Oozinator Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The "Perlator ™" when standard oxygen generators are not cool enough for you! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I'm not entirely sure what I am looking at. An O2 cooler? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-992870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindThisGame Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I think it makes coffee. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-992884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Nah. It's pink. Must be some kind of girlie iced tea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-992886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thank you, for your nice feedback @Zarquan & @GrindThisGame & @Saturnus i use that to improve customer friendliness! Based on customer- and consumerwishes, "Perlator - Eco - Mini" was born. It's more eco and mini. like the big one, but it's doing similar cool things, like the "mothership"! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-992891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindThisGame Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Can you explain how it works @Oozinator ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-992892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
donutman07 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, GrindThisGame said: Can you explain how it works @Oozinator ? It "perlates" duh Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-992898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, GrindThisGame said: Can you explain how it works @Oozinator ? Sure Sir. Hydrogen is climbing up, temperatures not. It's standard oxygen generator pump and hydrogen gen setup, but with combined cooling of everything. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-992901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu_x32 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 seems like a nice and original approach. Can you share more pics (pipes for example) or a sav file? do the wheezeworths create gas circulation through those tunnels, I guess so? Kinda cool! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-993066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 hours ago, manu_x32 said: seems like a nice and original approach. Can you share more pics (pipes for example) or a sav file? do the wheezeworths create gas circulation through those tunnels, I guess so? Kinda cool! Thank you. I better share the save, when i share templates, everything is disconnected. Some other stuff there too Wheezie circulation yes. When you use wheezies for that, you have to take care, that only one sort of gas is in the "cooling wheezie tunnel". Have phun. Edit, Changed savefile ^^ TTCCEdit.sav Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-993113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 1/14/2018 at 4:01 PM, Oozinator said: Thank you, for your nice feedback @Zarquan & @GrindThisGame & @Saturnus i use that to improve customer friendliness! Based on customer- and consumerwishes, "Perlator - Eco - Mini" was born. It's more eco and mini. like the big one, but it's doing similar cool things, like the "mothership"! the perlator2.jpg doesn't show up?? @Oozinator ?? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Denisetwin said: the perlator2.jpg doesn't show up?? @Oozinator ?? Dunno why, here you go Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltirn Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 wheeze provides enough cooling for that, or is it using an exploit? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Drip cooling, drip cooling everywhere Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltirn Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Ah how sad. Not to fault the OP's ingenuity but I would really like to see some sophisticated machines in this game that don't use exploits. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Giltirn said: Ah how sad. Not to fault the OP's ingenuity but I would really like to see some sophisticated machines in this game that don't use exploits. Based on the triggers for the cooling bug to occur, it's 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% impossible to do. You can minimize it's effects, but you can't eliminate. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Giltirn said: Ah how sad. Not to fault the OP's ingenuity but I would really like to see some sophisticated machines in this game that don't use exploits. I tried many games, to avoid them, played without debug, pure survival. At some point, drip bug happened accidentally and it was a bit frustrating.. Sometimes, when the temperature difference between liquids is small, you don't get even aware of the bug, but i see it a bit different now. Borgcube or Perlator is working without the bug, but it's supported by it, in a "turbo way". That means, it's not a pure cheat and the chance to trigger it by accident is high. Game has some other bugs too (changing with updates, drip bug is there forever now). I am not sure, but the mechanic is part of the ingame calculations and to fix it, could be to complicated, to get it ever done (hard code work/engine). Game is fun to play, not a science simulator, or technically / logically, but i take it now, how it comes and don't care. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodingKitteh Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Oozinator said: Game is fun to play, not a science simulator, or technically / logically, but i take it now, how it comes and don't care. I am glad people are enjoying ONI but I must say it sure wouldn't be fun if we all just play in debug mode. "Click" = endless oxygen or anything you like. Or if the game develops into the direction of: Wizard Dupe profession just use mana to summon more water! There should be a balance the "magic" (physical adjustments due to scale/programmability) of ONI while obeying it's selling point, a thermodynamically based world. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Oozinator said: I tried many games, to avoid them, played without debug, pure survival. At some point, drip bug happened accidentally and it was a bit frustrating.. Sometimes, when the temperature difference between liquids is small, you don't get even aware of the bug, but i see it a bit different now. Borgcube or Perlator is working without the bug, but it's supported by it, in a "turbo way". That means, it's not a pure cheat and the chance to trigger it by accident is high. Game has some other bugs too (changing with updates, drip bug is there forever now). I am not sure, but the mechanic is part of the ingame calculations and to fix it, could be to complicated, to get it ever done (hard code work/engine). Game is fun to play, not a science simulator, or technically / logically, but i take it now, how it comes and don't care. ditto this. Thanks for posting the screen shot, how is the hydrogen output? Does it matter anymore that the electrolizers are not touching hydrogen ? I am trying to build a new set up in a new ranching survival, I love your design but need/want excess hydrogen too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, Denisetwin said: ditto this. Thanks for posting the screen shot, how is the hydrogen output? Does it matter anymore that the electrolizers are not touching hydrogen ? I am trying to build a new set up in a new ranching survival, I love your design but need/want excess hydrogen too. Yes, the hydro - flow mechanic is still working. I am not sure if the savefile is still working, i posted above. One thing about those compact designs: Those combined cooling mechanics are only needed, when electrolyzers are running most of the time. Then they generate heat and that is a problem, that must be solved. When you have for example 1 electrolyzer running whole time, then you have all the heat at that single spot. As soon as you install pumps in that heated area, to transfer hydro / O2, heat is spreading, insulation needed. When you build 20 electrolyzers, they don't produce more or less of anything, but you have a nicer distributuion of anything. In your case, you want exess hydro. Easy solution store excess O2, could use that for exos later. Suck it up, store it, let hydro raise to the top free, shape a dome at top, where you collect all that precious hydro and no need for additional cooling. I like to freeze things too, but when it thaws everything fails.. For O² i use such a thing. When the right pumpsensor is above 1111.9 it sucks / filters o² and stores it in the Bunker, but only when exosuit line is filled up completely. When bunker is full, but pump has nothing to pump (could not refill exosuitline), it opens up bunkerdoor with left sensor. The small pic is a bunker/storage for any gas. When i post pictures, there is for sure stuff based on other forum members creations, even the impulse for the perlator came from Saturnus designs, to some percentage. Not inventing the wheel new. Easy dome, has positive effects, run down a hydropipe, build hydrogens and feed them from the chain. When you are down in the oil biome with the pipe, you have many ways to support the hydrogen gens, through other generators. (I built yesterday a nice stressfree oilcooker, without heattransfer and integrated gascooling 1° output temp ^^). Theoretically i could scale up everything now, because i have so much energy, but why? More of everything, means not all times = better in any way. More pumps - energy + heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Oozinator said: In your case, you want exess hydro. Easy solution store excess O2, could use that for exos later Okay that makes sense, I'm a visual learner, so these really help, thanks for the vent photo as well, I tried one time to build one and used water and the water kept pressurizing away from the vent - I gave up on it, I'll try this. I'm trying to figure this out for a better build than my last base, I had a large tall room around an AETN that was making ice that I used for all kinds of cooling things. it worked, but I often had to check to see if the oxygen / hydrogen mix was good and one wasn't reaching the other's area making me short on it. I had spaghetti pipes..... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlineous Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 17 hours ago, Giltirn said: Ah how sad. Not to fault the OP's ingenuity but I would really like to see some sophisticated machines in this game that don't use exploits. You want exploit-free? I present Domelineous™, 101% exploit free! (Ok, I might have missed another exploit, and the mechanism to activate the wheezeworts could be considered an exploit as well). I tested the system for a few dozen cycles and it's stable. Output of course depends partially on oxygen pressure throughout the base, but I saw outputs between 350 and 450 kilograms of oxygen per cycle. Domelineous.yaml Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltirn Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, onlineous said: You want exploit-free? I present Domelineous™, 101% exploit free! (Ok, I might have missed another exploit, and the mechanism to activate the wheezeworts could be considered an exploit as well). I tested the system for a few dozen cycles and it's stable. Output of course depends partially on oxygen pressure throughout the base, but I saw outputs between 350 and 450 kilograms of oxygen per cycle. Domelineous.yaml Very nice, thank you! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86438-perlator-most-efficient-machine-for-cooling-oxygen-generation-cheap-and-easy-to-build/#findComment-1017867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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