ProfMembrane Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 So I got food poisoning germs in my resoivoir, is there any way to remove germs from water? Sieves don't remove germs, and there are things to cool water, but how do I remove germs from them? Do I just have to restart? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 place your reservoir in a chlorine filled room Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 It won't work any more. Don't worry. The germs will die in water or polluted water (if is slime germs) and in water if is food poisoning. But in time. Make another reservoir and convert the polluted water in clean water germ free. In 20 - 30 cycles the germs will die off. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promethien Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Cooling the water will kill the germs. This is something you are going to want to be doing anyways. The 40c the sieve outputs is too high for fresh water agriculture and you'll want to do some general cooling as well. Running your water through an aquatuner then through conductive pipes in your base is a good way to control temp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Don't use this reservoir for cooking. That's literally all you need to do. Other uses are unaffected. The worst thing that can happen is dupe who bottles the water getting germs from the bottle. Just add a sink on the way to mess hall. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 The only way to actively rid water of germs is through temperature control. For Food Poisoning, you'll need to heat it. The simplest way to do that is to stick a Tepidizer in the tank and let it run for a while. Make sure you insulate the area around your reservoir first, though, or you will cook your whole base. That said, Coolthulhu is correct. As long as you don't use that reservoir for cooking, or to refill your Water Cooler, there's no reason for concern. Plants don't care about germy water, and do not pass those germs to their products. Sinks, Lavatories, and Showers do not care, either. Electrolyzers will pass the germs onto the O2 and H2 they produce, but Food Poisoning is ineffective in the air. It must be ingested with food or water to be relevant. A lot of people even use this as a defense mechanism against Slimelung (which is dangerous in the air but not in liquids), since only a single type of germs can occupy a given tile, and Food Poisoning seems to "win". I expect some changes in that area before the game is in a finished state, but that is the current situation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 try running germy water down a flight of stairs I recommend at least 8 steps in the staircase. Germs that drip fall into a pool tend to multiply outrageously in the pool but germs that have to navigate stairs don't quite make it to the bottom.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Kabrute said: try running germy water down a flight of stairs I recommend at least 8 steps in the staircase. Germs that drip fall into a pool tend to multiply outrageously in the pool but germs that have to navigate stairs don't quite make it to the bottom.... Really? Haha. I'll have to try this Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0SS Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 If you are willing to engineer around their labor costs, algae terrariums can be an effective way to clean germy water early on. Terrariums transfer germs to outputted oxygen, but this isn't really a problem as they die off much faster there than in water. If the germs are food poisoning, the health risks are minimal (dupes won't get sick from inhaling) unless there is a large amount of pO2 floating around. Carbon skimmers are also able to convert germy water into clean pW, though their throughput is too low to rely on them exclusively. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Neotuck said: place your reservoir in a chlorine filled room 6 hours ago, tzionut said: It won't work any more. Says who? I just tested it This next screenshot was taken the moment the reservoir was 5 tons full of germy water (note the germ content circled in red) This screenshot was taken 1/4 cycles later Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waifu Wars Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Neotuck said: Says who? I just tested it This next screenshot was taken the moment the reservoir was 5 tons full of germy water (note the germ content circled in red) This screenshot was taken 1/4 cycles later Works for me too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Raptor Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: Don't use this reservoir for cooking. That's literally all you need to do. Other uses are unaffected. The worst thing that can happen is dupe who bottles the water getting germs from the bottle. Just add a sink on the way to mess hall. Actually it doesn't matter for cooking if your using a grill, it will remove all the germs from the food. The only danger is when using germy water with the microbe musher. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Steve Raptor said: The only danger is when using germy water with the microbe musher. or the water cooler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Raptor Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: or the water cooler Ah yes, that as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Quote update 283915 Reservoirs are now sealed so that their contents no longer interact with their surroundings. Quote Says who? I just tested it It supposed not to interact whit the gases outside... so i think is a bug. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, tzionut said: It supposed not to interact whit the gases outside... so i think is a bug. That update was so PW wouldn't off gas PO2 while in the tank Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher-7 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I understood this as you could not disinfect a tank with chlorine. Also that it would not off gas if it was polluted water. 2 minutes ago, Neotuck said: That update was so PW wouldn't off gas PO2 while in the tank Does it not seem weird if the exchange only works one way? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cypher-7 said: Does it not seem weird? That pretty much summarizes ONI game physics Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher-7 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Don’t get me wrong, I prefer that you can use chlorine is this way. 1 minute ago, Neotuck said: That pretty much describes ONI game physics What would be another example of this? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Cypher-7 said: What would be another example of this? Are you really asking me to make a list? This game is full of weird game physics that doesn't make sense on the real world gases don't mix fixed output temperature of the water sieve water locks can maintain air pressure liquids don't mix digging deletes half it's mass I could go on... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slvrsrfr Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 the pwater not diluting into clean water is one i find strange... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Neotuck said: Water locks can maintain air pressure against a vacuum Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfMembrane Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 This was my cooking water, so I can't just not use it. Also, I'm not sure what that big tank looking thing is, my resovoir is just a pool of water that I have a pump in. Will putting in a tepidizer fix it? Also someone mentioned that the sieve is too hot, I did not know sieve water is hotter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, ProfMembrane said: This was my cooking water, so I can't just not use it. Also, I'm not sure what that big tank looking thing is, my resovoir is just a pool of water that I have a pump in. Will putting in a tepidizer fix it? Also someone mentioned that the sieve is too hot, I did not know sieve water is hotter. most players avoid using tepidizers as it's a waste of energy, better to use aqua tuners so at lest you can cool your water while you heat your Pwater sieve has a fixed temp of 40C, don't know who said it's too hot but if you are worried about 40C don't place it near your main base Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfMembrane Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 1. No, I mean, the water it puts out, is the water 40C? Cause I can't irrigate with that. 2. How would an aqua-tuner help with bacteria? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95095-how-can-i-deal-with-germy-water/#findComment-1080368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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