Zzerzonat Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I play since ranching upgrade and it took me sometime to understand game mechanics which many of players here are familiar with. Ten colonies later I managed to get to 1000 cycles with currently 7 duplicants. My main nitrogen cooled natural gas power plant produces enough power for all the colony and sustainable plastic manufacturing. I still can not cool water properly so I tried building a steam power plant. None of the videos or articles on the web had any solutions so I started building next to volcano with magma. Few hundred cycles of experiments (I never used debug mode or sandbox mode) I got working prototype with semi automation and sustainable in a long run steam cooling. The amount of steam and heat was manageable so I settled up 3 steam turbines on top of each other. The prove of concept shows that it works perfectly except one thing.. the steam turbines leak steam to the top making them absolutely useless in the long run. Even if I will make all those fancy walfromite pressure doors to control the pressure the amount of loss is amazing. I had 120kg of steam under first turbine 90kg under the second and 60kg under third. After second turbine activated and filled up the battery something happened and during the next 3-5 cycles the pressure equalized while the turbines were in standby. I did not know that at first and rised the pressure under the first one to 178kg of steam at 270°C and looked how my dreams of clean energy vanish. The steam under the second steam turbine rised accordingly and there was absolutely nothing written that a turbine is leaking pressure anywhere! I can't provide screenshots right away since I am in a countryside right now but can do it by Monday if someone wants to see it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Yup, they suck. And with not being able to build stuff like pipes and pumps out of refined metal, there's no real way to restore that pressure gradient outside of complex airlock systems. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1060492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Don't bother with steam turbines. I hope that Klei has plans for them, because at the moment they are unusable without zero energy airlock pumping (which could be considered an exploit). They are only useful for cooling, since they delete a lot of heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1060562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy-Anemic Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 The Hydrogen generator was even more broken early in the game and given the number of posts about it being useless, I wouldn't expect it would take too long for Klei to get to fixing it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1060583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vovik Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 8 hours ago, Zzerzonat said: The steam under the second steam turbine rised accordingly and there was absolutely nothing written that a turbine is leaking pressure anywhere! Well, itseasy to make steam turbine work: Just pump some gramms of hydrogen above it and do not restrict flow of steam up/down and steam turbine will work, s it will register hydrogen pressure as smaller one. Tho it eats some steam, but that is solvable by adding a small sieve and dripping water from time to time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1060589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevio Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 This is the most usable version of it that I've seen that works completely automatic, just add magma heat: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1060751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xarian Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Steam turbines are buggy and, IMO, worthless. Same with petroleum power plants, minus being buggy. Why on earth would I want to burn petroleum when I can turn it into natural gas more easily and get dramatically more energy out of it? They might be usable if the refinery didn't lose 50% of your oil and require a dupe to constantly sit there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1060904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambaire Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, Xarian said: Steam turbines are buggy and, IMO, worthless. Same with petroleum power plants, minus being buggy. Why on earth would I want to burn petroleum when I can turn it into natural gas more easily and get dramatically more energy out of it? They might be usable if the refinery didn't lose 50% of your oil and require a dupe to constantly sit there. Yeah. Oil refineries are a pain in the butt. They need a rework to be automatic and not require babysitting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1060919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoakenashi Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 7/7/2018 at 6:58 PM, Coolthulhu said: they are unusable without zero energy airlock pumping Not entirely true. I finally got a steam turbine to run - I guess my stubbornness to not use airlock pumping finally paid off. This guy runs non-stop. And get this, it mostly runs on heat from the surface. Yes there's a volcano in the picture and it does supply heat, but only a portion. It wasn't until I piped heat from the surface did this setup finally pay off. It is a bug that the steam turbine leaks in certain situations. I'm not sure what they are (if you know, please let everyone know), but I have seen this issue before, kind of put me off of steam turbines for a bit. I'm glad I didn't encounter that issue this time around. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1061004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 07/07/2018 at 5:40 PM, Zzerzonat said: The prove of concept shows that it works perfectly except one thing.. the steam turbines leak steam to the top making them absolutely useless in the long run. Even if I will make all those fancy walfromite pressure doors to control the pressure the amount of loss is amazing. I have good news, I reported this as a bug and there are two instances of where gas can slip through, one has been fixed and the devs contacted me to let me know that when the next Upgrade comes out this bug will be gone! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1061086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzerzonat Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 11 hours ago, yoakenashi said: Not entirely true. I finally got a steam turbine to run - I guess my stubbornness to not use airlock pumping finally paid off. That is a great setup! I am glad I am not the only one experiencing this and that Devs are working on solving this. Thatnk You for answers. My idea with Steam turbine was quite simple and if it did not leak I probably would polish it so it will look and work better. so far it was a lil bit de-motivational. Don't judge to harsh my Volcano VS Weezworts setup - they do actually cool the steam down to condensation point=) Here is a Pic: Also I don't want to do extra post for another bug so here is my germanized oil: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1061164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessIAm Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Thanks for sharing this! May we please also see the piping, ventilation, electrical and automation views of your set up? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93209-i-feel-cheated-with-steam-turbines/#findComment-1062832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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