reallychina Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 This is a mod at the moment but please make it standard game. This is such a huge QOL. There's nothing worse than having to unbundle and rebundle just to check stuff. Or having to organize intricate storage systems to keep track of bundles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 If you can't remember then your character can't remember. Try having your character cast a "detect item" spell. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Cheggf said: If you can't remember then your character can't remember. Try having your character cast a "detect item" spell. I cant remember exactly what items, how many, and what durability they have when stored in chests, ice or salt boxes. However i can open those to check. There is no reason for bundled supplies to be black boxes and cost so much grass, time, planning and clicks to manage. Having a cost to use the content is fine. To check it, it's not. What would it be like if you had to use a log each time you opened a chest and an ice each time you used the fridge? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanBean150 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Cheggf said: If you can't remember then your character can't remember. I feel like my character could reasonably figure out the difference between a bundle full of meaty stews, a bundle containing 4 live birds, and a bundle with 160 rocks inside. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannoli Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Cheggf said: If you can't remember then your character can't remember. This don't make any sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 This is how Bundle/Gift work, It has no need to be changed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartzBeam Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Cassielu said: This is how Bundle/Gift work, It has no need to be changed. Would you like some fries with that thought-terminating cliche? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOT Tuja Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I would prefer it if you could write a note on it, similar to signs, but I wouldn't complain if this is how the issue gets addressed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinancoTheBest Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, BOT Tuja said: I would prefer it if you could write a note on it, similar to signs, but I wouldn't complain if this is how the issue gets addressed. Would be pretty cool if you could make naming tags, like minisigns by turning one papyrus into four useable tags that you can write notes on like a sign/directional sign and then apply to a gift/bundled supplies to add a "read" right click command. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartzBeam Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, SinancoTheBest said: Would be pretty cool if you could make naming tags, like minisigns by turning one papyrus into four useable tags that you can write notes on like a sign/directional sign and then apply to a gift/bundled supplies to add a "read" right click command. That would be about perfect, provided that the tags dropped intact when you opened the bundle. Having to make a new one every time would be hell. Also, a "read" command on right click would probably not be possible, since that is already reserved for unwrapping the bundle. But the tag could directly alter the name of the specific bundle. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 from those pictures I can tell you also need an automatic base cleaner Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Well-met said: from those pictures I can tell you also need an automatic base cleaner its fine, i prefer to setup and farm other stuff first, then mind about base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregu Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 That's the whole gimmick of the bundling wrap, though. A lot of characters in their quotes mention 'hiding, not remembering whats inside, etc.' when they examine it. It's up to the player to create labels or some method of memorization for the bundled supplies. the minisign is more than enough for that. I dont consider having more than 1 bundled supplise in your inventory efficient most the time (unless you're transporting a ton of materials). They probably arent even labelable or worth labelling because of the slick surface of wax paper and considering it's one-use for a set of items. If you're arguing for the ability of 'peeking inside' the bundling wrap, it would probably break the air-tight seal of it or whatever and make stuff spoil again, realistically. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 hours ago, reallychina said: I cant remember exactly what items, how many, and what durability they have when stored in chests, ice or salt boxes. However i can open those to check You can open the bundling wrap to check too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, Cheggf said: You can open the bundling wrap to check too. no way, i should delete this topic then 3 hours ago, oregu said: That's the whole gimmick of the bundling wrap, though. A lot of characters in their quotes mention 'hiding, not remembering whats inside, etc.' when they examine it. It's up to the player to create labels or some method of memorization for the bundled supplies. the minisign is more than enough for that. I dont consider having more than 1 bundled supplise in your inventory efficient most the time (unless you're transporting a ton of materials). They probably arent even labelable or worth labelling because of the slick surface of wax paper and considering it's one-use for a set of items. If you're arguing for the ability of 'peeking inside' the bundling wrap, it would probably break the air-tight seal of it or whatever and make stuff spoil again, realistically. realistically you couldnt bundle living animals or hundreds of rocks. the point is not to open to peek, but to label them when wrapped, like you would label a jar Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapoLover Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I think that character could have different quotes for bundles. Like "this one is too heavy" when it's filled with logs, rocks, walls... construction materials. Or "smells like food" when it's filled with food. I don't know what are the things that people usually wrap, I don't use it so much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 8:23 AM, Cheggf said: If you can't remember then your character can't remember. this is a really silly thing to say. dissonance between what the player knows and what their character knows is a normal thing in videogames Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvu2bits Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 8:23 AM, Cheggf said: If you can't remember then your character can't remember. Try having your character cast a "detect item" spell. In real life you don't have a meter to check precisely how alive you are. I think that the convenience of being able to check greatly outweighs any sort of desire for "realism" On 3/22/2022 at 12:10 PM, SinancoTheBest said: Would be pretty cool if you could make naming tags, like minisigns by turning one papyrus into four useable tags that you can write notes on like a sign/directional sign and then apply to a gift/bundled supplies to add a "read" right click command. Also, while talking about naming tags, I'd love this especially for Wanda. Currently we have to remember where each individual Backtrek Watch leads and it's not that great. I'd like to think that a renamed item would have its name displayed in a different color (of your choice) in full size, with the item's real name underneath but smaller Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, 0bit said: n real life you don't have a meter to check precisely how alive you are. In real life you can feel pain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip_G Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Tried using different skins for it? Bundling wrap and the other christmas wrapping stuff with petals has different skins too... So you can at least divide it into groups by the look of it. Also putting packages into corresponding chests and so on... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Filip_G said: Tried using different skins for it? Bundling wrap and the other christmas wrapping stuff with petals has different skins too... So you can at least divide it into groups by the look of it. Also putting packages into corresponding chests and so on... still pain to do with full people on the server Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonz Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, prettynuggets said: still pain to do with full people on the server Once I placed 3 wraps each under signs saying what's inside. Inside was 12 stack of seeds 1 of each kind except eggplant and durian. Next morning i joined I've found someone unwrapped two of them leaving 8 stacks of seeds to turn into rot. If they could check what's inside before opening them they most likely wouldn't open any since they left one unopened. I have nothing against being able to peek what's inside. On 3/22/2022 at 4:30 PM, Cassielu said: This is how Bundle/Gift work, It has no need to be changed. What's the point of leaving comment like this? Quote This is how Bundle/Gift work Is it not clear to you OP knows how it works? Quote It has no need to be changed. There's also no need for you to play video games but you do it anyway probably for the same reason. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Wonz said: I have nothing against being able to peek what's inside. It wouldn't technically be "peeking", just a proper "label". Any sane person would label an opaque package one way or the other. I don't mind not being able to see the freshness of the items, but labeling what items are inside and how many is common sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonz Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, reallychina said: It wouldn't technically be "peeking", just a proper "label". Any sane person would label a package one way or the other. I don't mind not being able to see the freshness of the items, but labeling what items are inside and how many is common sense. Yea makes sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittem Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 link to mod? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138476-hovering-over-bundled-supplies-shows-content/#findComment-1551612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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