later and Bundling Wrap blueprint given to her months later (while it was previously a science machine crafting recipe!), and by that point she'd gotten the honey trail, spawns way more Grumble Bees, and had her stats retuned twice (because Glermz thought she was too easy with a server full of Wolfgangs.) Not to mention you had overall way less options for fighting her: basically just the content that existed in RoG and then like... 2017 Beefalo and the catcoon whip.

As someone who's been here since before skins were even added, it's like night and day looking at the A New Reign update log and comparing its frequency and amount of content to even just a few months of Klei's more recent updates.

[Hornete]

13 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said:

people seem to love her now

I think opinion is (finally) changing back. I see a lot more people realizing how awful of a boss she is to fight compared to the appraisal years back.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

33 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said:

Yeah it's weird, the ANR updates seem to be romanticized a TON in the modern times but dang. Not only did large updates just contain a new optional raid boss and handful of small tools like fences, but you'd also likely have to wait MONTHS more for those bosses to even receive all the drops they have now, and by then they'd have been buffed like 5 times because Glermz thought they were too easy with a server full of Wolfgangs. Poor Bee Queen, even if the community opinion has shifted on her and people seem to love her now, was added as a boss with only Jellybeans as loot and had to have the crown added later and Bundling Wrap blueprint given to her months later (while it was previously a science machine crafting recipe!), and by that point she'd gotten the honey trail, spawns way more Grumble Bees, and had her stats retuned twice (because Glermz thought she was too easy with a server full of Wolfgangs.) Not to mention you had overall way less options for fighting her: basically just the content that existed in RoG and then like... 2017 Beefalo and the catcoon whip.

As someone who's been here since before skins were even added, it's like night and day looking at the A New Reign update log and comparing its frequency and amount of content to even just a few months of Klei's more recent updates.

the current BQ is easy with just 1 wolf...and the loot correspond with how strong it is. Other topic will be if is fun or not or skilled or not

edit: i think they were focused in ONI(?) and for that they didnt release that much content for dst

[dois raios]

53 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said:

Yeah it's weird, the ANR updates seem to be romanticized a TON in the modern times but dang. Not only did large updates just contain a new optional raid boss and handful of small tools like fences, but you'd also likely have to wait MONTHS more for those bosses to even receive all the drops they have now, and by then they'd have been buffed like 5 times because Glermz thought they were too easy with a server full of Wolfgangs. Poor Bee Queen, even if the community opinion has shifted on her and people seem to love her now, was added as a boss with only Jellybeans as loot and had to have the crown added later and Bundling Wrap blueprint given to her months later (while it was previously a science machine crafting recipe!), and by that point she'd gotten the honey trail, spawns way more Grumble Bees, and had her stats retuned twice (because Glermz thought she was too easy with a server full of Wolfgangs.) Not to mention you had overall way less options for fighting her: basically just the content that existed in RoG and then like... 2017 Beefalo and the catcoon whip.

As someone who's been here since before skins were even added, it's like night and day looking at the A New Reign update log and comparing its frequency and amount of content to even just a few months of Klei's more recent updates.

thats a lot of informations, I didnt know nothing about this.

bro, it is kinda hard to believe that glermz did such a questionable statement like this, who test a boss with a server full of wolfgangs?

It feels wrong testing a boss as wolfgang even solo lol

 

my opinion is that bee queen is easy with pan flutes, besides that, I dont know any other way (except characters specifs) to kill her without spending way too much time fighting, so, when endless servers existed, mandrakes almost always were gone (eating, someone leaving with it in the inv, madrake soup, etc), so bee queen were always a pain to kill. also, if you have like 4 people in the server, she dies in a few minutes, however, solo is just pain and more pain (if you have no pan flutes).

[Porkus]

A Wilson Rework That Doesn't Ruin His Character. I Just Want Wilson To Stay The Same. 

[Pennies]

13 hours ago, Terra_Zina said:

 

Then you don't know how boring the game was before these updates. What you see on YT might seem fun, but imagine playing that exact game, for years. With only a small update sprinkled in here and there, between months of absence. A large update at the time was a new optional boss, not counting caves which was the largest. The coolest thing we got was Forge (which is still the coolest thing we got).

The game lived on thoughts and prayers until the character refreshes was announced. Boy was that a day to rejoice, I still remember it.

The thing I'll give you though, is that it was easy for us to get into the game because we got plenty of time to take in what the game had to offer. When you join during a time of change, you don't get a lot of time to enjoy the game for what it is. For me, it's the same old game with tons of new toys. But for you, it might be a constantly changing mess.

I don’t know what you mean when you say it might seem fun on yt but not when played, all the content are the same it’s just I’m watching. I don’t get bored of the same good quality board game because my friends made the game fun for me like my friends make the game fun for me now. All the stellar parts of dst were already within the game before these new updates (return of them). But I am just pointing out that these past few updates are not well thought out in my opinion. For me it seems like each new update is less about quality than it is about getting as many updates out as possible to make money.

It’s not just that it’s a constantly changing mess for me, looking into the future, I have a lot of doubts about why these updates are coming out so fast with so many bugs that every new beta crashes my game. Something isn’t healthy with what klei is doing now. 

[Guille6785]

13 hours ago, Terra_Zina said:

 

Then you don't know how boring the game was before these updates.

I remember sinking thousands of hours into RoG back in 2015, sprinkle multiplayer onto that, a bunch of highly requested additions, qol features, more characters and more content in the form of items and bosses and you get post-ANR DST

everything that makes DST good rn was already present 5 years ago, I can guarantee the game was not boring back then

13 hours ago, Terra_Zina said:

 

What you see on YT might seem fun

???? I genuinely don't understand this, all of the content that was back then can still be played now (albeit slightly differently), idk what you mean by "it looks fun but it's actually not"

I wonder if you're referring to joeshmo's speedruns because that's the only thing I remember got hundreds of thousands of views back then and that's a really weird point to make

13 hours ago, Terra_Zina said:

 

imagine playing that exact game, for years. With only a small update sprinkled in here and there, between months of absence. A large update at the time was a new optional boss, not counting caves which was the largest. The coolest thing we got was Forge (which is still the coolest thing we got).

The game lived on thoughts and prayers until the character refreshes was announced. Boy was that a day to rejoice, I still remember it.

frequency of updates is completely independent of the quality of their additions, this doesn't do anything at all to address the argument that the frequent overwhelming update cycle keeps adding half baked nothingburgers that just make the game worse in a lot of cases

7 hours ago, sylvia wander o said:

Yeah it's weird, the ANR updates seem to be romanticized a TON in the modern times but dang. Not only did large updates just contain a new optional raid boss and handful of small tools like fences, but you'd also likely have to wait MONTHS more for those bosses to even receive all the drops they have now, and by then they'd have been buffed like 5 times because Glermz thought they were too easy with a server full of Wolfgangs. Poor Bee Queen, even if the community opinion has shifted on her and people seem to love her now, was added as a boss with only Jellybeans as loot and had to have the crown added later and Bundling Wrap blueprint given to her months later (while it was previously a science machine crafting recipe!), and by that point she'd gotten the honey trail, spawns way more Grumble Bees, and had her stats retuned twice (because Glermz thought she was too easy with a server full of Wolfgangs.)

again, your entire argument is a strawman

1. nobody ever said ANR was perfect, people argue that it was better than rot, nobody ever claimed that anr was flawless

2. that's just straight up whataboutism, even if ANR sucked that completely ignores the central argument that the current updates are bad, two different things can be bad and that doesn't make one of those things good

again, frequency of updates has nothing to do with the quality of their additions; yeah you can say there were months between ANR updates but the end result changed DST forever for the better, we can complain about the raid bosses all day long but the truth is they are a very well liked part of the game and pretty much everyone you and I know (who isn't still learning to play) has fought raid bosses and almost certainly enjoyed at least one of those fights, be it with other players or solo, raid bosses offer versatility and different ways to play the game

compare that to RoT content, prior to the celestial champion almost no one I knew ever bothered to go on the ocean at all, and post-CC I'd bet most people only ever do pearl's quests to eventually get to CC, I know almost nobody who willingly goes out of their way in their regular playthroughs to do things like fishing, crab king, pearl's quests, go to lunar, etc. simply because they want to and not because they need to to progress a quest or because they want an easy food source so they just go one time to lunar and never come back

7 hours ago, sylvia wander o said:

 Not to mention you had overall way less options for fighting her: basically just the content that existed in RoG and then like... 2017 Beefalo and the catcoon whip.

except for some character specific strats like merms and jelly the only bq strat I could think of that used RoT content was the boat and oh oops look it got removed lmfao guess we're back to square one

7 hours ago, sylvia wander o said:

As someone who's been here since before skins were even added, it's like night and day looking at the A New Reign update log and comparing its frequency and amount of content to even just a few months of Klei's more recent updates.

quality =/= quantity

also you defending ocean content with your only arguments being "I've been playing for a long time and ANR sucked" won't magically ignore the countless problems with recent changes people have raised in other threads

[lowercase skye]

27 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

I know almost nobody who willingly goes out of their way in their regular playthroughs to do things like fishing, crab king, pearl's quests, go to lunar, etc.

I think it would be an overall good thing to expand your social circle.

[Primalflower]

anr kinda blew. i'll be honest. i'm grateful for taming beefalo but. man. RoT blew it out of the water.

[lowercase skye]

1 minute ago, Primalflower said:

anr kinda blew. i'll be honest. i'm grateful for taming beefalo but. man. RoT blew it out of the water.

I think they retroactively attributed it to ANR, but Beefalo taming was actually added quite a while before it iirc.

[Porkus]

10 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said:

I think it would be an overall good thing to expand your social circle.

I don't think that really has anything to do with social circle, have spent a lot of time on Kleicord and DS/T Discord and some on forums, have seen practically no one who does ocean fishing. I think only people who I ever see do it are megabasers trying to catch heavy fish to display. I also am really curious if you know people who go to do Crab King and Pearl's Quests without the larger goal of fighting Celestial Champion considering the fight is so resource intensive and has such a long setup with practically no reward. Again, only people I've really seen do that are megabasers who are showing off new content, people doing all the quests just to fight Crab King on its own is really rare.

3 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said:

I think they retroactively attributed it to ANR, but Beefalo taming was added quite a while before it iirc.

tbh I thought they were added earlier too but I guess now

Oh also for next year content I'm hoping for a new overworld non ocean biome, I think it would be really cool to be able to be able to access something new right from the start. Not sure the last time we got one but I think at least 6 years now. 

[lowercase skye]

7 minutes ago, Third Porkus said:

I also am really curious if you know people who go to do Crab King and Pearl's Quests without the larger goal of fighting Celestial Champion

I can't ever coordinate a group of players for Crab King, but I absolutely do Pearl's quests every time I play, for the purpose of ocean fishing even (I want those stupefying lures!!)

[Primalflower]

almost all of my friends around me participate in ocean stuff all the time. social circles and such very much matter.

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I also am really curious if you know people who go to do Crab King and Pearl's Quests without the larger goal of fighting Celestial Champion considering the fight is so resource intensive and has such a long setup with practically no reward.

i do that a lot! pearls quest is pretty easy to do especially if you spend a lot of time doing sunken treasure stuff, but i don't really go for celestial champion pretty much ever

[DVGMedia]

15 minutes ago, Primalflower said:

anr kinda blew. i'll be honest. i'm grateful for taming beefalo but. man. RoT blew it out of the water.

I think honestly just the fact the this "new content" Is so far out of the way for the player to explore.
You have to know that these things exist. Normally I would push for exploration. Since that was kind of the original start for don't starve.
The way that RoT fails is that its not in a place that a normal player would think of trying to access.
A normal player would walk around on land for majority of the gameplay
This is why a new reign was so interesting because it gave objects the player would see.
And caused the players curiousity to be peaked.
"Oh I found I giant beehive Whats up with that?"
"Oh I found a broken chess piece Maybe its for that statue I saw earlier" Its all stuff the player physically sees but may not know the answers to but it makes the player want to know more about it. This ocean stuff is just so far out of the players mind that many don't explore it.

Even caves is right there in the players face. like "Hey IM a giant rock you have never seen before mine me!!!!"

Alot of the ocean content is Badly implemented even in a game development sense.
There is nothing pushing the player to go out there Because the player was originally not supposed to go out there.
The ocean was a border.
 

 

[Primalflower]

1 minute ago, DVGMedia said:

I think honestly just the fact the this "new content" Is so far out of the way for the player to explore.

grass raft

[Porkus]

Just now, Primalflower said:

grass raft

I may be stupid but wasn't that added after RoT finished? I was thinking we were talking about these updates just in their finished state, so like ANR back in 2017 around Forge time and RoT at the end. Grass raft may have been added in RoT though I lost all sense of time and don't remember

[lowercase skye]

1 minute ago, DVGMedia said:

I think honestly just the fact the this "new content" Is so far out of the way for the player to explore.

It's less out of the way than caves, even, it's all around you and has its own crafting tab to push the player towards its existence (similarly to beefalo taming)

3 minutes ago, DVGMedia said:

Alot of the ocean content is Badly implemented even in a game development sense.
There is nothing pushing the player to go out there Because the player was originally not supposed to go out there.
The ocean was a border.

?? This makes no sense. The surface was getting super cluttered but they wanted to put more there, so they put it all in the other 80% of the map that was unused, which has many benefits like it being all around you, driftwood/bottles at the shore pushing players out there, the open design of it making it super different to explore than the mainland, etc.

[HowlVoid]

Pearl was missed potential imo, but an npc is a tricky thing to pull off in this game.

Since some people brought up CK, I must say, it's baffing it has remained the way it is up to now. Why does he still not drop good loot for his difficulty level?

A lot of bosses need tuning and Klei moves at a snails pace when changing existing things. I wish they could get 1-2 people to focus on bosses for a few updates.

Hopefully once all characters are done we see some boss improvements as that is sure to open up some wiggle room for them.

Other than that, Wormwood has been powered crept on a bit (Ik other characters are in the same boat but I speak from experience with wormwood). Id really appreciate improvements to make him stand out in a distinguishable way (other than farming). His interaction with plant life is still lacking.