Ambaire Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 When the dirt is emitted from the compost, it still has food poisoning on it, and my dupes are delivering it to my dirt compactors, contaminating the entire stockpile. Either make the emitted dirt not have any germs on it, or let us prevent dupes from transporting germy stuff to a germ free compactor. I can see I won't be bothering with composting outhouse polluted dirt at all... This was never a problem with the ranch update since compost produced fertilizer and I never stockpiled fertilizer, instead letting it build up at the compost forever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Beyond needing to install a sink or two at the front of my kitchen I haven't had any trouble out of it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I've never used them so far so I feel a bit stupid mentioning it. But maybe the germ sensors could help? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambaire Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, Kabrute said: Beyond needing to install a sink or two at the front of my kitchen I haven't had any trouble out of it. The germy dirt is fed to the mealwood, they get contaminated, then it goes to liceloaf production and I get food poisoning in the food. Unless I had 30kg of liceloaf get food poisoning some other way... 17 minutes ago, Yoma_Nosme said: I've never used them so far so I feel a bit stupid mentioning it. But maybe the germ sensors could help? This is in the pre-plastic era... don't have a bathroom with plumbing, even. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I could see a dupe delivering germy dirt and in that instant taking on a load of germs then grabbing a meal lice infecting it and heading to the kitchens...... o.o so that is definitely a super common scenario that is going to happen over and over again, makes me think folks should avoid making dirt until after mealwood becomes strictly a drecko food imo, I don't set up compost until my plumbing is installed and all of that goes in as a single unit around cycle 60. Yeah thats gonna be a nightmare. o.o I normally set up a small bathroom research deodorizer very early on then just ignore the waste products of the bathroom in the bathroom. Free air. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambaire Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Kabrute said: I normally set up a small bathroom research deodorizer very early on then just ignore the waste products of the bathroom in the bathroom. Free air. I tried this but all my dupes ended up getting sick from food poisoning... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I dont see the problem here... Get suits if you want them to go into hazard-areas. On the way out they have to clean hands, and decontaminate the dirt. Everythings fine? Yes its not quick and easy. Its ONI Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambaire Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, SharraShimada said: I dont see the problem here... Get suits if you want them to go into hazard-areas My early game bathroom consists of two wash basins and two outhouses. Past the outhouses, I usually put two compost things. With the experimental update, the compost produces dirt. The dirt still has food poisoning germs when it's expelled from the compost. My supply dupes take that dirt and put it in the main dirt compactors and/or feed it to meal lice, contaminating the meal lice. I think you misread my OP. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Only thing I can suggest is dig into the nearest jungle biome and place a compacter in chlorine and set it to priority 9 dirt Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambaire Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 51 minutes ago, Neotuck said: Only thing I can suggest is dig into the nearest jungle biome and place a compacter in chlorine and set it to priority 9 dirt That, or a chlorine compost room, I guess. This is why we need material checkpoints at an early point in the game. Set them to x material may pass this way but may not be taken the other. Would help so much... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 as I said, you seem to be borrowing trouble then complaining your getting it, dont build composters until after you've switched to bristles and you will be fine. You shouldn't need dirt before cycle 100 for any reason anyway, I just ran a colony to cycle 150 last night, the starting biome has enough dirt to feed 14 dupes past cycle 100 and max all research in the process. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Composting to prevent pdirt offgassing is one of the many noob traps in ONI. Leaving crap all over the floor is not harmful (except for decor hit), dupes can't get food poisoning from air. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambaire Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: dupes can't get food poisoning from air. .. huh, could have sworn they could. But you're right, just did a sandbox test, put 1mil germ count PO in the starting area and waited half a cycle, nada. Wonder if that's a bug or intended. e. although.. Food Poisoning, Slime Lung, I suppose it makes sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 12 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: Composting to prevent pdirt offgassing is one of the many noob traps in ONI. Leaving crap all over the floor is not harmful (except for decor hit), dupes can't get food poisoning from air. have no problem with my compost for now you can also using a ore scrubber to avoid this Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Yeah flydo beat me to it, an ore scrubber would solve your problem. But all I do is leave my poop on the ground, its free oxygen, and free hatch food if you get sage hatches Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuch Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 ... I'm sorry but while the answers all make sense by the game rules, I gotta agee with the opening post that this does feel like a problem. I'm aware ONI is not an acurate simulation and doesn't try to be but when things get that downright counterintuitive; and 'Leave rotting **** all over the floor, it's more hygienic in the long run than composting it" is pretty counterintuitive, this is kind of bad. May I suggest what would be a fairly quick (and I think not too complicated to implement) fix o that problem by letting the option of havng Duplicants wash ingredients in sinks or bassins before eating or cooking them ? I mean it s what anyone with a vegetable garden do and Duplicant AI behavior wise you'rejsut ading an extra step (maybe skippable if the duplicant is starving or y'know there's no bassin or sink disponible) to what they already do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1044975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I assume since it doesnt count as Ore you cannot use the ore scrubber XD. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1045017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredhp Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 In the beginning, just 'wash hands' and its ok. Later game i store all food into a chlorinated storage and set the food consumption to never allow duplicants eat unprocessed food, with some converyours belts automation the raw food goes to the storage, then to the "kitchen" and, finally, to mess hall. Mess hall have a "underground" title, which eventually get filled with CO2, preservating food forever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1045120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariilyn Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Storing the food about to be eaten in a powered fridge (or an ice biome) should resolve any food contamination problem. Food poisoning germs proliferate in a CO2 environment if the stored food is at room temperature, but they die off in a refrigerated environment. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1045369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Mariilyn said: Storing the food about to be eaten in a powered fridge (or an ice biome) should resolve any food contamination problem. Food poisoning germs proliferate in a CO2 environment if the stored food is at room temperature, but they die off in a refrigerated environment. I always save food in a CO2 environnement to conserve it but never have a food contamination problem, i don't really what new with the compost cause compost don't generate germ in my point of view Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1045478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 10 hours ago, BlueLance said: I assume since it doesnt count as Ore you cannot use the ore scrubber XD. Don't use the ore scrubber for the contaminated food, use it next to the compost in both direction so if something go to the compost with disease or the dirt going out the compost have it the dupe will use the ore scrubber 14 hours ago, BlueLance said: Yeah flydo beat me to it, an ore scrubber would solve your problem. But all I do is leave my poop on the ground, its free polluted oxygen, and free hatch food if you get sage hatches Not exactly the same, don't exchange food poisoning with slimelung Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1045717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariilyn Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 19 hours ago, Flydo said: I always save food in a CO2 environnement to conserve it but never have a food contamination problem, i don't really what new with the compost cause compost don't generate germ in my point of view I do the same and I don't really monitor germs in the compost, however sometimes stored food get contaminated and it seems the germs won't go away if the food isn't refrigerated. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1046631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 22 hours ago, Mariilyn said: I do the same and I don't really monitor germs in the compost, however sometimes stored food get contaminated and it seems the germs won't go away if the food isn't refrigerated. I never see trouble, but maybe because i manage germ pretty well in my base (have sink proabably every where i think it can make trouble especially in front of my kitchen and food storage), i will look over it to see how the germ move from a composted polluted dirt Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1048301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicearific Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I feel like the obvious solution of putting a wheezewhort beside your pile has been missed. I put a few compost piles in my slime room (full of PO2, 3 wheezewhorts, probably 160 tiles big) and the dirt was coming off clean. Or, more appropriately, most of the P. Dirt was already clean when it went in because of the temp. You could also use the ore scrubber, but honestly that feels like more work than is needed. Just a wort or two around your compost pile(s) should do the trick. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91611-the-new-compost-dirt-production-is-causing-major-disease-contamination-of-my-dirt-stockpile/#findComment-1048930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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