Muzarello Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Some might say that the scaled furnace is perfect as it is, and Warly's/Willow's/Walter's cooking speed would be left behind if it worked like that, but think about it, it's a Furnace, and it's a D.fly drop, it's not meant to be built day 1 or something(even tho some people can), so their cooking speed would still be very useful in the early game to mid game and such with the Firepits and campfires. The heat it provides is really nice, but it's only an eternal firepit, with not that much light, and would be nice to not have to make a torch to burn things to ashes or keep clicking on the furnace to cook stacks of foods, Idk if it would need an opening animation , make just some effect to say that whatever is in the furnace is ready. I see it working with 1 to 2 slots, would be enough, the cooking time would be slightly faster than Warly's fast cooking a pack of food. Could also be instant cooking much like Fire Packims. That's an Idea, what do you guys think? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I suggested many times that it needs a emergancy mode just like the flingomatic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzarello Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, minespatch said: I suggested many times that it needs a emergancy mode just like the flingomatic. How would the emergency mode work on the furnace? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, Muzarello said: How would the emergency mode work on the furnace? Turn off the heat during the summer... Unless you plan on hammering the structure? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzarello Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, minespatch said: Turn off the heat during the summer... Unless you plan on hammering the structure? Oh boy, that would be perfect, sometimes it gets very annoying, I can't go to the sea in the summer cuz I hv a furnace in my boat.I like it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, Muzarello said: Oh boy, that would be perfect, sometimes it gets very annoying, I can't go to the sea in the summer cuz I hv a furnace in my boat.I like it Flingomatic has a emergancy mode which removes light and power but works during if you want to save power. Pretty sure winona's items could use that as well to save energy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, minespatch said: Turn off the heat during the summer... Unless you plan on hammering the structure? The furnace's threat in summer is a deliberate (and the only) downside. You can't just ask to get rid of the only drawback to such a good mechanic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Well-met said: The furnace's threat in summer is a deliberate (and the only) downside. You can't just ask to get rid of the only drawback to such a good mechanic. Then why does flingomatic have a emergancy mode? Should they remove the emergancy mode off the flingomatic? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, minespatch said: Then why does flingomatic have a emergancy mode? Should they remove the emergancy mode off the flingomatic? because the flingo is not a furnace? I fail to see the similarity between the two. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 then willow, warly and walter cooking perk will be totally useless... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, minespatch said: Then why does flingomatic have a emergancy mode? Should they remove the emergancy mode off the flingomatic? so you can use firepits? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, gaymime said: so you can use firepits? Yeah, I don't use scale furnace too much, I'm just going by what I know since I put them on my base to test out the new skins. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, minespatch said: Yeah, I don't use scale furnace too much, I'm just going by what I know since I put them on my base to test out the new skins. i meant the flingo X''D they put out firepits with a quickness! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, gaymime said: i meant the flingo X''D they put out firepits with a quickness! Oh definitely. I mean emergency mode is used for winter. I know what you mean there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkusan Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Are you guys referring to the heat being emitted from the furnace as the threat in summer? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I suggested this long time ago too.. we got a mod for it but I wish it was something in the game... cookign a stack of 40 meat or eggs isn't really that fun even with action queue btw why is the discussion more around turning it off instead of the title? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkusan Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I'm personally not a fan of manual cooking because occasionally I'll accidentally hand the food I was cooking over to someone who's standing on top of the furnace/fire pit; it sounds like this fire packim baggims is like a chester that instantly cooks food you put in it, so I'd love that as a quality-of-life thing. Also, I'm curious as to why this thing only has 1 eye. I view the furnace as an asset rather than a threat in Summer because it's an eternal fire pit for cooking that the flingomatic can't extinguish. The heat it emits doesn't really do anything in summer either; the most it can possibly do is slightly increase the minimum temperature your thermal stone can drop down to while you're hugging your endo fire pit, and that's assuming the endo fire pit is right next to the furnace. As much as turning the furnace on and off makes some lore sense (since the dfly can turn herself on and off enraged mode), I don't think it's a mechanic that needs to exist. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1364931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzarello Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 7 hours ago, FreyaMaluk said: I suggested this long time ago too.. we got a mod for it but I wish it was something in the game... cookign a stack of 40 meat or eggs isn't really that fun even with action queue btw why is the discussion more around turning it off instead of the title? 6 hours ago, Rinkusan said: I'm personally not a fan of manual cooking because occasionally I'll accidentally hand the food I was cooking over to someone who's standing on top of the furnace/fire pit; it sounds like this fire packim baggims is like a chester that instantly cooks food you put in it, so I'd love that as a quality-of-life thing. Also, I'm curious as to why this thing only has 1 eye. I view the furnace as an asset rather than a threat in Summer because it's an eternal fire pit for cooking that the flingomatic can't extinguish. The heat it emits doesn't really do anything in summer either; the most it can possibly do is slightly increase the minimum temperature your thermal stone can drop down to while you're hugging your endo fire pit, and that's assuming the endo fire pit is right next to the furnace. As much as turning the furnace on and off makes some lore sense (since the dfly can turn herself on and off enraged mode), I don't think it's a mechanic that needs to exist. Well, turning the furnace off may be a little too much, but yeah, the thing is cooking in the furnace, much like packims do, you put in raw, take it out cooked, or burned in case of flammable itens, Action queue can help us not click a million times but still, a furnace should do this, 1 slot in the furnace would be perfect already. Sometimes I don't even use the furnace, only when I have lots of food and they start to rot in my salt boxes, and it's really boring to cook stacks and stacks manually . And that's kinda fair that the furnace can't be turned off, it's like using an endothermic firepit in winter. But for that, I kinda have an idea, as the furnace would have a slot, if you'd put blue gems, it would cool down, and consume the gem, idk if it would work, but blue gems are the easiest ones , so wouldn't hurt that much. Cooling down the furnace wouldn't let you cook unless you put red gems to light it again. I just don't know if the funace cooling down would make it like an endothermic furnace, maybe it's just too much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1365072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Summer heat, mid summer will usually match the heat emanating from the furnaces. I have 4 furnace setups around my world littered with thermal stones and in the hottest days of summer, the stones will be light blue. Emergency mode isn't totally necessary. If I were to have my way, I'd make furnaces even hotter to make it so thermal stones glow during summer nights. That's my favorite part of winter honestly. the night glow. But to address the primary topic of this thread, I'd love a fire packim functionality to the scaled furnace. However, what would make even more sense would be something similar to sail attachments on boats. For example, a furnace attachment that acts as a grill to put your stacks of food into it and another furnace attachment that's an incinerator that disposes of large quantities of garbage. Make em random drops from dying larvae. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1365112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Thermal stones in DST do not generate heat/cold on their respective seasons. In summer, it will mostly stay dormant in the heat(I think there are still some ways to charge it) and putting it in a fridge in Winter will not get it colder. The furnace is still hot in summer. Another really good thing about Fire Packim is that food spoilage is removed when cooking. Usually when you cook a food, it only restores some of it's spoilage, but with fire packim it restores ALL of it. Really useful as paying attention will allow you to have effectively double the food life. And don't even try to say that's overpowered, MR making hambats at no spoilage from red spoilage meat. The Bee Queen drops an item that literally freezes spoilage entirely, and has NO drawbacks, like at all...it even turns 1 inventory slot into 4! So why is it such a horrible and unbalanced thing to buff up the furnace a little? I'd really like this change. The scale furnace was cool when I first got it, but now I'd rather just make scaled chests out of it because it lost a lot of its use very quickly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1365135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzarello Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 8 hours ago, cropo said: Thermal stones in DST do not generate heat/cold on their respective seasons. In summer, it will mostly stay dormant in the heat(I think there are still some ways to charge it) and putting it in a fridge in Winter will not get it colder. The furnace is still hot in summer. Another really good thing about Fire Packim is that food spoilage is removed when cooking. Usually when you cook a food, it only restores some of it's spoilage, but with fire packim it restores ALL of it. Really useful as paying attention will allow you to have effectively double the food life. And don't even try to say that's overpowered, MR making hambats at no spoilage from red spoilage meat. The Bee Queen drops an item that literally freezes spoilage entirely, and has NO drawbacks, like at all...it even turns 1 inventory slot into 4! So why is it such a horrible and unbalanced thing to buff up the furnace a little? I'd really like this change. The scale furnace was cool when I first got it, but now I'd rather just make scaled chests out of it because it lost a lot of its use very quickly. This complete restoration is what I'm looking for, and yeah, that's not overpowered, as you said, Been queen's drops are super useful and have no drawbacks, I'd like some buff in our lil ol furnace. The chests are kinda costly, but that's for other topic if it really seens deserving. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1365193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 i think being able to instantly cook foods and turn things to ashes with the furnace would be cool and the ability to turn it on and off imo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1365204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 The fast cooking quirks of Willow, Walter, and Warly are hardly important enough to worry about becoming redundant. I don't mind the idea of a mass cooking item, but not from the furnace. I like how it works now as an eternal flame for heating, and as a boss drop. I wouldn't mind an actual oven cooking item similar to the winter feast stove we got last year. Something designed and balanced around cooking stacks of food would be useful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121117-the-scaled-furnace-should-work-like-fire-packim-baggims/#findComment-1365513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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