The venting thread

[HowlVoid]

46 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

I need to go to the bathroom every 20-40 minutes or so, global pause was a god send feature for people like myself with over-reactive bladders, Cookie Cutters Respawn rate is ridiculously fast, that’s all there is to it.. if you kill them all out- they should stay dead for awhile. 

I gave you a stomach react, but just pretend its a bladder react.

[ALCRD]

I f*****g hate bats.

No not the Batlisks they are annoying on their own but are easy to deal with.

I am talking about Hallowed Nights bats.

The frequency of them appearing needs to be toned the f**k down. They keep poping up every 2-4 trees i chop every single god damn time.

Nothing better than losing sanity while chopping trees as a non Wormwood player .. ugh!

[maradyne]

14 hours ago, minespatch said:

 

This feels familiar...

[Mike23Ua]

31 minutes ago, ALCRD said:

I f*****g hate bats.

No not the Batlisks they are annoying on their own but are easy to deal with.

I am talking about Hallowed Nights bats.

The frequency of them appearing needs to be toned the f**k down. They keep poping up every 2-4 trees i chop every single god damn time.

Nothing better than losing sanity while chopping trees as a non Wormwood player .. ugh!

I actually don’t have a problem with the bats, they remind me the starting theme of Scooby-Doo, and for that reason alone I just love them.. someone during the Hallowed Nights art submissions actually drew up a set of Scooby Doo skins, those were Awesome. 

What I DON’T like about Hallowed Nights is that Moleworm will steal the trinkets you elect NOT to give to pig king to make your base look spooky.. 

Below is my 2021 Halloween world build and I can not begin to tell you how many times I screamed in pure frustration when my science lab bottles or crystal balls were stollen.. I HATE Moleworm (they even stole my Thermal Stone in Solo DS once) 

They also have a really bad habit of falling on your head in Caves, evil little suckers.

[Maxposting]

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

I actually don’t have a problem with the bats.

You main wendy.

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

You main wendy.

I main Wendy but you show a game clip of me playing as Wurt  I also never swap characters using the florid portal because I feel like that’s cheating- watch the video, the portal is NOT upgraded.  

[Bering]

On 11/10/2021 at 12:37 AM, Geo95 said:

I'm also sick and tired of seeing the same items getting skins. Sure, variety is appreciated, but I don't think we need 4 shadow manipulator skins when there are many items that have none.

 

Shadow manipulators are sacred)) 
But I agree, there are quite a few items in need of skins.

[Wendy C.]

On 11/8/2021 at 4:52 PM, Superlucas1231 said:

I have a shopping list of things to vent about this game and this is legit one of the things that bother me the most.

Wendy is just...bad. Like really bad and overrated. Both gameplay-wise and personality-wise.

Gameplay-wise, she throws literally one of the biggest aspects of Don't Starve out the window; the learning experience. While most other characters aren't too extreme with gimmicks, you still had to play some-what differently and learn the game in order to survive. Warly can't over-rely on the same 1-3 foods and actually needs to experiment with the crock-pot system. Wormwood (at least before RWYS) had very limited healing options and can't just Unga Bunga everything. Even with cases like Webber, where you don't have to use spiders, you still can't rely on pigs and changes the gameplay at least somewhat compared to most other characters. 

Then you have Wendy. She can summon Abby...for free. Abby can be upgraded...for free.  Wendy can deal more dmg to mobs that Abby attacks...for free. What happens when Abby dies?...you only lose 30 of your 200 sanity - which, unlike Walter and Wickerbottom, you can regain it normally without any extra roadblocks. Did i mention you also restore 15 sanity when summoning Abby (which you can do ANYTIME after she dies) which means you actually lose 3 petals worth of sanity? Did I also mention you can make a structure that lets you heal sanity for the cost of next-to-nothing? Did I also mention that Wendy has resistance to the majority of insanity auras? DID I ALSO MENTION THAT SANITY IS BARELY MORE OF A THREAT TO HER THAN WITH LITERALLY ANY OTHER CHARACTER?

Too much of her character is the game giving you stuff for little to no cost and having little to no risk with it. Even the Pipspooks sucks because they're literally just a fetch quest in the least hostile environment in the game (and how Abby can hard counter almost any threat you encounter within said biome). Never mind that her downside is only going to be felt when she's insane (which the games give way too many tools for her to counter), or if Abby is dead (which is very easy to prevent).

You have a character with a unique gimmick, but not do anything with it outside of making her handhold-y in a game that is popular for not being handhold-y.

And then you have her personality 

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Oh my god do I hate Wendy's personality. 1000 times more than I hate her gameplay.

So you have this character that is supposed to be creepy and morbid. That’s fine. She makes suicide jokes. Multiple of them.Really. Fine. She jokes about murdering her friend. Fine... not a huge problem because she is just a very edgy character that’s not supposed to be taken seriously.

But for whatever reason, she is supposed to be taken seriously. With things like her character refresh trailer and some of her quotes, she’s trying to come off as this tragic, depressed little girl that’s sad about her sister dying.  

That ruins her whole character. she ends up coming off as a stereotype of depressed people being emo/edgy and its played seriously. it makes the jokes horrible unfunny, her "edgy" quotes a lot more obnoxious, and makes it extremely hard to feel bad for her when she casually jokes about murdering her friends for no reason.

I could maybe see the argument of "Wendy acts like this because she became way too fixated on Abby's death, causing her to become more nihilistic of life and to accept that death is inevitable." or something. but like, then why does she just casually make jokes about killing her friends while also getting really upset whenever Abby dies? Why does she even try to hide her happiness in some quotes but not in others? she just comes so artificial and hard to feel bad for because she tries so hard to come off as being edgy.

I don't even want to give her a chance and reread her quotes and change my opinion because a chunk of her fandom treats her like this "uwuwuw quirky expersso depresso uwuwuwuwuwuwu" character. I just personally hate it when depression (or any mental illness) is played off like a personality trait. 

There's still so much I don't like about Wendy but this post is already long and really over-dramatic and I really don't feel like typing more.

 

Hmph.
I would try to explain, but it's ultimately irrelevant. You've already said you're never going to change (despite being wrong a number of times), so there's nothing to gain from trying to encourage rethinking. 
Though, perhaps this explains a few things about how people perceive me; I receive nothing but disdain (at best) and resolute hatred (at worst) no matter where I go. Even the most mundane of conversations I try to engage with eventually devolve into insulting me or something I care about. But why am I continually surprised by this? It's just the Universe driving home the point that everything is destined for misery and I am undeserving of the few short glimpses of happiness I gain (those short glimpses also only work to give you hope, which will then be crushed under the weight of reality all the harder). 
I don't know what I'm writing about any more since I've digressed so much, but this is a vent-thread so I don't care. 
I wouldn't care either way but at least I'm justified in not-caring, here. 

In summary: 
Everything I truly cared about was taken from me long ago. Joy is temporary, suffering lasts for Eternity. 
Mock the pain to numb it. Joke about death to save yourself from getting too attached to people you will eventually lose. 
The Universe is unkind and apathetic to  human suffering. Nothing you build will last forever and when you die you will be entirely forgotten one day; as though you never existed. This is the reality we all face every single day, I'm the only one who regularly acknowledges it. 
And finally, Not All Deaths Are The Same. 

On 11/10/2021 at 2:23 AM, QuartzBeam said:

Alchemy Engine and Science Machine . . . have a single skin each.

Alchemy Engine has two skins. 

[BezKa]

Ur all sus

[Dextops]

37 minutes ago, Wendy C. said:

Everything I truly cared about was taken from me long ago. Joy is temporary, suffering lasts for Eternity. 
Mock the pain to numb it. Joke about death to save yourself from getting too attached to people you will eventually lose. 
The Universe is unkind and apathetic to  human suffering. Nothing you build will last forever and when you die you will be entirely forgotten one day; as though you never existed. This is the reality we all face every single day, I'm the only one who regularly acknowledges it. 

i don't necessarily agree with this pessimistic point of view. Saying joy is temporary and suffering is eternal is an oxymoron to me since joy is what stops suffering meaning suffering is not constantly happening. And the second thing is even if you are forgotten even if you will be forgotten crumble away and die blow away in the dust its better to make a lasting impact on the people you know and leave this world better than you left it no matter how simple if you can do that then in my mind you have succeeded in life though i would like to write more i don't have the time for it just know your view of the world isn't concrete and suffering isn't eternal

[Wendy C.]

10 minutes ago, Dextops said:

Saying joy is temporary and suffering is eternal is an oxymoron to me since joy is what stops suffering meaning suffering is not constantly happening. 

Joy is not the absence of suffering. If you injure yourself during a happy day, and you can be in pain while still generally happy with your life. Emotions and feelings are not mutually exclusive; you can feel contradicting emotions at the same time. 
In this, Pain is absolutely eternal. You are slowly dying from the moment you were born. Every cell in your body fights a losing battle of keeping you functional for as long as possible. To exist, you must kill and consume other living things. We must give birth to more of ourselves to vicariously extend our lives upon our children, though they will die as well one day. You must create life knowing full well that there is a 100% it will be in pain and ultimately die; in that, even the act of giving birth is cruel. 
Some of the greatest acts suffering are done in the name of Joy or Love, so pain is truly eternal; above all other emotions and experiences, there is always pain. 

[Mike23Ua]

Can I get angry about how even on my Xbox Series S console how ridiculously long loading can sometimes take when rolling back a world save?- I’ve actually had worlds get deleted because while trying to roll back the countdown timer expired and instead deletes the world- this is a very annoying Bug and in fact anytime my game gets hung up in this longer then usual loading screen and the countdown timer till my world is deleted is still heard ticking I will instead exit to Xbox dashboard, relaunch the game and select one of the rollback points from there (yes it’s faster)

Or how when I tell my world to spawn MORE Merm Houses I end up with LESS (there’s literally only one in my entire swamp and I had to hand craft the other as Wurt) now unless this is some kind of inside developer joke where Less is More & More is Less (a popular phrase commonly used in America) this should TOTALLY not be happening and needs to be fixed right? 

[Masked Koopa]

24 minutes ago, Wendy C. said:

Joy is not the absence of suffering. If you injure yourself during a happy day, and you can be in pain while still generally happy with your life. Emotions and feelings are not mutually exclusive; you can feel contradicting emotions at the same time. 
In this, Pain is absolutely eternal. You are slowly dying from the moment you were born. Every cell in your body fights a losing battle of keeping you functional for as long as possible. To exist, you must kill and consume other living things. We must give birth to more of ourselves to vicariously extend our lives upon our children, though they will die as well one day. You must create life knowing full well that there is a 100% it will be in pain and ultimately die; in that, even the act of giving birth is cruel. 
Some of the greatest acts suffering are done in the name of Joy or Love, so pain is truly eternal; above all other emotions and experiences, there is always pain. 

Suffering is not the absence of Joy. If you avoid injuring yourself during a miserable day, and you can be in happiness while still generally generally miserable with your life. Emotions and feelings are not mutually exclusive; you can feel contradicting emotions at the same time. 
In this, Joy is absolutely eternal. You are experiencing more from the moment you were born. Every cell in your body fights to keep you functional for as long as possible, to let you enjoy living. To exist, you must kill and consume other living things, yet are given the choice to consume things like plants and fungi, where concepts like pain and happiness are abstract if present at all. We can choose to give birth to more of ourselves to vicariously extend our lives upon our children, who will have their own life, filled with moments of happiness. You must create life knowing full well that there is a 100% it will be able to laugh, to feel joy; in that, even the painful act of giving birth is a happy moment.
Some of the greatest acts kindness are done in the name of Joy or Love, so joy is truly eternal; above all other emotions and experiences, there is always joy.

[Yuuko]

1 hour ago, Masked Koopa said:

Suffering is not the absence of Joy. If you avoid injuring yourself during a miserable day, and you can be in happiness while still generally generally miserable with your life. Emotions and feelings are not mutually exclusive; you can feel contradicting emotions at the same time. 
In this, Joy is absolutely eternal. You are experiencing more from the moment you were born. Every cell in your body fights to keep you functional for as long as possible, to let you enjoy living. To exist, you must kill and consume other living things, yet are given the choice to consume things like plants and fungi, where concepts like pain and happiness are abstract if present at all. We can choose to give birth to more of ourselves to vicariously extend our lives upon our children, who will have their own life, filled with moments of happiness. You must create life knowing full well that there is a 100% it will be able to laugh, to feel joy; in that, even the painful act of giving birth is a happy moment.
Some of the greatest acts kindness are done in the name of Joy or Love, so joy is truly eternal; above all other emotions and experiences, there is always joy.

Except the state of the universe is a state of decay.  Energy is lost, time passes, healing slows, and problems don't go away as quick as wins.  At some point everyone you know, and don't, will die.  Its why most religions include some type of "what happens next" because ultimately nothing else matters at the point of death, which is wholly unavoidable.  Flipping the words around doesn't mean what you think it does.

[Dextops]

7 minutes ago, Shosuko said:

Except the state of the universe is a state of decay.

well i mean yeah but i don't remember what exactly was said but ive heard if you took every atom in the universe and put it in a hour glass and single particle fell every (i don't remember but it was a long ass time) some black holes wouldn't even be 1% through its life time so i don't think the universe will die so quickly

[Yuuko]

17 minutes ago, Dextops said:

well i mean yeah but i don't remember what exactly was said but ive heard if you took every atom in the universe and put it in a hour glass and single particle fell every (i don't remember but it was a long ass time) some black holes wouldn't even be 1% through its life time so i don't think the universe will die so quickly

Yeah, religions and philosophers try to distract us from our ~75 year lifespan with things like that all the time.  For some people the distraction works, for others there is a level of peace gained by acknowledging the suffering and tempering expectations.  While the universe is some 14 billion years old we'll all be dead in the very near future.

Not to mention the reality that our brains are chemical concoctions that build resistances, sustain imbalances, and are only fractionally under our control...

Damn, this post needs an emo-ji

[Masked Koopa]

1 hour ago, Shosuko said:

Except the state of the universe is a state of decay.  Energy is lost, time passes, healing slows, and problems don't go away as quick as wins.  At some point everyone you know, and don't, will die.  Its why most religions include some type of "what happens next" because ultimately nothing else matters at the point of death, which is wholly unavoidable.  Flipping the words around doesn't mean what you think it does.

Yeah it does. It means it's a matter of perspective. You're assuming that there's some greater level of happiness to living forever, but I'm happy with what I get. Equally, the universe may be in a state of decay, but the earth isn't, because right now we still have hundreds of thousands of human lifetimes of the sun throwing free energy at as left. Only looking at how things will end is like watching dragon ball and skipping to gohan beating up cell or whatever. Or putting yourself on godmode to not have to practice fighting celestial champion. Or turning off wildfires. These things only matter if you decide they matter, skimming over the actual buildup and development is a great way to make yourself not care. Life's only miserable if all you care about is how it ends*. If you accept it for what it is then it's actually pretty neat, I reckon.

*(Or if you have a supremely poor living situation, but that's our cue to try to help as many as we can, not to give up)

[Maxposting]

I hate how only mike is the only one senselessly being on topic of dst.

[Mike23Ua]

This thread done got weird, this is what happens when we have no update or news of an update, now here’s what I would like to know, since a Beta did not start already, is it safe to assume there won’t be a Beta and they will try to push this out to all platforms at once? Wouldn’t be the first time they released an update without a Beta.. but ultimately it depends on what all is in the update I guess. *shrugs*
Emoticons do not work in the Xbox version of the game by the way, so maybe that’s something they should actually fix with that other Upcoming QoL JoeW confirmed was coming but won’t say when.  

[Vixen Doe]

when did amongus get this deep

[Wendy C.]

9 hours ago, Shosuko said:

Yeah, religions and philosophers try to distract us from our ~75 year lifespan with things like that all the time.  For some people the distraction works, for others there is a level of peace gained by acknowledging the suffering and tempering expectations.  While the universe is some 14 billion years old we'll all be dead in the very near future.

At the very least, ONE other person has an idea of what things are actually like. 
Congratulations, kindred spirit. 

[Yuuko]

10 hours ago, Masked Koopa said:

Yeah it does. It means it's a matter of perspective. You're assuming that there's some greater level of happiness to living forever, but I'm happy with what I get. Equally, the universe may be in a state of decay, but the earth isn't, because right now we still have hundreds of thousands of human lifetimes of the sun throwing free energy at as left. Only looking at how things will end is like watching dragon ball and skipping to gohan beating up cell or whatever. Or putting yourself on godmode to not have to practice fighting celestial champion. Or turning off wildfires. These things only matter if you decide they matter, skimming over the actual buildup and development is a great way to make yourself not care. Life's only miserable if all you care about is how it ends*. If you accept it for what it is then it's actually pretty neat, I reckon.

*(Or if you have a supremely poor living situation, but that's our cue to try to help as many as we can, not to give up)

Except it isn't just perspective - the earth IS decaying.  What do you think Global Warming is?  Our very existence creates carbon pollution in the air, even if we immediately halted every coal burning plant the fact that we breath is killing our planet.  Not to mention at some point, no matter what we do, a stellar impact could annihilate all life on our planet.  The future is never guaranteed.

This is the basis of Buddhism with the 4 noble truths.  Life is suffering.  Its suffering when we gain because everything gained can be lost, when we lose because we must endure a lack, and when we want and we cannot have.  You can go the 8 fold route to remove desire and expectation from your life and reach a sort of peace with that fact, but that is not everyone's path.  Heaven, hell, justice and ethics are all illusions we create to try and delude ourselves into thinking we aren't animals.

[ALCRD]

5 minutes ago, Shosuko said:

What do you think Global Warming is? 

Apparently a natural phenomenon that happened few times before in Earths past and woud still happen now even if the pollution emission was down to 0. Climate will slowly get back to "normal" again like it did before.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

49 minutes ago, ALCRD said:

Apparently a natural phenomenon that happened few times before in Earths past and woud still happen now even if the pollution emission was down to 0. Climate will slowly get back to "normal" again like it did before.

except that we released all the carbon that was trapped from the atmosphere to plants back in the carboniferous period so, if that phenomenon is true, we are adding all the carbon of a era that isnt compatible with the life we know. Plus we are destroying the only way to trap again that carbon converting the amazonas in forniture and the mllenial moss from the north tundras (the true lung of the earth that needs hundred of years to grow few cm) totally destroyed to gather the soil to plant veggies to feed cows (cows that farts and contaminate the few drinkeable water we have with their manure) to feed a dumb ass that buys whatever the tv or the internet tell him to feed a void without caring about which slaves kids are mining toxic materials in a destroyed mountain, which slaves women are sleeping near their sewing machine to prevent losing a 1 or 2$ worth work, which animal are being trapped in tiny jails making them suffering mind and physic pain and the list follows

so pls, this is a dst forum, conspiracies blogs are in the next door

[ALCRD]

8 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

so pls, this is a dst forum, conspiracies blogs are in the next door

1. I wasn't the one who started the talk about Earth destruction and Global Warming

2. Your post right there sounds pretty much like a conspiracy post.