Sacco Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 So... (almost) every single body armor sucks compared to head armors, in particular thulecite suit. Thulecite suit, compared to the crown, costs more and doesn't have an ability like the head counterpart (it has more uses and gives sanity tho) Overall the suit sucks, and needs some sort of a buff, to give more sense to the "HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD" concept of this craftable. So, here's how i'd change it. Make it so you can socket gems in it with different effects: - RED GEM: gives you hp equal to a % based on your current hp every 5 seconds (15 when at 1 hp and 0 when at 150 and above), but only for the next 30 seconds after getting attacked (timer resets on hit) - BLU GEM: you leave an ice trail behind you which slows enemies down by a fair bit (30%?) and it lasts for 4 seconds on the ground - PURPLE GEM: immunity to knockback (not stun) - ORANGE GEM: when getting hit you have a 12.5% chance of teleporting within the proximate vicinity of the attacker, deaggroing him for 1 second - YELLOW GEM: when you hit an enemy you gain 1% speed boost (up to 30%), the speed boost is lost after getting hit - GREEN GEM: for every 51 damage you armor repairs by 1 hp (damage boost are not taken into consideration and when hitting Chester or Hutch, a wall or a punchingbag the armor is not repaired) GEMS CAN'T BE REMOVED FROM THE ARMOR Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 I never though of suits needing a buff. They are really great and the cost isnt a problem with such durability Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted August 24, 2024 Author Share Posted August 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, arubaro said: I never though of suits needing a buff. They are really great and the cost isnt a problem with such durability i mean, the crown has the same durability per thuelecite piece (210) but it also has an interesting and useful ability. The suit, compared to the crown doesn't have any upside (sanity given by it is worthless imo compaeed to the force field) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChintzyGnat Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Sacco said: i mean, the crown has the same durability per thuelecite piece (210) but it also has an interesting and useful ability. The suit, compared to the crown doesn't have any upside (sanity given by it is worthless imo compaeed to the force field) You can use both at the same time prolonging the durability by alot. Thuelsite suits are fine imo, I prefer the armor compared to hat post rift due to cc crown. But pre rift both are very nice in fights so I make both. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 Suits are great. Thulecite suit is especially great because of the durability and the fact that it can be rushed. It’s better just armor-wise than brightshade armor against non-planar although it is harder to create/retain (no repair kit). Toss off the backpack when going into a serious enough fight. Keep the headslot like crown/eyebrella/other armor/moggles/miners hat. It just costs some time before and after the fight to pick up the backpack again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted August 24, 2024 Author Share Posted August 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, ChintzyGnat said: You can use both at the same time prolonging the durability by alot. Thuelsite suits are fine imo, I prefer the armor compared to hat post rift due to cc crown. But pre rift both are very nice in fights so I make both. i'd say, just craft thuelcite crowns and make sone log armors. 3 log armors are almost the same as 1 thulecite suit, and most of the times you want something else in your body slot than an armor. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 9 minutes ago, Sacco said: i mean, the crown has the same durability per thuelecite piece (210) but it also has an interesting and useful ability. Durability is 1260 HP according to some wiki. You accidentally used your post count for that number. 1 minute ago, Sacco said: 3 log armors are almost the same as 1 thulecite suit, and most of the times you want something else in your body slot than an armor. Durability-wise four log armors equal one thulecite suit. Although the suit will break faster because of the higher damage absorption. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted August 24, 2024 Author Share Posted August 24, 2024 1 minute ago, abrocator said: Durability is 1260 HP according to some wiki. You accidentally used your post count for that number. yes, durability of the suit is 1260 (210 per piece) and thulecite crown is 840 (the same, 210 per piece). i don't get what you are trying to say, sorry. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Sacco said: So... (almost) every single body armor sucks compared to head armors night armor and marble armor got 95% damage absorption unlike every head armor, void armor has insanity aura immunity, wood armor saves durability up if you got it from labyrinth, thule armor takes up less inventory space per point of durability in comparison to a thule crown and allows you to spend it's durability to save up a thule crown's durability etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 19 minutes ago, Sacco said: i'd say, just craft thuelcite crowns and make sone log armors. 3 log armors are almost the same as 1 thulecite suit, and most of the times you want something else in your body slot than an armor. 3 log armors take atleast 3 slots: 1 for 1 armor, 1 for rope/grass and the 3rd for wood Most of the times you want something else in your head slot than armor Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 I think the thulecite suit is better than the crown by a wide margin. There's more opportunity for synergy. Typically, the head slot has the superior addings, such as the enlightened crown and more or less any light source. Honestly, I think the suit is my most used armor piece in the endgame. I use the suit in my periodic crab king fight for the extra bottles Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 Thulecite suit costs 6 thulecite for 1260 hp of 90% protection, it's a pretty good deal, honestly. Thulecite crown is exactly the same in terms of material cost, and its only real perk is just that some hits will not give you hitstun (getting hit with the shield on still drains durability exactly the same, so its not really actually negating any hits.), IDK, i think the thulecite suit is in a fine spot compared to what it is competing with Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 I don’t use the suit too much, but I never thought it was a bad piece of armor. Sometimes just having an old reliable chest armor is all you need, and the suit slots nicely into that role compared to night armor/marble suits (while lasting considerably longer than either). Combine it with pretty much any expendable head armor, and it is very likely that suit will survive an entire boss fight provided you are kiting the boss reasonably well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balter Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 The thulecite suit is actually really OP and I consider it one of the best armors out there even trumping the crown. Playing as Walter this armor is insanely good, it gives you a passive sanity regen constantly even at night it’s literally a better tamoshanter because it’s durability won’t go down from being worn. It also has higher durability than the crown meaning that using a construction amulet to craft THIS instead of that gives you way more bang for your buck. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChintzyGnat Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 2 hours ago, Sacco said: i'd say, just craft thuelcite crowns and make sone log armors. 3 log armors are almost the same as 1 thulecite suit, and most of the times you want something else in your body slot than an armor. 3 armors vs 1, I can't express how important inventory space is to me. Thuelsite isn't really that expensive I'm gonna be honest, it's pouring out of my ears at this rate. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 Thulecite suit is fine imo. Solid armor that is fairly cheap to make for early/mid game. Head slots are unrivaled for utility, like moggles, celestial crown, eyebrella, etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyBun Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 Thulecite Suit is fine. Wigfrid uses it lategame since her head slot is occupied. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 15 hours ago, Sacco said: i don't get what you are trying to say, sorry. I just can't read (I missed that part of the sentence) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0l0l0 Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 If a piece of armour could prevent damage animations, it would serve as a really good way to encourage tanking (since you'll have a higher DPS without the delays), and I feel that the Thulecite Suit is a good contender for it. I think it'd be a useful property in general. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted August 26, 2024 Share Posted August 26, 2024 Thulecite suit been most reliable armor for me almost always really, I don't think it needs a buff. For what it's value is I take it more than the crown cause it both has good amount of protection but also health for the cost of a green amulet charge. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted August 26, 2024 Share Posted August 26, 2024 make it not break at 0% and make it repairable with refined thulecite Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted August 26, 2024 Share Posted August 26, 2024 I really like the thulecite chest armor, for many characters is my usual early game boss fights armor. I don't really use thulecite much beyond the early game. I think the perks of adding gems for new powerful effects would fit better the W.A.R.B.I.S chest slot, so it can compete with the lunar and shadow late game armors. WARBIS is too expensive, and way way too late game for what it provides IMO. Buffing that instead would make sense. I'd probably remove the lunar shard requirement too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1743991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoodlemanNed Posted August 26, 2024 Share Posted August 26, 2024 just give the bubble to thulecite suits. I dont think you need to design a crazy complex system when such a simple change can make a massive impact. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1744007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted August 26, 2024 Share Posted August 26, 2024 The monkeys paw curls Hotfix #32553: Thulecite crowns force field now a set bonus. -Must have thulecite suit equiped to activate. -Deactivates immedietly if taken off Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159296-how-id-buff-thulecite-suit-to-make-it-more-appealing/#findComment-1744093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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