Community Early/Mid-Game Overhaul Wishlist

[SpuddyBuddy]

So, Klei said that they're going to be going back to polish up the early/mid-game now that the Lunar component of From Beyond is over. Personally, I think that's a great idea! After spending so long working on big spectacle bosses, I think a change of pace is just what everyone needs right about now.

One thing I'd like to see is more variance to the seasonal weather. I personally love all the different weather mechanics of the DSAlone DLCs, but I'm pretty sure Klei's gone on record as saying they don't want to just drag-n-drop content like that, which I can respect. Maybe they could use the Moonstorm system to give us localized blizzards? IDK, I just think it'd be neat to shake up the day-to-day survival a little - something to make having a fully-furnished base not automatically ensure easy survival form then on out.

What about some kind of reputation system with the various follower mobs? Like, if you help spruce up and expand the village he'd give you better trades, or if you kill lots of pigs around the Pig King he'll stop trading with you for a while instead. Maybe if enough players have a really low reputation at the same time you'd start seeing patrols of angry pigs wandering around like in WX's refresh short.

What about y'all? Got any ideas for how to spice up the early survival loop?

Edited July 6, 2025 by TrashLord
Accidentally got distracted while writing and forgot to finish a line

[Captain_Rage]

Pets merely serve as a fun decoration and but please consider doing something about their constant shrieking. It has been obnoxious for almost more than a decade now. >_> Pets in general could be expanded on as a mechanic, though I kind of like that they don't have too big of an / any impact.

[Pet Rock]

I wish that summer and spring would be spiced up a little. They have a lot less content than winter.

Especially wildfires should be revisited, even if the only thing that is added are character quotes when one occurs. Maybe large areas would be marked with an extended smothering time so that wildfires feel more significant (and detectable). An equivalent for pengulls in summer (perhaps a bug) would also be nice.

PS why does snow disappear and appear instantly it is very jarring

[Keknutui]

That's not quite true. When they complete the shadow side, then only then will they be able to do the other part of the game.

But a suggestion with a change of seasons sounds interesting.

[Ridley]

I would love if the early days of Spring didn't instantly freeze me. I don't know why Winter gives a small warning as you approach frostbite temperatures but Spring skips it.

I will also give the prestigious potato cup emote to the patch notes that grant me the ability to disable the insanity filter and noises.

Edited July 6, 2025 by Ridley

[Evelo]

1 hour ago, TrashLord said:

So, Klei said that they're going to be going back to polish up the early/mid-game now that the Lunar component of From Beyond is over.

They did? I don't recall seeing that, where's the link?

 

Anyway just copy pasting what I'd like where I posted this in a different thread:

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List of personal issues/needs with DST that I would like to see addressed to make me want to play the game again seriously.

• Expanding existing biomes, both hostile and non-hostile creatures. Make the world feel more alive. 
• More islands in the Ocean that are dangerous to explore but rewarding to plunder.
• Weather Effects could get worse as time goes on. (Likely not even appearing until Year 2 or 3 to not punish learning players too much)
• Food balancing (both acquisition and values)
• Making Enlightenment actually a negative that doesn't require you to have finished the Lunar Arc. (Gestalts only make you sleepy, seriously where's the danger in that?)
• Armor and Weapon value balancing (Good balance for example is Football Helmet compared to the Cookie Cutter Cap)
• Clothing and Thermal Stone Balancing (Good Balance is Tam O' Shanter effects/insulation value compared to the Beefalo Hat effects/insulation value)
• Non-optional bosses (Either change existing ones or add new ones, good example is Greater Depths Worm and Antlion)
• Skill Tree balancing (namely to make important abilities/items baseline while keeping Skill Trees entirely passive numerical bonuses aside from Picking Lunar or Shadow)
• Crank up difficulty of everything the longer the years go on, maxing out at like year 5 or 10 depending on how crazy you want. (Let it be a deliberate choice when making your world!)
• More World Generation/World Settings options. We got things to make it easier, but not much to make it harder.
• Make the player feel like Prey, not the Predator again.

 

1 hour ago, Captain_Rage said:

Pets merely serve as a fun decoration and but please consider doing something about their constant shrieking. It has been obnoxious for almost more than a decade now. >_> Pets in general could be expanded on as a mechanic, though I kind of like that they don't have too big of an / any impact.

Yeah, I love pets but them having hunger is why I don't use them. It's totally fine for them to be useless and just be little cuties, but why make them scream for food when they don't do anything. Just keep them cute little buggers without the hunger plz.

Edited July 6, 2025 by Evelo

[SpuddyBuddy]

10 minutes ago, Evelo said:

They did? I don't recall seeing that, where's the link?

I believe they mentioned it in the latest RwP stream.

[Keknutui]

30 minutes ago, TrashLord said:

Кажется, они упомянули об этом в последнем выпуске RwP.

Klei were planning to release the finale of Lunar and Shadow, but due to the klei fest, they split this update into 2 parts.

In general, it is initially strange to think that they will begin to engage in another stage of the game without bringing the arc of shadows to a logical end.

[Bumber64]

2 hours ago, TrashLord said:

What about some kind of reputation system with the various follower mobs? Like, if you help spruce up and expand the village he'd give you better trades, or if you kill lots of pigs around the Pig King he'll stop trading with you for a while instead. Maybe if enough players have a really low reputation at the same time you'd start seeing patrols of angry pigs wandering around like in WX's refresh short.

And then Charlie later has you bulldoze it to put in a haunted masque and costume store.

Edited July 6, 2025 by Bumber64

[Frashaw27]

This will not spice up the gameplay loop at all, but please give me an option to create a world that doesn't have so many branches. I can't tell you how peeved I am playing the game and the amount of building areas is shrunk having to compensate for world to look like a dead bush. It's even worse in the caves, that thing looks like I threw spaghetti on the floor. Again, this probably wouldn't be massive but it would help me not be sad because the oasis is the size of a pinky toe.

[Edible Coal]

you know what will be fun? more bosses

[Edible Coal]

1 hour ago, Edible Coal said:

you know what will be fun? more bosses

ok realistically, i want more viable option other then ruin rush in early game, more biome to explore,oppertunity

[BeargerIsCute]

This is a bit nit-picky but for Frostjaw's dialogue he says:

"I'M ON A SEAFOOD DIET. I ONLY EATS IT IF IT'S FROM THE SEA".

I feel like cutting the line in half would make the joke better

You'll hear this punny enemy make a billion obvious puns and jokes while fighting you, so when you hear him say it it's only natural to think he'd make the most low-hanging fruit of a pun. However, while I like the joke he does tell, I feel it's unable to work properly as the punchline is immediately shown after, so the player's expectation can't be subverted, i feel it'd probably work better if it was like: 

"I'M ON A SEAFOOD DIET."
pause for enough time to make the player think: (Oh, he see's food he eats-)
"I ONLY EATS IT IF IT'S FROM THE SEA."

[Reiko24]

More survival mechanics and polishing up, perhaps tweaking and adding new stuff to existing ones. New biomes integrating into the new survival mechanics.

Cheaper teleports with telelocator focus. Really. It’s would still be more expensive than Winona’s teleports. Please let us use 1 gem per teleport. The wand costs 2 purple gems anyway.

[Chewabacca]

Big wishlist that isn't really connected:

• Adjust the Rabbit King so that he doesn't come out to attack newer players who are relying on rabbit morsels to get by. If you're going to tell me that him doing that is good because it punishes them for relying on an "easy" food source: we already have spring.
• In-world fishing handbook or something like that, similar to the gardeneer hat and the cookbook, because the fishing system currently is overcomplicated. Would also help satisfy the completionist instinct in me
• Let us choose which telelocator focus to teleport to when using the staff, instead of just being teleported to the nearest one, so there's more reason to build more focuses. If the cost per teleport remains as high as it does (3.4 purple gems, 0.4 living logs, 0.8 nightmare fuel, and 50 sanity--all of which gets doubled if you're using the staff to teleport back, and doesn't even factor in setup cost), please consider letting us use them in the caves, including the ruins and atrium. 
• Cave seasons (this is what I want most but also what would probably take the most work) so that seasons down there aren't just fall, cold, rainy, and fall 2.0. So much in the world aboveground changes each season besides just the temperature and whether you need an eyebrella, let the world belowground get some changes to. 
• Telegraph the story better: offenders here are mostly Crab King (it is not at all intuitive just from sight that this massive hulk is Pearl's long-lost love who you're supposed to give the pearl to, and while I get that there's a lore reason for that, still doesn't help figure it out) and the exact setup for Fuelweaver. While you can plausibly get all the pieces for Fuelweaver just by poking around, there's no good indication that you need to set everything up in the atrium.

[Milordo]

Very very difficult to chose you know? The "un-balanceness" is so big that you need a highway-long scroll to write down everything in the list and Klei has to take responsibility for it once and for all. Since it's so big, I'll chose my biased favourites.

Caves and Ruins.

That's it. I don't need to add more.
On second place, I would place dresses. A complete balance rework to dresses, together with thermal stones.

On 7/7/2025 at 6:57 AM, Edible Coal said:

you know what will be fun? more bosses

You know that unironically, it is?
We have the "boss fatigue" because Klei pumped them everytime in each update and crammed the most in one point of the game (this is explained later) but in reality, in the large scope, that Klei itself created during the years mind you, we unironically needs more bosses, and I'll just show you with this list:

• First level, aka the Surface, the Forest or the main continent, you chose how you'd like to call it : 

Has in total 9 normal bosses and 4 raid/super bosses 

• Second level of the game, aka the Caves :

Has in total 1 very-recent-alleluia-new normal boss and 1 raid/super boss

• Third level of the game, aka the Ruins :

Has in total just ONE, JUST ONE boss and it's a raid/super boss. One of the most important place in the entire franchise and it has just one. Just one.... 

• Fourth level of the game, aka the Ocean :

Has in total 1 normal boss and 2 raid/super bosses

• And finally fifth level of the game, aka the Lunar Island :

.......Nothing

Obviously final bosses are excluded since....they're final bosses of the game entirely. Werepig is excluded unfortunately because while we fought it so hard during 2023 to have it in the caves as a first second boss of the caves, Klei fricked us over and implemented the experimental "round-boss" we can call it? (of which I always support the creativity of Klei, but still) and maybe it was part of the mystique "great picture" that got burned down this year? Shadow pieces are difficult to place since you can build them wherever, but I guess we can classified them on first level...I'm blind to Rifts and discovering them now. Rabbit king, I'm not even considering him because I'll fight for him to be caves only in the near future and he's also half baked rushed, when I was the only one pointing out during the beta, so let's close a blind eye for him.

You get the point.

[ssbb]

Hello.

We should get a scrapbook keybind option. Also, please load what we were last looking at, instead of defaulting to the top of the list. This would help all players—new and old—when reading info from the scrapbook.

[Jakepeng99]

Here is my ideas.

Sadly post archived.

11 hours ago, Milordo said:

Very very difficult to chose you know? The "un-balanceness" is so big that you need a highway-long scroll to write down everything in the list and Klei has to take responsibility for it once and for all. Since it's so big, I'll chose my biased favourites.

Caves and Ruins.

That's it. I don't need to add more.
On second place, I would place dresses. A complete balance rework to dresses, together with thermal stones.

You know that unironically, it is?
We have the "boss fatigue" because Klei pumped them everytime in each update and crammed the most in one point of the game (this is explained later) but in reality, in the large scope, that Klei itself created during the years mind you, we unironically needs more bosses, and I'll just show you with this list:

• First level, aka the Surface, the Forest or the main continent, you chose how you'd like to call it : 

Has in total 9 normal bosses and 4 raid/super bosses 

• Second level of the game, aka the Caves :

Has in total 1 very-recent-alleluia-new normal boss and 1 raid/super boss

• Third level of the game, aka the Ruins :

Has in total just ONE, JUST ONE boss and it's a raid/super boss. One of the most important place in the entire franchise and it has just one. Just one.... 

• Fourth level of the game, aka the Ocean :

Has in total 1 normal boss and 2 raid/super bosses

• And finally fifth level of the game, aka the Lunar Island :

.......Nothing

Obviously final bosses are excluded since....they're final bosses of the game entirely. Werepig is excluded unfortunately because while we fought it so hard during 2023 to have it in the caves as a first second boss of the caves, Klei fricked us over and implemented the experimental "round-boss" we can call it? (of which I always support the creativity of Klei, but still) and maybe it was part of the mystique "great picture" that got burned down this year? Shadow pieces are difficult to place since you can build them wherever, but I guess we can classified them on first level...I'm blind to Rifts and discovering them now. Rabbit king, I'm not even considering him because I'll fight for him to be caves only in the near future and he's also half baked rushed, when I was the only one pointing out during the beta, so let's close a blind eye for him.

You get the point.

Idk id rather not get any bosses just now they can add bosses there much later.

[Milordo]

1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Idk id rather not get any bosses just now they can add bosses there much later.

Yup same 👍 Just saying that in reality we need more bosses but focused in other areas of the game

[Semind]

10 hours ago, ssbb said:

Hello.

We should get a scrapbook keybind option. Also, please load what we were last looking at, instead of defaulting to the top of the list. This would help all players—new and old—when reading info from the scrapbook.

On the topic of scrapbooks, I wish the updated entries stood out more. I actually do enjoy engaging with collecting character quotes in my scrapbook, but finding the entries with the sparkle is weirdly difficult. I would ask for the ability to sort newly updated entries to the top of the list, but since that would require implementing a whole sorting system I can settle for just making the current indicator of an updated entry be easily spotted when you're scrolling the list moderately quickly. The lightly colored sparkle just doesn't stand out very well from the beige background of the entry icon when it goes across the screen in just a few frames.

[Frosty_Mentos]

On 7/6/2025 at 10:05 PM, Captain_Rage said:

Pets merely serve as a fun decoration and but please consider doing something about their constant shrieking. It has been obnoxious for almost more than a decade now. >_> Pets in general could be expanded on as a mechanic, though I kind of like that they don't have too big of an / any impact.

Instead of being just pets it could be a place to adopt and start ranching animals for resources.

[Well-met]

Temperature variance and precipitations need to stop having predictable patterns.

Everyone knows there's always rain on day 6, that its always colder at the near end of autumn, that temperature magically dials down when the color filter changes. This sort of stuff needs more randomness, badly.

Edited July 9, 2025 by Well-met

[Mike23Ua]

Less Bosses, more content, more weather seasons, effects, mobs that show up during said weather events.

Basically port the entirety of Shipwrecked and Hamlet into DST so the gameplay mechanics from those expansions can become base game content.

Mainly I’m talking about things like Smashing Pots which could contain loot, or could contain some mob that wants to attack you.

Compared to Solo DS + it’s DLCs, DST is literally just a boss fight simulator that’s entire profit & hook to keep people playing it: Is it’s damn Skins. (& maybe the few dlc characters that aren’t in solo DS)

But I’m pretty sure no one is playing to fight Celestial Scion.

[nicolas103]

Honestly, i just want some more items to more viable.

 

Cutless needs a dmg increase.

Boomerangs need a small dmg increase so Wendy, and Wes can kill birds on their own.

Lucy dmg increase. I really do think she should deal spear dmg, but she should at least deal axe dmg minimum.

 

I'd also like to see weaknesses, and resistance in some creatures.

Like Axes dealing more dmg to Treeguards, Pickaxes breaking the guard on Rock Lobsters

 

Like how Volt Goats charge from eletric dmg.

 

Things like this do help with a bit of variety.

[GamePlayer42]

On 7/7/2025 at 7:18 AM, Edible Coal said:

ok realistically, i want more viable option other then ruin rush in early game, more biome to explore,oppertunity

nothing wrong with working on base in autumn