a fun game Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Bug Fixes Pugalisk fountain will reset (after the normal delay) when the player returns to hamlet if the Magic water was taken outside the world and used. Even if you're revived through magic flowers,Will the Fountain of Youth be re-reisen? It then not balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimXane Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 [perfectly balanced] if you are saying there should be a delay, no one is gonna have enough resources to last there very long and if so what are they gaining just more flowers and snake bones ? meat effigy and food ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a fun game Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 hours ago, CrimXane said: [perfectly balanced] if you are saying there should be a delay, no one is gonna have enough resources to last there very long and if so what are they gaining just more flowers and snake bones ? meat effigy and food ? Do you think infinite rebirth is balanced? That's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InSanity71 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, a fun game said: Do you think infinite rebirth is balanced? That's ridiculous. Is that not just the same concept of a meat effigy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a fun game Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, InSanity71 said: Is that not just the same concept of a meat effigy? meat effigy needs ingredients, but magic flowers do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnforgivingBR Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, a fun game said: Do you think infinite rebirth is balanced? That's ridiculous. You still have to defeat a boss to earn that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inferjus4 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 On 23.11.2018 at 11:43 AM, TheUnforgivingBR said: You still have to defeat a boss to earn that. You can just run away and get it for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonball 594 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 You act as though the meat effigy is hard to get. It isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosePapp Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Consider hamlet has no avaliable touch stones (to my knowledge) so this kind of compensates it, as you have to get out of your way and explore, and try to run away from a really dangerous boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepySheepy Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Plus would it not be renewable unless you killed the boss? It seems balanced enough for me. If the fountain does renew despite the boss being defeated or not, then obviously it would need to be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Would be interesting if the "Pugalisk Ruins" closed up while Pugalisk is alive. That way players can't just grab it and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimXane Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/23/2018 at 12:31 PM, a fun game said: Do you think infinite rebirth is balanced? That's ridiculous. hmmm 500 meat effigies...... Balanced i say it's literally a meat effigie or a life giving emulate. if u can kill the pugalisk you deserve rebirth. On 11/25/2018 at 3:13 AM, Zeklo said: Would be interesting if the "Pugalisk Ruins" closed up while Pugalisk is alive. That way players can't just grab it and run. thanks for the tip LOL i didn't even know you can do that i thought it won't despawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a fun game Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Guys.The Pugetisk fountain does not regenerate I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosePapp Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 It is still the same concept as the meat effigy or the life giving amulet. Both require a sacrifice (ex. Resources for those two, killing the pug for the flower to respawn) and it was also put there to balance out that we got no touch stones. Ds is supposed to be hard and uncompromising, but not unrewarding, and that's the reason it's there. If you don't like it, put it out or burn it instead of using it, just like many mod out their game to be easier. It WOULD be unbalanced if it respawned even if you didn't kill the Pug, in which you'd still need to get to those ruins yourself anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, CrimXane said: hmmm 500 meat effigies...... Balanced i say it's literally a meat effigie or a life giving emulate. Not literally, quite — the effigy takes a bite out of your max health in DS. You couldn’t build 500 of em with out killing yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inferjus4 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I do not know if is was changed recently, but Fountain regenerates even if Pugalisk is not defeated. I had taken the Magic Flower once and ran away and when I came back, fountain regenerated anyway even if Pugalisk was still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a fun game Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 16 hours ago, inferjus4 said: I do not know if is was changed recently, but Fountain regenerates even if Pugalisk is not defeated. I had taken the Magic Flower once and ran away and when I came back, fountain regenerated anyway even if Pugalisk was still alive. The Pugetisk fountain does not regenerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimXane Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 21 hours ago, Rellimarual said: Not literally, quite — the effigy takes a bite out of your max health in DS. You couldn’t build 500 of em with out killing yourself! having their crafting items lying around is what i meant Also not to forget no touch stones in Hamlet. you can also craft like 10 live giving amulates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atsumame Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Life giving amulets don't work the same as dst either. You have to actually wear it for it to work. Making it a huge pain to use compared to effigies. Like @CrimXane said you can stockpile the materials for the effigy... However you can't stockpile the steaks. The best you can do at minimum (with character with little health such as Wes or Maxwell) is to have your effigy built and have another one prefabricated. Once you die you can just place the other one right away. For characters with high health (like WX absurd health total of 400 once he's fully upgraded), they can have multiple effigies + one prefabricated. For example WX can have 3 effigies up + 1 prefabricated in reserve and still have more than 2 times the health of Wilson. All and all, the flower isn't op in the slightest. All it has for it is the sanity regen aura it has once planted, which is useful early to mid game in hamlet. Once you reach end game though, eat the water as soon as you can (or use it while fighting the pugalisk) so another pugalisk can respawn because snake bones are an amazing decor item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimXane Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 14 hours ago, Atsumame said: Life giving amulets don't work the same as dst either. You have to actually wear it for it to work. Making it a huge pain to use compared to effigies. Like @CrimXane said you can stockpile the materials for the effigy... However you can't stockpile the steaks. The best you can do at minimum (with character with little health such as Wes or Maxwell) is to have your effigy built and have another one prefabricated. Once you die you can just place the other one right away. For characters with high health (like WX absurd health total of 400 once he's fully upgraded), they can have multiple effigies + one prefabricated. For example WX can have 3 effigies up + 1 prefabricated in reserve and still have more than 2 times the health of Wilson. All and all, the flower isn't op in the slightest. All it has for it is the sanity regen aura it has once planted, which is useful early to mid game in hamlet. Once you reach end game though, eat the water as soon as you can (or use it while fighting the pugalisk) so another pugalisk can respawn because snake bones are an amazing decor item. just kill some pigs there's abundance of them to make 100 meat effigies in one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, CrimXane said: just kill some pigs there's abundance of them to make 100 meat effigies in one day But then you'd die of resurrection sickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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