hacksaw12 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Question: Since the new insulation has thermal conductivity of 0.000 DTU, does that mean I can build regular tiles and pipes with perfect insulation? Or do I have to build insulated tiles and pipes? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Regular stuff uses an average of the mediums, insulated uses the lower of the two. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xuhybrid Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Yes you can just build regular tiles. Edit: I stand corrected. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefoxfire Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I believe so. Think of insulation as the replacement for abyssalite in this case. Might be not entirely accurate though so do check with others first too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Yunru has it right Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, hacksaw12 said: Since the new insulation has thermal conductivity of 0.000 DTU The actual conductivity is 0.0001 but the game doesn`t show it. Regular tiles and pipes made out of that material has the same properties abyssalite used to ahve. It was good as a non insulated tile for normal insulation use but wasn`t good enough for large temperature differences like liquid glass or LOX machines. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Sasza22 said: The actual conductivity is 0.0001 but the game doesn`t show it. Regular tiles and pipes made out of that material has the same properties abyssalite used to ahve. It was good as a non insulated tile for normal insulation use but wasn`t good enough for large temperature differences like liquid glass or LOX machines. Yep. Not perfect. And use insulated tiles/pipes to get that very low value in the first place. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Before QOL, When the insulation first turn up, I pumped steam with regular insulation gas pipes, it will break, but with insulation gas pipes, you won`t Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacksaw12 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Quote Thanx, all. I should have said in the initial post, I was interested only in the high temp differential stuff like LOX and liquid hydrogen. Certainly makes Insulation very limited in use if you need 400kg per section. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, hacksaw12 said: Thanx, all. I should have said in the initial post, I was interested only in the high temp differential stuff like LOX and liquid hydrogen. Certainly makes Insulation very limited in use if you need 400kg per section. In that case I suggest vacuum seals. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus2611 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 If you can make insulation, you can make visco gel for easy liquid locks, which can be used to make vacuum seals. For pipes you can use regular granite pipes kept in a vacuum environment; you'll want to cool the pipes down to LOX/LH2 temps first so that they don't break, but this is easily done by using a bridge to temporarily reroute super coolant from your aquatuner loop. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Arcus2611 said: For pipes you can use regular granite pipes kept in a vacuum environment; you'll want to cool the pipes down to LOX/LH2 temps first so that they don't break, but this is easily done by using a bridge to temporarily reroute super coolant from your aquatuner loop. It`s faster to use radiant pipes in those scenarios. They cool down instantly and you shouldn`t lack iron at that point of the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacksaw12 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 All good points, but it rolls back to my second comment, the new insulation isn't good for much, in fact, I'm still looking for the first thing it would be good for. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, hacksaw12 said: All good points, but it rolls back to my second comment, the new insulation isn't good for much, in fact, I'm still looking for the first thing it would be good for. Insulation. Anything you would of formerly used Abyssalite for. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacksaw12 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Yunru said: Insulation. Anything you would of formerly used Abyssalite for. I could formerly use abyssalite by the ton, and from early game. Doesn't seem to me I would be able to repeat that with insulation, unless space travel gets a lot faster and more rewarding. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 The only pipes made of insulation inside my 1000+ cycle base are the fuel pipes inside my rocket silo. (So I am able to let my liquid hydrogen/oxygen stay inside the pipes.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101529-insulation-use/#findComment-1140707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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