hyiltiz Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Refueling mechanism worked exceptionally well for maglum so that it changed from yet another Ruins item that no one crafts except for just for the sakes of being luxurious and collecting every in-game item, to something people really want if they happen to get to Ruins. Sentence above is too long: Refueling maglum made it useful. So, refueling mechanism worked out rather well, and I guess since it passed its test, can we introduce it to make yet another almost useless thing useful? I am talking about: EDIT: forager~ talking about amulets Making lazy explorer forager refuelable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemporaryMan Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Lazy explorer was already good enough people would actually make it. The lazy forager, on the other hand... ...would still be useless. Oh well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 21 hours ago, TemporaryMan said: Lazy explorer was already good enough people would actually make it I think a refueling rate of 1 fuel per poof would be pretty balanced for it, though. Edit: I quoted the explorer, guys. I was talking about the explorer. What do I think about the forager? To be honest... I don't think about the forager. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahlsen Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Seems indeed mandatory to me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiturcaClaudiuStef Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 i don't use the lazy explore neither the lazy forager to me the cane seems better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterStuffed Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Unless the Lazy Forager is given the ability to pick grass, twigs, etc. It would continue to be useless. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyiltiz Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 6 hours ago, rezecib said: I think a refueling rate of 1 fuel per poof would be pretty balanced for it, though. Wow, we are talking about refueling with lightbulbs instead of nightmare fuel? 1 nmf/poof is damn expensive; if you wanna pick up nmf with the forager, u never gain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaterion Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, hyiltiz said: Wow, we are talking about refueling with lightbulbs instead of nightmare fuel? 1 nmf/poof is damn expensive; if you wanna pick up nmf with the forager, u never gain. i think he was talking about the staff? atleast that sounds more reasonable for the staff Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWesternWilson Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I already refuel laziness. … WITH PRETZELS. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 hour ago, WildWesternWilson said: I already refuel laziness. … WITH PRETZELS. No that's just fueling existing laziness 2 hours ago, PiturcaClaudiuStef said: i don't use the lazy explore neither the lazy forager to me the cane seems better. Explorer's dope. It's the cane, but with the added perk of teleporting. Sure it has durability but its only used when telepoofing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWesternWilson Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 26 minutes ago, AnonymousKoala said: No that's just fueling existing laziness Explorer's dope. It's the cane, but with the added perk of teleporting. Sure it has durability but its only used when telepoofing. Yeah, if you're careful, you can use the telepoof a few times and then just use it as a cane later on. Which is awesommeeee Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyiltiz Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Aquaterion said: i think he was talking about the staff? atleast that sounds more reasonable for the staff Oh right, "poof" sounds like @rezecib was talking about the explorer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 hour ago, hyiltiz said: Oh right, "poof" sounds like @rezecib was talking about the explorer. Poofs are what the foragers does as well though. But 1 fuel - 1 poof...why. The biggest issue I have with forager is that it doesnt pick up full stacks(so just picking up is better), it doesnt harvest things, and it pickups tooth traps too. If even the last 2 would be fixed, and you could refuel it, it would have a pretty dope role(either clearing out tooth trap fields or mass harvesting things), as small as it still would be Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaterion Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, AnonymousKoala said: Poofs are what the foragers does as well though. But 1 fuel - 1 poof...why. The biggest issue I have with forager is that it doesnt pick up full stacks(so just picking up is better), it doesnt harvest things, and it pickups tooth traps too. If even the last 2 would be fixed, and you could refuel it, it would have a pretty dope role(either clearing out tooth trap fields or mass harvesting things), as small as it still would be but you might not want to harvest certain things around you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyths Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 nm fuel - 50% durability for the lazy forager would sound much more reasonable (though I hope it doesn't break once it reaches 0% like the magilumin, because that's downright frustrating). Allowing it to harvest saplings, farms, drying racks, etc would make it prove much more coveted and versatile as previously stated from others, hence 'forager' and not 'picker-upper'. It would probably get more girls than me, but that's beside the point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gyths said: 1 nm fuel - 50% durability for the lazy forager would sound much more reasonable (though I hope it doesn't break once it reaches 0% like the magilumin, because that's downright frustrating). Allowing it to harvest saplings, farms, drying racks, etc would make it prove much more coveted and versatile as previously stated from others, hence 'forager' and not 'picker-upper'. It would probably get more girls than me, but that's beside the point. Exactly. It would make it the mass harvesting item, instead of the "why did you craft that" item that it is now 1 hour ago, Aquaterion said: but you might not want to harvest certain things around you But thats an issue already existing with the lazy forager. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaterion Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, AnonymousKoala said: But thats an issue already existing with the lazy forager. but that you can simple drop them, if you mistakely harvest a berry bush, you can't place the berries back, simply putting them back on the floor, they'll still start rotting Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyiltiz Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 8 hours ago, Gyths said: 1 nm fuel - 50% durability for the lazy forager would sound much more reasonable (though I hope it doesn't break once it reaches 0% like the magilumin, because that's downright frustrating). Allowing it to harvest saplings, farms, drying racks, etc would make it prove much more coveted and versatile as previously stated from others, hence 'forager' and not 'picker-upper'. It would probably get more girls than me, but that's beside the point. Let's don't change the name to: The Lazy Picker-upper Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumalu Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 The lazy forager is pretty lame as-is. You might be able to snag tallbird eggs, or snatch up some gear in a bad spot you had died in, but after you complete ruins neither of those are likely to be a big thing; almost exclusively an item for "I died to dragonfly and want my stuff without getting beat up some". It'd be much better if you could instant-harvest so it was indeed for lazy high-speed foraging. And yeah, for such an effect, refueling seems reasonable. I can understand the starcaller and green gem items not being refuelable. Telepoofing... is fairly strong so whilst I -wish- you could refuel at a bad exchange rate, I'd understand not. Lazy Forager with both refueling and proper foraging capability still only just nudges into being something worth making (do you want to go through nightmare fuel to harvest grass faster? ...well, after ruins, you might have a lot on hand, actually.) Meanwhile, all the refuelable items shouldn't disappear on 0%, for obvious reasons. Losing any of them (most easily maglum) because you whoopsied would be a pain in the neck since those gems are almost nonrenewable. (Not entirely, but almost!) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyiltiz Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Tumalu said: The lazy forager is pretty lame as-is. You might be able to snag tallbird eggs, or snatch up some gear in a bad spot you had died in, but after you complete ruins neither of those are likely to be a big thing; almost exclusively an item for "I died to dragonfly and want my stuff without getting beat up some". It'd be much better if you could instant-harvest so it was indeed for lazy high-speed foraging. And yeah, for such an effect, refueling seems reasonable. I can understand the starcaller and green gem items not being refuelable. Telepoofing... is fairly strong so whilst I -wish- you could refuel at a bad exchange rate, I'd understand not. Lazy Forager with both refueling and proper foraging capability still only just nudges into being something worth making (do you want to go through nightmare fuel to harvest grass faster? ...well, after ruins, you might have a lot on hand, actually.) Meanwhile, all the refuelable items shouldn't disappear on 0%, for obvious reasons. Losing any of them (most easily maglum) because you whoopsied would be a pain in the neck since those gems are almost nonrenewable. (Not entirely, but almost!) Not only there. Yes, refuable items shouldn't disappear when they are "out of fuel". After all, when it is out of fuel, it is merely empty; it is just another empty vessel. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67885-refuel-laziness/#findComment-779949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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