harmonium Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Hello ! All the time i light up my whole base, my base become to heat so much already, in 2 - 3 cycle all my base go from green (temperate) to orange (hot). I have remove all my light, because of this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 How many lights do you have? You really don't need more than is required for bristle blossoms. If you insist on lighting everything for the decor, or simply preference, you'll have to deal with heat. Either install an air conditioning system on your oxygen source to combat the heat, or use a coolant radiator throughout the base. To maximize lighting, make all floors and walls out of glass or airflow tiles, and build only a few lights per room. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonium Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 Yeah but that suck man, i want to light my whole base, because it better looking, why light heat that much wtf seriously ? We can go to space but can't light our base because we will die from heat O_O I'm a little surprised, let stay in the dark then, no choice i guess, i was thinking light everywhere should be Something to do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Later in the game cooling the base is trivial, even if it's flooded in lights, so just hold of your blinding Christmas decorations for a while. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Do they really make that much heat or was your base just heating up anyhow because you had no cooling system? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 No energy is lost in the game. Outside biomes are warmer. If you produce heat of any kind it adds up. Light doesn`t produce too much iirc but it gets annoying for bristle farms. Deoxydizers, research stations, bateries all heat up your early base. But with proper layout heat is not a problem until you start using geyser water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, crypticorb said: To maximize lighting, make all floors and walls out of glass or airflow tiles, and build only a few lights per room. why airflow tiles? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, harmonium said: Hello ! All the time i light up my whole base, my base become to heat so much already, in 2 - 3 cycle all my base go from green (temperate) to orange (hot). I have remove all my light, because of this. Yes, lights add heat. Not a lot, but without automation they're on 100% of the time. It adds up. Just now, Neotuck said: why airflow tiles? Light goes through airflow tiles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, KittenIsAGeek said: Light goes through airflow tiles. Since when? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Sasza22 said: No energy is lost in the game. The Water Sieve proves you wrong. As does the act of digging, due to the mass loss (the heat goes with it). Plants, Dupes, and Critters all delete the heat in whatever they consume, as well. And most buildings that produce a new resource (instead of converting one to another) do so at either a fixed temperature, or based on the temperature of the building, both of which can be manipulated to become excellent heat deletion methods. Actually, the game is pretty bad at conserving energy... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Neotuck said: Since when? Oh yeah.. they changed it with Rocketry to give a reason for glass tiles. Sorry, its been a long day. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, KittenIsAGeek said: Oh yeah.. they changed it with Rocketry to give a reason for glass tiles. Sorry, its been a long day. No worries, just didn't want @harmonium to find out the hard way and get confused Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonium Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 Yes guys i know how to cool my base, even if its not realy easy to do because of all the pipe (with radiant pipe) and cold water) but seriously i didn't know the light heat so much, one light heat more than the cool ventilo, so now i never light my base anymore (except for some plant) but that the deal. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I haven't tried lighting my base for quite a while, except for certain rooms. I think I will try and see what I can come up with. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, Neotuck said: why airflow tiles? Because airflow. Not because of the light permeability. Mesh tiles work too. You're correct that it doesn't help with light, but it's still useful to mention. It's a good idea to have airflow tiles at the corners of rooms to allow CO2 to flow, even if it sacrifices a bit of light in corners as well as a bit of decor or runspeed bonus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I wonder when full release comes out they will dim the dark areas like they did in early beta It looked cool but made testing difficult so it was removed 2 minutes ago, crypticorb said: It's a good idea to have airflow tiles at the corners of rooms to allow CO2 to flow, even if it sacrifices a bit of light in corners as well as a bit of decor or runspeed bonus. gotcha, I use airflow tiles for my rooms too also I like to trap wild shine bugs in my barracks early game to help with decor, easy to do just build a compactor in your barracks, set it to shine eggs, then deconstruct once you have 3 (any more and you risk overcrowding) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 alternatives = shine bugs or window tiles Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonium Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 But to be serious this is not very realist, a little light heat a whole room, c'mon please. Light up all our room should be a must have to do, its look realist when you have access to power, you need to use it for some confort for everyone sanity, be in the dark is not cool. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 And talking about realism...light bulb with conical light....priceless... Maybe they should change that...spherical instead so you get a bigger radius... other alternative...normal lamps with little heat...grow lamps for the plants Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 3 hours ago, harmonium said: But to be serious this is not very realist, a little light heat a whole room, c'mon please. Light up all our room should be a must have to do, its look realist when you have access to power, you need to use it for some confort for everyone sanity, be in the dark is not cool. ONI light bulbs are incandescent bulbs, which means they generate LOTS of heat. Those types of light bulbs have been phased out of markets for the last decade because of how much power they waste into heat, compared to florescence bulbs or LEDs, which generate comparably negligible heat. The amount of heat the lights in game generate is not unrealistic. The only thing that is silly is that a space-faring crew is using decades outdated technology. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Yoma_Nosme said: And talking about realism...light bulb with conical light....priceless... They are most likely based on floodlights, which are themselves conical in nature, and the interior has a reflective surface to reflect the light downward. Such bulbs are usually recessed into the ceiling to more or less hide them. 21 minutes ago, crypticorb said: The only thing that is silly is that a space-faring crew is using decades outdated technology. C'mon now, let's be honest. Dupes aren't exactly the brightest bulbs here..... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97422-light-heat-so-much/#findComment-1102862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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