LiamAshvinn001 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 So the new rework animation just dropped, and there was a surprisingly large amount of lore for a character rework, so heres some speculation and stuff I noticed! First, how did Wicker get the library in the first place? I have 2 theories. Do note most of what I say is more speculation. First, she simply made it herself or its her family property. I believe that the Library being given to Wicker is more likely, since I dont see how Wicker got the money for all the books and to build it, since if she had the money for that, she would be able to afford better clothes, and she wouldnt spend her time tending to the library. What I think is more likely is that the library was given to her from her family, which can be supported by the potraits in the library, though it could just be of famous authors. Theres also the small detail she had to go through some files to recognise the terrorbeak, which wouldnt make sense if she had studied it herself in the past. But what I think is more interesting is her source of her shadowy magic, but first lets look at her Pelontrix summoning basement. First off, theres a weird amount of Eye imagery, from the amulet to the floor of this room, which reminds me a lot of the mural eye from the Metheus Puzzles. My theory is that Wicker's shadow knowledge came from her family, whos studying the secrets of the Constant and Them, but for now lets move on to some small details a lot of ppl seemed to have miss. First, Wicker probably had some knowledge on the Survivors' vanishing, since the gramaphone is locked behind a case, but more interesting is the bowl and spoon at the right of the room. Why? Because it is very similiar to the bowl in Warly's animation. Thats all I noticed from the short, what do you guys think? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimpz Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Yo hear me out! Wagstaff knows all the Constanstuff from Wickerbottom because they used to date each other. They seem to be around the same age, and nobody wants to be alone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 ...oh. Didn't notice this before. The grey stone within the eye on the floor has similar brick-like detail lines to grey Ruins stone. The swirly segments have that detail underneath, as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 6 hours ago, LiamAshvinn001 said: maybe is just a coincidence... but that symbol in the factory, wagstaff's door and the radio is kinda similar to the symbols in the floor and lamps in wicker's secret room Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: maybe is just a coincidence... but that symbol in the factory, wagstaff's door and the radio is kinda similar to the symbols in the floor and lamps in wicker's secret room It seemed like a clock with a peculiar style, Wilson's attic had exactly the same thing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 10 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: maybe is just a coincidence... but that symbol in the factory, wagstaff's door and the radio is kinda similar to the symbols in the floor and lamps in wicker's secret room I would be inclined to believe that, but Klei uses weird loops like that sometimes in their art. You can see it in the game's title, Wortox's horns, Wanda's clocks and a lot more. I guess its possible they have a similiarity, but its unlikely Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 I curious about Wickerbottom owning the monkey's paw as well. A hallowed nights trinket. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenpelz Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 We should really centralise all of the theories into one thread though... theres like 3 right now Also don't forget that one of DSTs trademark symbols is the (imperfectly curved) portal spiral. There are spirals in every short, in the fences, the windows, the mirrors or whatever. Some of the spirals have meanings, but some are a purely aestethic choice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemporaryMan Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 22 hours ago, LiamAshvinn001 said: First, how did Wicker get the library in the first place? It's the old New York State Library, burned down in 1911. It's government property; she's a government employee. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, TemporaryMan said: It's the old New York State Library, burned down in 1911. It's government property; she's a government employee. Oh my bad, I thought it was just a regular building, i didnt know it was an actual real life building. If thats the case that makes more sense Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxel Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 3 hours ago, TemporaryMan said: It's the old New York State Library, burned down in 1911. It's government property; she's a government employee. I think Mr Wickerbottom was the executive and Mrs Wicker had gotten the position after he passed away. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atkvin Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Had this been Wickerbottom's personal little eccentric archive of occult secrets, or even moreso a family heirloom of knowledge, she/her family would surely keep it in her/their own residence(s) rather than stowed away in the public library where it would be at far greater risk of someday being discovered or exposed by wear and tear of the establishment, especially given Wickerbottom's own old age to watch over it. Imo this archive of hidden knowledge with spooky collected artifacts must either have been passed down from a previous owner of the library - or more likely, as was everyone's first hunch, a secret society thing from the medallion used to open the hidden door and recurring eye symbol. But then that question opens up the rabbit hole of who else (relevant and part of the cast) could have been in that secret society! (Love the irony of the character who always has her eyes closed being in the cult that has a eye as its symbol, gives me Gravity Falls vibes.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142381-wicker-animation-analysis/#findComment-1592394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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