hostagesaverfuz Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 gassy moos feeds on gas grass just like dreckos (klei should name gas grass's product something else like gas grass grass) each moo need 16 tiles of space, moos do not reproduce, meaning there is no need to tame them. moo's maximum calories: 1200kcal moos do not eat products of gas grass, moos do not eat gas grass that are "ready for harvest", 1kg of gas grass provide 100kcal (testing results showed 102kcal) one gas grass grow 1kg of gas grass each cycle (just as every other plant). gas grass requires 500g of liquid cholrine (not gas not solid) gas grass "sleep" when light is below 20000lux, they still consume cholrine when they are asleep. total cholrine-NG conversion=1:10 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, hostagesaverfuz said: moos do not reproduce, meaning there is no need to tame them. How long do they live? Are there temperature at which they die? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1076990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostagesaverfuz Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, Argelle said: How long do they live? Are there temperature at which they die? i don't know how old they are when they get off the rocket, but they can live up to 75 cycles, haven't tested their livable temp but i think you can find the answers to both questions in the game's database Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1076994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Thanks for the info @hostagesaverfuz I was asking because this time I will resist testing the beta branch, 1/ I will never see the "end game" by starting fresh each time 2/ I'm done with poor FPS because of the tracker (but I understand it's there ! <3 U Klei) so I do not have yet the "in game" data. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1076996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Surprisingly my frames didnt tank this time around. Also I think they might add reproducing at a later date but pushed the moo out to get it testing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 You mean when switching to EU update or just now for Rocket update with a save from a big old base? Can you tell how many cycles/animal/dupes there are if it's the latter, please? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Interestingly, you can only have wild gas grass when spawning them in the debug mode. How much gass does the moo produce each cycle and how calories does a moo need each cycle? Also Klei really should start to give us better cooling options because if they require us to cool down chlorine to the condensation point, with chlorine being vented at 60°C and needed to be cooled down to -36.6°C and with the whole installation basically needed to be happening on the asteroid surface, they should atleast give use some better tools for cooling, maybe preferable cooling through radiating heat into space. It'll already be a big challenge to make a workable setup. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: Also Klei really should start to give us better cooling options because if they require us to cool down chlorine to the condensation point, with chlorine being vented at 60°C and needed to be cooled down to -36.6°C and with the whole installation basically needed to be happening on the asteroid surface, they should atleast give use some better tools for cooling, maybe preferable cooling through radiating heat into space. It'll already be a big challenge to make a workable setup. A single Wheezewort should be able to cool chlorine to condensation and freezing point once primed. Thats how I used to get rid of all my chlorine and CO2 before slicksters came out and squeaky pufts. 20 minutes ago, Argelle said: You mean when switching to EU update or just now for Rocket update with a save from a big old base? Can you tell how many cycles/animal/dupes there are if it's the latter, please? I have not tried switching from an old base into the new build, I will tonight. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, BlueLance said: A single Wheezewort should be able to cool chlorine to condensation and freezing point once primed. Thats how I used to get rid of all my chlorine and CO2 before slicksters came out and squeaky pufts. Can it cool that at the rate of a chlorine vent's output? If so, I'll take my words back. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 45 minutes ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: Can it cool that at the rate of a chlorine vent's output? If so, I'll take my words back. Depends on how much your vent puts out, but the system I used would cool an entire 500g instantly once it was primed, I am unsure how it will handle constant 500g/s though but I think it could as long as the hydrogen with the wheezewort is dense enough Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Priming = flooding the wheezemort room with hydrogen? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostagesaverfuz Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Argelle said: Thanks for the info @hostagesaverfuz I was asking because this time I will resist testing the beta branch, 1/ I will never see the "end game" by starting fresh each time 2/ I'm done with poor FPS because of the tracker (but I understand it's there ! <3 U Klei) so I do not have yet the "in game" data. they can endure -200-200 degree celsius, but i would advise -100- -30 to prevent evaporation or solidification of liquid cholrine 1 hour ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: Can it cool that at the rate of a chlorine vent's output? If so, I'll take my words back. yes, ez. my cholrine emits 100g/s, cholrine's SHC is 1/5 of hydrogen's ,1 wheezewort cools 1000g of hydrogen by 5 degree per second , which is the same as 250 degree for a 100g/s cholrine vent Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 hours ago, hostagesaverfuz said: one gas grass grow 1kg of gas grass each cycle (just as every other plant) Wait is the gas grass harvestable? Is the product (fruit?) any useful? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Sasza22 said: Wait is the gas grass harvestable? Nope. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Argelle said: Priming = flooding the wheezemort room with hydrogen? Its a 6 tile high room, priming is more to do with the hydrogen getting cold enough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfons100 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: Can it cool that at the rate of a chlorine vent's output? If so, I'll take my words back. Chlorine got very little heat-capacity, so if you have a room with Hydrogen and a few Wheezeworts, Metal Tiles and then the chlorine, it should cool down relatively quickly. As the Wheezewort will cool more when in the Hydrogen, rather than the chlorine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostagesaverfuz Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Sasza22 said: Wait is the gas grass harvestable? Is the product (fruit?) any useful? 1 hour ago, Grimgaw said: Nope. yes but it is useless, Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
he77789 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 they are for gas moo only. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 So why would anyone need to convert chlorine to ng? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, chemie said: So why would anyone need to convert chlorine to ng? So you can power the moo farm obviously. /s Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, Grimgaw said: So you can power the moo farm obviously. /s So u go to space to get weeze I do not need and moos that take a lot of work to make something I have plenty of (power). Did I miss anything? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, chemie said: So u go to space to get weeze I do not need and moos that take a lot of work to make something I have plenty of (power). Did I miss anything? Nope that's pretty much the premise of RU. Great end game design. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, chemie said: So u go to space to get weeze I do not need and moos that take a lot of work to make something I have plenty of (power). Did I miss anything? Its to replace The oilboiler that they made redundant. Instead of planning a complex mechanism you bring space cows that eat chlorine. And fart methane that you burn for co2/slickstermeat. Its a dead end design as chlorine is non renewable mostly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Carnis said: Its to replace The oilboiler that they made redundant. Instead of planning a complex mechanism you bring space cows that eat chlorine. And fart methane that you burn for co2/slickstermeat. Its a dead end design as chlorine is non renewable mostly. That and I have never needed more than h2 gens and ng from geysers for power anyway. Never felt I needed to boil oil for my ng so raising cows hardly excites me. End game should have some perceived benefit or fun.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Q_ Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Carnis said: Its to replace The oilboiler that they made redundant. Instead of planning a complex mechanism you bring space cows that eat chlorine. And fart methane that you burn for co2/slickstermeat. Its a dead end design as chlorine is non renewable mostly. What people are doing in this game that they need so much power? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94778-gassy-moo/#findComment-1077215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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