Developer JesseB_Klei Posted June 26, 2025 Developer Share Posted June 26, 2025 Hey everyone. We have some changes that could break loading or saving for some mods. We are requesting the help of testers to see if anything breaks with their unique setups: World creation, dedicated server hosting, normal gameplay, modded sessions for anything, etc. The more that can be thrown at the game to try to break it the better. Early in the development of Don't Starve Together, we had created utility functions with a wide variety of potential use cases as a blanket to let the designers work without too many limitations. We have recently re-evaluated these functions and how they could be used in unintended ways. The changes introduced in this beta have been made to mitigate any potential harmful effects the misuse of these functions might cause. If you encounter any mod related issues in this beta but works outside of the beta please let us know what that mod is with either a crash log or what stopped functioning in it. You can find your relevant crash log files using our helper article at: https://support.klei.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029881191-Logs-and-Useful-Information-for-Bug-Reports-for-Don-t-Starve-Together While this beta is leaning towards players who use mods, any testing done is appreciated even if you do not use mods. View full update 29 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffford W. Posted June 26, 2025 Share Posted June 26, 2025 10 minutes ago, JesseB_Klei said: We are requesting the help of testers to see if anything breaks with their unique setups: World creation, dedicated server hosting, normal gameplay, modded sessions for anything, etc. The more that can be thrown at the game to try to break it the better. Let the game breaking begin! 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left 4 Sharkb8 Posted June 26, 2025 Share Posted June 26, 2025 Oh boy. This sure is... Well it's certainly intimidating to say the least. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted June 26, 2025 Share Posted June 26, 2025 Before having skins I guess there were no real threats back then. Hopefully this doesn't suck for modders too much. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainBO_OM Posted June 26, 2025 Share Posted June 26, 2025 Can we get a proper mod support while we are at it, having most of our stuff breaking? Like some official samples, guides for code, and programms devs use, including NORMAL one for animating, everyone hates Spriter. Workshop is literally dead, nobody wants to learn modding at this point. 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffford W. Posted June 26, 2025 Share Posted June 26, 2025 1 minute ago, RainBO_OM said: Can we get a proper mod support while we are at it, having most of our stuff breaking? Like some official samples, guides for code, and programms devs use, including NORMAL one for animating, everyone hates Spriter. Workshop is literally dead, nobody wants to learn modding at this point. Klei uses Adobe Animate which is Adobe monthly paid product. They picked closest and free to use app. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM Posted June 26, 2025 Share Posted June 26, 2025 Had me a little worried reading this but for what I could test out with the lots of my mods and any I'm familiar with, over many new and real old worlds... I've got nothing to report so just about every mods should be unaffected from my understanding. 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomen77 Posted June 26, 2025 Share Posted June 26, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Cliffford W. said: Klei uses Adobe Animate which is Adobe monthly paid product. They picked closest and free to use app. I would love to have whatever exporter they use as a secondary option in addition to spriter. But I guess they are not allowed to distribute it, or they would have done it already. Edited June 26, 2025 by Anomen77 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted June 26, 2025 Share Posted June 26, 2025 Wording is definitely scary, but I can also attest that at least so far, my mods are all still functioning as well, being character and world gen mods specifically. Seems good at the moment! 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 1 hour ago, -Variant said: Wording is definitely scary, but I can also attest that at least so far, my mods are all still functioning as well, being character and world gen mods specifically. Seems good at the moment! This is the “try to intentionally break our game” update, almost every game has these and I use to actually get paid money for trying to break games, with or without using mods. Heres what you guys need to know: “Breaking a Game” can be as simple as doing something the devs never accounted for. Such as for example: Trying to drop a newer resource introduced in a recent-ish update over into a pond lake right before the Winter Freezes the lake into Ice. this is just an example: I can not confirm if it actually crashes Klei’s game. What I can say for certain though is it’s always fun when developers challenge you to intentionally break their game, it’s even better when they actually pay or reward you to do it (Aka free in game goodies, or physical merchandise swag) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 2 hours ago, RainBO_OM said: Like some official samples, guides for code, and programms devs use, including NORMAL one for animating, everyone hates Spriter. I think Spriter itself is fine for most purposes, but the compiler that puts your animations together into a DST anim file is absolutely abysmal and really really needs an update. Spriter feels pretty good to use once you get the hang of it and figure out how to get around its wonkiness, but that hardly matters when there are a million invisible things you can do wrong that will result in all of your animations entirely breaking once you put them in-game. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 where is my drying rack keli,where is my drying rack keli,where is my drying rack keli 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_Cobra Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 You have opened Pandora's box) 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
liolok Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 6 hours ago, JesseB_Klei said: We have some changes that could break loading or saving for some mods. What functions or APIs are affected exactly? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondr_ Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 Omg it is one beta i am exited of! upd: excited Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 We definitely need official unravel duplicates option now Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, landromat said: We definitely need official unravel duplicates option now i dunno about console but pc has this option Edited June 27, 2025 by gaymime 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 1 minute ago, gaymime said: i dunno about console but pc has this option They mean to unravel all duplicates of all items that they have duplicates of, not to individually unravel duplicates of the one item your currently selecting. As an Xbox player who can not take advantage of buying/selling/trading skins on the skin market, getting duplicates or Skin Rarities AT ALL is entirely pointless. I vote for that unravel all duplicates button to be considered. Because currently: the only thing I use duplicates for is if they’re eligible to be traded in at the Trade Inn for a higher tier skin (9 common = 1 Uncommon) 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
liolok Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 52 minutes ago, gaymime said: i dunno about console but pc has this option Does either "Unravel" or "Unravel Duplicates" button work? As for now? We massively encounter "Couldn't connect to Klei" and game restarts after clicking these buttons. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asgerrr Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 Could we get a list of these functions and the breaking changes that have been made to them? It would be easier for mod developers to just review their usage of these functions and check if they are still compatible rather than trying to test everything in their mod. 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 3 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: They mean to unravel all duplicates of all items that they have duplicates of, not to individually unravel duplicates of the one item your currently selecting. As an Xbox player who can not take advantage of buying/selling/trading skins on the skin market, getting duplicates or Skin Rarities AT ALL is entirely pointless. I vote for that unravel all duplicates button to be considered. Because currently: the only thing I use duplicates for is if they’re eligible to be traded in at the Trade Inn for a higher tier skin (9 common = 1 Uncommon) unraveling mod had filter for tradeable items only so you can unravel only items that have no other use but spools Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 2 hours ago, liolok said: Does either "Unravel" or "Unravel Duplicates" button work? As for now? We massively encounter "Couldn't connect to Klei" and game restarts after clicking these buttons. i think right now klei is working on some issues from skin exploits being foisted on users who play in modded forums atm so doubtful. i know a fair number of people are saying they cant unravel right now Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_Cobra Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 (edited) @liolok Wait, I don't quite get it. Is your problem that you can't untangle duplicates without mods at all, or can't untangle duplicates with mods? Edited June 27, 2025 by secretgalaxy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semind Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 4 hours ago, asgerrr said: Could we get a list of these functions and the breaking changes that have been made to them? It would be easier for mod developers to just review their usage of these functions and check if they are still compatible rather than trying to test everything in their mod. I would think they're not going to divulge info about changes they made to potentially block off bad actors. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
liolok Posted June 27, 2025 Share Posted June 27, 2025 2 hours ago, secretgalaxy said: @liolok Wait, I don't quite get it. Is your problem that you can't untangle duplicates without mods at all, or can't untangle duplicates with mods? vanilla game, the two "Unravel" button above. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166712-game-update-676724/#findComment-1824514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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