So... What does Elsewhere mean for Together?

[Dinosaur Meat]

16 hours ago, BezKa said:

I am so curious why they added skill trees to together while they had a whole another game cooking. Why change an established game so much when you have a fresh, clean slate already in the making?

 

Because people still play DST and DSE isn't out yet for at least another year I would assume. Just because a new game is coming out doesn't mean content for DST should completely halt.

16 hours ago, BezKa said:

I am so curious why they added skill trees to together while they had a whole another game cooking. Why change an established game so much when you have a fresh, clean slate already in the making?

 

Because people still play DST and DSE isn't out yet for at least another year I would assume. Just because a new game is coming out doesn't mean content for DST should completely halt.

[Mysterious box]

13 hours ago, HowlVoid said:

Im more surprised more people dont think that this is completely separate from dst and does not affect dst.

Klei works on multiple games at once and has been steadily expanding since they got money from tencent. 

Why would this not have a separate team and completely separate developement? Just because they share a name? Hamlet was worked on alonside DST, and that was when they were smaller.

I don't think it'll be completely separate unless the game is somehow confirmed to be a prequel it puts a cap on the story developments of dst going forward because once we get an established story for the game the events of dst cannot contridict it. While I do think it's too soon to tell completely I do think dst will eventually be replaced by dse if they do decide to make it like dst but with more potential and the ability to improve on existing mechanics in ways dst never could. That being said I don't believe dst will fall off within the next 3 years it's still a game with a lot of content and even ds still has it's crowd.

 

My personal hope is that they try to carry as much of the roster forward as they can and this becomes just as beloved as dst is. Though if not I hope they keep mod support up so people can start implementing dst into dse as that would be such a cool moding concept.

[xDarkSoul18x]

18 hours ago, Maxil20 said:

TLDR from Klei themselves:


The long haul will most likely entail that DST has a slower rate of updates, but is not completely stopped. I imagine after the arc finishes, they go back to updates like Waterlogged/Moon Quay; Content that is accessible immediately and comes with QOL benefits/improvements for a variety of playstyles.

I feel both games will have equal reasons to exist for a long while. Elsewhere seems like a very different experience than DST. I know a lot of people will like that, but a good chunk of them won't enjoy that. Regardless of what people's opinions are on the game's state, this game is home to a lot of people who find comfort in the game they have played for years at this point. I don't see everyone flocking off to play Elsewhere, at least not in the long term.

Regarding skins, given how Elsewhere is going for an entirely new artstyle, I highly doubt most, if any skins, will transfer over to Elsewhere. If they do, it will most likely be things like the proof of purchase skins for buying the plushes.

Overall, this is very likely going to impact DST's development, but it shouldn't stop it. DST is still fairly robust (especially compared to the codebase of DS), and should likely sustain updates for a good while without significant technical challenges. Remember, DST was developed when DS was getting SW, and it still got HAM and a massive QOL update, even with it's much more difficult to work codebase!

This! I still play Solo DS to this day, and they even just gave it one big update recently. It plays and feels a lot different to DST. My only concern is they are just making a new game entirely to "Fix" the problems that should have been addressed in DST. But they said it's getting more updates so hopefully that won't be the case. I trust them in that they learned from the previous games and can plan better for the future. New game being co-co is already a plus! Excited but still skeptical. 

[BezKa]

3 hours ago, Dinosaur Meat said:

Because people still play DST and DSE isn't out yet for at least another year I would assume. Just because a new game is coming out doesn't mean content for DST should completely halt.

I don't like skill trees and I think they don't belong in DST. There's plenty of content to add to DST instead of those, and we did get it so I don't really see an issue here

[Wumpair]

1 hour ago, xDarkSoul18x said:

This! I still play Solo DS to this day, and they even just gave it one big update recently. It plays and feels a lot different to DST. My only concern is they are just making a new game entirely to "Fix" the problems that should have been addressed in DST. But they said it's getting more updates so hopefully that won't be the case. I trust them in that they learned from the previous games and can plan better for the future. New game being co-co is already a plus! Excited but still skeptical. 

Well I imagine that if some (new) mechanics and QoL in DSE are enjoyed by the comunity they might bring it to DST in some way. Like they did with DS: they portet over the bundling wrap, the ability to tame beefaloes, the reworked ancient guardian fight with the ability to regen the ruins and much more. So you know, they might "fix" these problems in DST, idk maybe people will like swiming in DSE a lot and they will bring it to DST aswell (or at least for Wurt). 

[DegenerateFurry]

54 minutes ago, Wumpair said:

Well I imagine that if some (new) mechanics and QoL in DSE are enjoyed by the comunity they might bring it to DST in some way. Like they did with DS: they portet over the bundling wrap, the ability to tame beefaloes, the reworked ancient guardian fight with the ability to regen the ruins and much more. So you know, they might "fix" these problems in DST, idk maybe people will like swiming in DSE a lot and they will bring it to DST aswell (or at least for Wurt). 

If nothing else, modders are sure to copy over some things here and there. In the long-term, we might see full-on DST adaptations of DSE like we've seen with the Hamlet and Shipwrecked mods that exist for DST, although I suspect the gameplay difference would be far greater with DSE and that might not be as possible.

[Well-met]

1 hour ago, BezKa said:

I don't like skill trees and I think they don't belong in DST. There's plenty of content to add to DST instead of those, and we did get it so I don't really see an issue here

RIP to all the potential biome and worldgen updates we could have had instead of the 10 years spent on updating the same characters multiple times

[Draggofroot]

8 hours ago, Well-met said:

RIP to all the potential biome and worldgen updates we could have had instead of the 10 years spent on updating the same characters multiple times

biome updates would probably be the worst thing to happen to DST, its not infinite world gen like MC so there's only so much you can fit in DST's map, and chanigng biomes would mean having to retrofit (potentially causing problems) or just regenning the world altogether (sucky) so its just very restrictive, thats why SW and Hamlet took place outside the mainland

Elsewhere is cool cuz now Klei got a whole new area to mess around with and experiment without needing to worry about affecting existing things and current metas

Edited April 11 by Draggofroot

[Cheggf]

On 4/9/2026 at 8:22 PM, HowlVoid said:

Im more surprised more people dont think that this is completely separate from dst and does not affect dst.

Klei works on multiple games at once and has been steadily expanding since they got money from tencent. 

Why would this not have a separate team and completely separate developement? Just because they share a name? Hamlet was worked on alonside DST, and that was when they were smaller.

 I think this is somewhat true. DST's updates have really slowed down compared to what they used to be, and I wouldn't be surprised if Elsewhere was the reason why. I would expect DST to continue receiving updates at its current slower pace, and if they don't plan on long-term support for Elsewhere updates DST might return to its prior speed once they're done with Elsewhere. 

[Mike23Ua]

5 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

 I think this is somewhat true. DST's updates have really slowed down compared to what they used to be, and I wouldn't be surprised if Elsewhere was the reason why. I would expect DST to continue receiving updates at its current slower pace, and if they don't plan on long-term support for Elsewhere updates DST might return to its prior speed once they're done with Elsewhere. 

Elsewhere rather anyone cares to admit to it right now or not will completely replace DST at some point, even if that means that Klei has to go through such extremes as to kill support for DST so that players flock to DSE, and the reason why I can so confidently proclaim this is that after putting in that much time and effort in development resources to produce a new project with updated animations, new biomes, mobs and resources, they obviously won’t just be “Done” with their new vision of DS and revert back to DST.

If ANYTHING they’ll port over all the content they can from DST, so it’s easier for players to transition over into DSE.

Kinda like how GTA V has existed across FOUR console generations but each time our progress could be transferred over into the new version of the game..?

[Cheggf]

26 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Elsewhere rather anyone cares to admit to it right now or not will completely replace DST at some point, even if that means that Klei has to go through such extremes as to kill support for DST so that players flock to DSE, and the reason why I can so confidently proclaim this is that after putting in that much time and effort in development resources to produce a new project with updated animations, new biomes, mobs and resources, they obviously won’t just be “Done” with their new vision of DS and revert back to DST.

If ANYTHING they’ll port over all the content they can from DST, so it’s easier for players to transition over into DSE.

Kinda like how GTA V has existed across FOUR console generations but each time our progress could be transferred over into the new version of the game..?

You mean like how they ported over Hamlet and Shipwrecked to DST?

[Auth]

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Kinda like how GTA V has existed across FOUR console generations but each time our progress could be transferred over into the new version of the game..?

The different GTA V editions are, for the most part, only graphical and performance boosts; the actual game is kept exactly the same. That comparison is apples to oranges.

[ExplodTallbirds]

realisticly don't starve together has 2~ years left of content updates.. which is really sad considering lots of us grew up with these games.. but hey what about the old reward code "herestotenmore"? totally means we get 10 more years of updates 

[Edible Coal]

2 hours ago, UltimateFSCd said:

realisticly don't starve together has 2~ years left of content updates.. which is really sad considering lots of us grew up with these games.. but hey what about the old reward code "herestotenmore"? totally means we get 10 more years of updates 

dst sorta reached its max potential anyways, the dev clearly cannot keep making the gameplay longer with only a small amount of expereinced and dedicated player to reach the rift, and redoing the old stuff might cause big issues

[axxel]

It means Together is Elsewhere!

[sealnados]

44 minutes ago, axxel said:

It means Together is Elsewhere!

thank you so much

[Mysterious box]

19 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Elsewhere rather anyone cares to admit to it right now or not will completely replace DST at some point, even if that means that Klei has to go through such extremes as to kill support for DST so that players flock to DSE, and the reason why I can so confidently proclaim this is that after putting in that much time and effort in development resources to produce a new project with updated animations, new biomes, mobs and resources, they obviously won’t just be “Done” with their new vision of DS and revert back to DST.

If ANYTHING they’ll port over all the content they can from DST, so it’s easier for players to transition over into DSE.

Kinda like how GTA V has existed across FOUR console generations but each time our progress could be transferred over into the new version of the game..?

I find it hard to believe this won't replace dst with time people will still play dst but most will likely migrate to dse if it truly ends up being the next dst. There's just things that can be done in this new game that just wouldn't be possible with the current game otherwise they would have attempted them during the current rift arc or dst. New fresh mechanics that expand on what's possible will draw a large crowd as will a new fresh take on survival and base building and just building in general.

[AliceShiki]

On 4/9/2026 at 10:45 PM, Kwaik said:

Having two games that are mostly the same game, competing with itself for money, while doubling overhead, is just a bad business venture.

I can't imagine imagine there's many examples where you have a company regularly updating two versions of the same game for an extended period of time. 

Path of Exile and Path of Exile 2 is the easiest example that comes to mind.

In my view it's a pretty simple thing. DST is currently guaranteed money because it has a stable playerbase that gives a stable amount of money.

DSE is an unknown variable that they don't know how successful it will be, and they don't know how much it will impact DST's money influx.

If DSE underperforms, it might get EoS.

If DSE makes DST start underperforming, DST might get EoS.

If both games end up performing really well, both games will probably keep on receiving updates for the foreseeable future.

So, I honestly doubt that Klei has any real plans for sunsetting DST right now. It's probably something they did talk about internally, but most likely something they won't make any decisions on until they see the numbers... At the end of the day, as long as both games have good profit margins, there is no reason to sunset any of them.

[Kwaik]

19 minutes ago, AliceShiki said:

Path of Exile and Path of Exile 2 is the easiest example that comes to mind.

In my view it's a pretty simple thing. DST is currently guaranteed money because it has a stable playerbase that gives a stable amount of money.

DSE is an unknown variable that they don't know how successful it will be, and they don't know how much it will impact DST's money influx.

If DSE underperforms, it might get EoS.

If DSE makes DST start underperforming, DST might get EoS.

If both games end up performing really well, both games will probably keep on receiving updates for the foreseeable future.

So, I honestly doubt that Klei has any real plans for sunsetting DST right now. It's probably something they did talk about internally, but most likely something they won't make any decisions on until they see the numbers... At the end of the day, as long as both games have good profit margins, there is no reason to sunset any of them.

Path of exile 2 is in early access

But you're right they've said they will keep path of exile 1 around as long as it's "financially viable" 

But you have to keep in mind path of exile is a juggernaut that's made almost a billion dollars in revenue. 

I agree that DST won't get shut down right now. Especially since it's probably 2 years until DSE releases (and they should have overlap anyway) 

My concern is taking splitting resources, particularly in an indie studio. 

[Mike23Ua]

18 minutes ago, Kwaik said:

Path of exile 2 is in early access

But you're right they've said they will keep path of exile 1 around as long as it's "financially viable" 

But you have to keep in mind path of exile is a juggernaut that's made almost a billion dollars in revenue. 

I agree that DST won't get shut down right now. Especially since it's probably 2 years until DSE releases (and they should have overlap anyway) 

My concern is taking splitting resources, particularly in an indie studio. 

Why though? Klei already has their development time and resources split up between all their projects and games, at least this time it’s a Don’t Starve game instead of being something else. I’m pretty sure that “Don’t Starve” is Klei’s biggest and most popular franchise, more so than any of their other franchises..?

[Kwaik]

18 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Why though? Klei already has their development time and resources split up between all their projects and games, at least this time it’s a Don’t Starve game instead of being something else. I’m pretty sure that “Don’t Starve” is Klei’s biggest and most popular franchise, more so than any of their other franchises..?

 

It's a little putting the cart ahead of the horse 

But DSE and DST appear incredibly similar,  like close to the same game. 

Their other projects are compeltely different titles. 

I mean heck if both games have great content I'm happy. 

But if trying to juggle both means the new game gets a half assed effort and suffers? That's not a good thing 

 

I guess at the end of the day the most important question is whether this game will be different enough. Or if it's similar enough that it should be a true replacement 

 

[Edible Coal]

48 minutes ago, Kwaik said:

 

But DSE and DST appear incredibly similar,  like close to the same game. 

 

it takes time for dse to grow apart and become its own identity just like dst

[Mike23Ua]

26 minutes ago, Edible Coal said:

it takes time for dse to grow apart and become its own identity just like dst

It won’t be as hard this time.. because as we’ve already seen with the trailer there’s new biomes, new mobs, new resources, and that one major thing Elevated land that’s going to make all the difference.

I can not stress enough how much the world not being flat anymore is going to change up gameplay, walking off a ledge in the dark, getting knocked off by mobs, running into what is basically a muddy wall  your forced to go around & that’s just surface level gameplay.

[AliceShiki]

4 hours ago, Kwaik said:

Path of exile 2 is in early access

But you're right they've said they will keep path of exile 1 around as long as it's "financially viable" 

But you have to keep in mind path of exile is a juggernaut that's made almost a billion dollars in revenue. 

I agree that DST won't get shut down right now. Especially since it's probably 2 years until DSE releases (and they should have overlap anyway) 

My concern is taking splitting resources, particularly in an indie studio. 

I imagine that both DST and DSE will be running with two completely separate teams, otherwise both teams will be split too thin.

I agree with you that the split resources would be very worrisome though.

Regarding the PoE being a juggernaut thingy... I don't disagree, but also, DST regularly keeps around 50k players... That is honestly pretty huge too. So I think they can afford to run two big live-service games simultaneously.

We'll see when it happens though. For now we can only speculate.

[Jussatoon]

30 minutes ago, AliceShiki said:

For now we can only speculate.

In a negative manner, but I digress.