Willow is far better than Wendy! Prove me wrong!

[Gashzer]

Been watching/reading some peoples DST tier lists recently and realised ive very different views from most of the community.

One character that repeatly falls into the lower tiers is Willow and its just insane that people think Wendy is S-tier when Willow is clearly superior.

Let me just list all Willows positives first of all.

• Willows lighter; more useful than people give it credit for.. allows willow mains to rush into caves after obtaining a pickaxe (caves generally have more untouched resources than the surface world if joining later in pub games) but being able to cook stuff on it is absolutely the best thing about it!
• Faster cooking speed + willows lighter allows willow to quickly cook up monster meat/mushrooms on the fly allowing you to sort out hunger/sanity quickly saving a surprising amount of time. 
• Fire immunity helps for tanking through Klaus' fire spell allowing for increases dps on him, helps out in non-cheese dfly fights against larve. Altho every character can light bishops on fire to panic them, feels more comfortable doing it as willow.
• Oh boy big bernie is the most unique follower in the game. Being able to distract and fight nightmare creatures, that alone makes bernie better than abigail. Nightmare fuel is a core resource for many late game powerful gear (dark sword, night armour and most thulecite gear). Bernie acting as tank mob/discount bone helm/nightmare farmer allows characters like maxwell and wicker to reach their max potential early in the game. Maxwell can spam prison and 6 duelists without the worry of shadow creatures. This results in a willow/maxwell duo able to rush up the magic tech tree and quickly wreck bosses.
• Willow has become one of the best characters for fighting nightmare werepig early due to his high insanity aura (bernie and being able to quickly cook mushrooms for sanity, helps alot)
• Also in using the new dreadstone armour willow can straight up tank bosses with both helm and body armour without risk of them both breaking due to her being able to continue the fight insane(this maxes out the armour regen!) with no issue.
• Big bernie is good for farming all basic mobs, spiders,bunnymen for beardhair, hounds, beefalo herds, monkeys, as long as willow helps out.
• Blue mushrooms are numerous, great source of quick plentyful healing or sanity for willow.

Now for the cons:

• Willow does freeze abit faster than normal however this downside isn't very noticable especially since willow can literally stand in fire to warm herself up.
• Bernie can be abit awkward to craft/repair when compared to abigail... his recipe requires beard hair and beefalo wool... materials you have to go out of your way for. Same with the 8 silk and 2 hounds teeth for a sewing kit is fairly expensive during the early game. You can use that silk for a presihatitor instead as other characters for example. However you can spam many bernies allowing for them to replace each other quickly as they die which is far more reliable than abigail.

Overall Willow doesn't require that much setup and is great for ruin rushers with great utility abilities designed for people who prefer living off the land and not wasting time setting up bases with crockpots. She may lack some late game abilities of others but her early game is so great that it doesnt matter (early game is more important than late game as every character becomes op in late game).

Willow pairs very uniquely with other characters with being the only character that can protect people from shadow creatures. This is great for maxwell,wicker, webber with his low sanity, winona (bernie can draw aggro towards catapults and get easily repaired with trusty tape) etc...

Wendy with her 75% damage is just an awful downside makes fighting nightmare creatures a massive annoyance since terror beaks are one of the strongest, most dangerous basic mob in the game. Requiring you to tame an ornery beefalo to get around it. 

Yeah man, Willow is just better and provides more unique help as a team member than Wendy! Thats all from me.

[Mr Giggio]

The fact Abi will drill a crowd regardless u help or not while Bernie need to be sew plenty of times speaks for itself 

Cooking shenanigans and fire source is not relevant enough to tell If a character is superior or not

Yes Willow shines when its about insanity and yes the game is a lot around insanity so kuddos for Willow here. But thats the only single thing and a bigger list despite that doesnt make it true

[Theukon-dos]

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

Been watching/reading some peoples DST tier lists recently and realised ive very different views from most of the community.

One character that repeatly falls into the lower tiers is Willow and its just insane that people think Wendy is S-tier when Willow is clearly superior.

Let me just list all Willows positives first of all.

• Willows lighter; more useful than people give it credit for.. allows willow mains to rush into caves after obtaining a pickaxe (caves generally have more untouched resources than the surface world if joining later in pub games) but being able to cook stuff on it is absolutely the best thing about it!

Caves are meh 90% of the time. And torches are insanely easy to get.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

• Faster cooking speed + willows lighter allows willow to quickly cook up monster meat/mushrooms on the fly allowing you to sort out hunger/sanity quickly saving a surprising amount of time. 

...Why are you eating Monster Meat at all? Hunger is not that hard to solve. And frankly cooking is overrated. If you need to do it, just cook one big batch at once and the time save from the lighter will be minimal.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

• Fire immunity helps for tanking through Klaus' fire spell allowing for increases dps on him, helps out in non-cheese dfly fights against larve. Altho every character can light bishops on fire to panic them, feels more comfortable doing it as willow.

Being useful in all of 3 fights isn't the W you think it is. Especially because Wendy is better in almost every fight in DST. She has -25% less damage, but Abigail increases her damage by 40% when they're targeting the same opponent. Combine that with a beefalo; which lets Wendy get the 40% damage boost without her innate penelty, and a few tricks that can keep Abigail alive against bosses that would normally decimate her, and Wendy can absolutely decimate bosses.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

• Oh boy big bernie is the most unique follower in the game. Being able to distract and fight nightmare creatures, that alone makes bernie better than abigail.

STOP! Stop stop stop stop stop. Woe boy, this is just so, so wrong. Is Bernie better at fighting shadows? Yes. But by GOD that does not outweigh the immense horde-devouring power of Abigail. Oh, your bear killed a few shadows for you? Abigail's already driven the local spider population into near-extinction and is working on Splemonkies next. In addition, Bernie only activates when Willow's insane, while Abigail can be activated 24/7. So while Bernie may be good against shadows, Abigail is going to be better against... everything else.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

• Nightmare fuel is a core resource for many late game powerful gear (dark sword, night armour and most thulecite gear). Bernie acting as tank mob/discount bone helm/nightmare farmer allows characters like maxwell and wicker to reach their max potential early in the game. Maxwell can spam prison and 6 duelists without the worry of shadow creatures. This results in a willow/maxwell duo able to rush up the magic tech tree and quickly wreck bosses.

I'll give you the Wicker/Maxwell synergy. But that's about it. If you're really worried about Nightmare fuel, then Wendy to use Abigail to kill Splemonkies in the nightmare phase, giving you tons of fuel, beard hair, and food.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

• Willow has become one of the best characters for fighting nightmare werepig early due to his high insanity aura (bernie and being able to quickly cook mushrooms for sanity, helps alot)

Absolutely not. Maybe one of the better characters, but definitly not the best. Wolfgang, Wigfrid, and Wanda both have better damage (You need to go to the ruins anyways in Wanda's case). While WX and Wilson are both better at rushing the ruins in the first place. And being able to save 20 seconds cooking mushrooms is not an advantage.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

• Also in using the new dreadstone armour willow can straight up tank bosses with both helm and body armour without risk of them both breaking due to her being able to continue the fight insane(this maxes out the armour regen!) with no issue.

I don't know anything about Dreadstone armor, so maybe this is true. Unfortunately, Dreadstone armor's pretty bad in general, so a single character being able to (theoretically) use it well isn't that much of a boon. Atleast not for the character.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

• Big bernie is good for farming all basic mobs, spiders,bunnymen for beardhair, hounds, beefalo herds, monkeys, as long as willow helps out.

Abigail is better.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

• Blue mushrooms are numerous, great source of quick plentyful healing or sanity for willow.

...And they're not plentiful for everyone who isn't Wigfrid or Wormwood? I genuinly don't know what you're trying to prove here.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

Now for the cons:

• Willow does freeze abit faster than normal however this downside isn't very noticable especially since willow can literally stand in fire to warm herself up.
• Bernie can be abit awkward to craft/repair when compared to abigail... his recipe requires beard hair and beefalo wool... materials you have to go out of your way for. Same with the 8 silk and 2 hounds teeth for a sewing kit is fairly expensive during the early game. You can use that silk for a presihatitor instead as other characters for example. However you can spam many bernies allowing for them to replace each other quickly as they die which is far more reliable than abigail.

Overall Willow doesn't require that much setup and is great for ruin rushers with great utility abilities designed for people who prefer living off the land and not wasting time setting up bases with crockpots. She may lack some late game abilities of others but her early game is so great that it doesnt matter (early game is more important than late game as every character becomes op in late game).

Willow pairs very uniquely with other characters with being the only character that can protect people from shadow creatures. This is great for maxwell,wicker, webber with his low sanity, winona (bernie can draw aggro towards catapults and get easily repaired with trusty tape) etc...

Wendy with her 75% damage is just an awful downside makes fighting nightmare creatures a massive annoyance since terror beaks are one of the strongest, most dangerous basic mob in the game. Requiring you to tame an ornery beefalo to get around it. 

Yeah man, Willow is just better and provides more unique help as a team member than Wendy! Thats all from me.

Hate to break it to you, but you're just wrong. While you do make some good points on Willow's strength, you're either unaware or actively ignoring everything that Wendy does so, so much better. She's better at fighting, she's better at farming, and she has better sanity management. There's a reason Wendy has become the new player's darling sense her refresh. She's just really, really good.

[Tranoze]

Wes is far better than everyone, prove me wrong
Been watching/reading some peoples DST tier lists recently and realised ive very different views from most of the community.

One character that repeatly falls into the lower tiers is Wes and its just insane that people think everyone is S-tier when Wes is clearly superior.

Let me just list all Wes positives first of all.

• Wes balloon; more useful than people give it credit for.. allows Wes mains to rush into caves after obtaining a pickaxe (caves generally have more untouched resources than the surface world if joining later in pub games) but being able to walk to stuff with it is absolutely the best thing about it!
• Faster hunger drain speed + Wes hunger allows Wes to quickly eat up monster meat/mushrooms on the fly allowing you to sort out excess food quickly saving a surprising amount of time. 
• Oh boy big balloons is the most unique follower in the game. Being able to do nothing, that alone makes balloon better than all.
• Wes has become one of the best characters for fighting everything early due to his low damage (Which make him hit enemy more for emotional damage, helps alot)
• Also in using the new dreadstone armour wes can straight up tank bosses with both helm and body armour without risk of them both breaking due to him being able to die before any amor broke with no issue.
• Big baloons is good for farming all basic mobs, spiders,bunnymen for beardhair, hounds, beefalo herds, monkeys, as long as it pops out.
• Blue mushrooms are numerous, great source of quick plentyful healing or sanity for Wes.

Now for the cons:

• There are no cons

Overall Wes doesn't require that much setup and is great for ruin rushers with great utility abilities designed for people who prefer living off the land and not wasting time setting up bases with crockpots. He may lack some late game abilities of others but her early game is so great that it doesnt matter (early game is more important than late game as every character becomes op in late game).

Wes pairs very uniquely with other characters with being the only character that can protect people by dying with shadow creatures and let them revive for free sanity. This is great for maxwell,wicker, webber with his low sanity, winona (baloon can draw aggro towards catapults and get easily repaired with trusty tape) etc...

Other with their 100% damage is just an awful downside makes fighting nightmare creatures a massive annoyance since terror beaks are one of the strongest, most dangerous basic mob in the game. Requiring you to tame an ornery beefalo to get around it. 

Yeah man, Wes is just better and provides more unique help as a team member than all others! Thats all from me.

[Duck986]

11 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said:

STOP! Stop stop stop stop stop. Woe boy, this is just so, so wrong. Is Bernie better at fighting shadows? Yes. But by GOD that does not outweigh the immense horde-devouring power of Abigail. Oh, your bear killed a few shadows for you? Abigail's already driven the local spider population into near-extinction and is working on Splemonkies next. In addition, Bernie only activates when Willow's insane, while Abigail can be activated 24/7. So while Bernie may be good against shadows, Abigail is going to be better against... everything else.

That's why we need a rework of Willow's rework, as rework's standards have changed drastically after 4 years, and new ones totally obliterate the old ones

14 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said:

You need to go to the ruins anyways in Wanda's case

Not really. The thulecite fragments can be obtained from the archives and NF from low insanity. Archives are easier in terms of preparation and raiding imo

[Echsrick]

i hate wendy anyways so its realy easy to say that willow is allways better then wendy no matter what

[Antynomity]

Wendy's better.
I play Webber.
Not going to elaborate further.

[nimzowitsch10]

can willow solo bq by tanking

[Evelo]

Just play what you want to play. If you enjoy Willow go for it! If people give you lip for it then screw em. Have fun! That's the most important thing.
(Also don't light me on fire please, I'm just a happy little Wormwood)

[-Variant]

I'd literally give Klei my right leg for a Willow rework right now cause that's how much she means to me but honestly even I don't think she can beat Wendy's absurd versatility even though she is the better lady, factually speaking. Cough cough.

[abrocator]

Willow being able to outsource shadow creature fighting is pretty unique. The only helpers that I know of for that is:

• Bernie
• Ornery beefalo

It was really annoying having to fight a ton of nightmare creatures as Wickerbottom early game. Once I got an Ornery it got bearable.

Update: Buut it doesn’t matter though because any decent player has a bone helmet by day 27, after which you don’t have to fight any nightmare creatures that you don’t wanna.

[maxwell_winters]

6 minutes ago, -Variant said:

I don't think she can beat Wendy's absurd versatility even though she is the better lady, factually speaking.

Abigail is bad against most bosses. If they give Willow something that's good against bosses (explosives, cough cough) she would come closer to Wendy. 

[Evelo]

5 minutes ago, abrocator said:

Update: Buut it doesn’t matter though because any decent player has a bone helmet by day 27, after which you don’t have to fight any nightmare creatures that you don’t wanna.

I think the term "decent" is incorrect in this situation. You have to actively go for it especially solo on day 27. That's some speed running strategy not just a "decent" player.

[WONTow]

Lol nah, I gotta have to disagree with you on almost everything, and I'm a one trick. Willow is bad. Like straight up bad.

Willow's biggest flaw is that she isn't useful on a team wide basis. Every character has a role, but Willow does not have a role. All of the perks that she herself has only benefits her. But the one thing that Willow brings to her team, and the thing that took up most of her development time, that being the bear, just sucks. He's clunky, he's buggy, and everything he does Abigail can do 10 times better. And he could use some fat QOL changes.

So here's a list of almost everything wrong with Bernie, because there is a lot of things to list:

1. BERNIE only activates when Willow is insane. Cool so he can attract the teams shadow creatures at all stages, but if you plop him down without Willow being insane, he'll be small. And that'll give you, what, 5 seconds? Because he's gonna have like 20 shadows beating him up, and he can't tank anything when small, and that's just a waste of a sewing kit usage.
2. BERNIE only deactivates when Willow is sane, when he dies, or are out of reach. When he's active, you can't deactivate him whenever. You have to wait for him to die, or get sane. This can be annoying, especially when you want to save durability.
3. It takes 1-3 seconds for him to activate. The accuracy in which speed it takes for him to activate is like throwing darts at a moving target, it's never consistent. Sometimes he activates instantly, sometimes he stand there as Bernie for a good 3 seconds before he grows. Lag doesn't change it, neither does your distance or how much you move, or doesn't move. It's never the same.
4. BERNIE dies way too quickly. 2000 health, no defense. He can take around 10 shadow creatures before he kicks the bucket. If you help him, he can take double that. He can't take a horde of spiders because he only got a
5. Single target ability. One type of attack, that is single target. No AoE slam like bearger. Need I say more?
6. Poor damage. 50 damage, every 2 seconds, on a single target. It takes 3 hits to kill a hound. That becomes a problem when we get to the technical side of things.
7. BERNIE is stupid. He swaps between targets all the time. He doesn't focus on one hound, rather wants to hit every hound atleast once. He focus on the spider warrior instead of the basic spider. He wants to kill the newly spawned crawling horror instead of the shadow beak we've been hitting for a while.
8. His distraction is clunky. Enemies cheap shot you all the time. There is a skill expression to this, but I still feel like I got cheated when they're supposed to be distracted...
9. When BERNIE dies, he is left on the floor for you to pick up. This can be a huge pain, because he's always gonna be covered in a horde of enemies that are now aggro'd onto you. So you gotta have to do a wide U-turn to lead them away from Bernie so you can pick him up. In a laggy server, it might not even be possible to pick him up if you got a huge conga line right behind you. So you gotta craft 2 Bernies so you can drop one right after the other one died to give you time.
10. When BERNIE dies, everything immediately target you. There is no leeway, no re-aggro, no cooldown. When BERNIE dies, you'd immediately get struck by something.
11. BERNIE has 2 sets of movement speed, running and walking. None of which can be increased or decreased, none of which scales with Willow.
12. BERNIE deactivates when he's too far away from Willow. As an addition on 5, when Willow gets too far away from him, he deactivates. His movespeed doesn't scale with Willows bonus movespeed, so if Willow has a bonus movespeed of 30% or faster, he deactivates. He can deactivate by simply following a road, he will definetly deactivate when following a road or cobblestones holding a walking cane, heck, he can deactivate by continuously crashing into trees if you move in a forest. His animation are also a few seconds long that cannot be cancelled unless he's hit, even if you're far away, because the animation for distracting things has prio over running towards you. If you encounter a single spider in a forest, you might suddenly find him deactivated because he did the animation over following you...
13. BERNIE can't go on boats. Don't really need to add anything here.
14. Can't see his HP. His biggest design flaw. I mean c'mon.

That's all I can think of for now. I'm sure Klei is sick and tired of hearing about Willow for years, but I feel like it's not asking much to want the fire based character to be based around fire, or for her pocket miniboss to feel like a half functioning mini boss that is actually a hunking monster and not some giant target dummy that falls apart by the wee touch of a sharp object. I mean I guess he is technically that, but c'mon, throw us a bone or something.

[Flip Face]

I just think Bernie's "maintenance" should be fun.

Spoiler

What I miss most about Bernie is keeping him well, taking care of him, having tea with him...

Spoiler

I've tried to power up the pigs with Warly's recipes, helmets and cures, but I can't keep their loyalty.

Returning to the subject, it would be great if Bernie had a lunar version and other things that were pointed out above.

3 hours ago, WONTow said:

So here's a list of almost everything wrong with Bernie, because there is a lot of things to list:

But this is still about Willow, and it seems that people think that for her to be a good character, she has to be more combat efficient.

I don't blame them because Bernie is the biggest part of her rework.

And while I'm prone to suggest that she van work with other types of fire in many ways,

3 hours ago, maxwell_winters said:

(explosives, cough cough)

it's not up to me to think what's best for her, especially in this section of the forums.

[Mr Giggio]

9 hours ago, Theukon-dos said:

torches are insanely easy to get

plus some mobs can panic when on fire and the torch gives 100% burn status [against pigs and clockworks for example], the lighter isnt that consistent, sometimes it burns, sometimes not. Its lame.

 

9 hours ago, Duck986 said:

That's why we need a rework of Willow's rework

I didnt get it too. Why they didnt gave for her fire power stuff. Like, the piromaniac without a single perk damage related around fire. Its lame.

 

3 hours ago, WONTow said:

Can't see his HP. His biggest design flaw. I mean c'mon

Yup. Yup yup, I cant understand it either. Its lame.

[maxwell_winters]

1 minute ago, Mr Giggio said:

Like, the piromaniac without a single perk damage related around fire. Its lame.

It seems they took that stupid meme of Willow burning the base too seriously. Nothing else in the game is balanced around pubs. Everyone can burn your base with a torch. I came to a pub once and got ambushed by the Eye of Terror the first night before getting any armor and weapons. I don't understand why Willow rework is the only exception to the rule being designed with griefing in mind.

[Spirit Glow]

Mike23ua been real silent ever since this post came out 

 

All jokes aside, listing every perk and usage a character has can make anyone sound powerful.

[Guille6785]

18 hours ago, Gashzer said:

 

• Willows lighter; more useful than people give it credit for.. allows willow mains to rush into caves after obtaining a pickaxe (caves generally have more untouched resources than the surface world if joining later in pub games)

torches exist (and that doesn't even matter because sinkhole lights shine over where the grass and twigs are anyway)

[Gashzer]

22 hours ago, Mr Giggio said:

The fact Abi will drill a crowd regardless u help or not while Bernie need to be sew plenty of times speaks for itself 

Cooking shenanigans and fire source is not relevant enough to tell If a character is superior or not

Yes Willow shines when its about insanity and yes the game is a lot around insanity so kuddos for Willow here. But thats the only single thing and a bigger list despite that doesnt make it true

Drill crowds of already easily farmed mobs like spiders isnt that impressive. Wormwood can craft bramble husks to achieve the same effect for farming spiders (just heal back up the slight damage taken with glands), which he can give to everyone effectively turning every character into Abigail. No other character can farm nightmare creatures passively like Willow. 

Wendys only claim to fame is being able to rush bee queen by day 10, but so can winona by building permanent catapults that everyone can use to repeatly farm bee queen without the winona even being present. Again Abigail is replaceable by a better character.

4 hours ago, Guille6785 said:

torches exist (and that doesn't even matter because sinkhole lights shine over where the grass and twigs are anyway)

Willows lighter lasts a full 10mins, torches last 75secs... even wilsons torch only lasts like 2mins... meaning you will begin to burn through that grass and twig supply to make torches that could be better spent on things like armour, tools and weapons. And if you turn the torch on/off to save fuel you will go insane (unless you are playing the best character in the game walter!) and fighting nightmare creatures will slow down exploration.  This is for rushing cave exploration day 1 ofc.

[Guille6785]

6 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Willows lighter lasts a full 10mins, torches last 75secs... even wilsons torch only lasts like 2mins... meaning you will begin to burn through that grass and twig supple to make torches that could be better spent on things like armour, tools and weapons. And if you turn the torch on/off to save fuel you will go insane (unless you are playing the best character in the game walter!) and fighting nightmare creatures will slow down exploration.  This is for rushing cave exploration day 1 ofc.

I don't understand exactly what you are doing in the caves on day 1 where the lighter somehow shines, like I just explained the areas around the staircases (that have grass and twigs) already have natural light, you're not wasting grass and twigs by gathering them here, it sounds like you've never gone down a cave entrance for resources and you're just making up a situation to justify the lighter not being terrible

inb4 "it's good for rushing the ruins"

[Mr Giggio]

2 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Wormwood can craft bramble husks to achieve the same effect for farming spiders (just heal back up the slight damage taken with glands)

Thats make Wormwood superior than Willow as well

2 hours ago, Gashzer said:

No other character can farm nightmare creatures passively like Willow

No ones needs It. U want a real nightmare Farm? Consistent? check this out:

Here. A Whole stack. Depending on How many you can get two stacks. Nope u dont need the Boof but yeah make it quite easier. Besides that, one or two shadows per day are not a big of deal. Every char can farm a whole stack per season, she makes it easier and Im not denying that, but like saying the time u Will spend drilling a huge horde isnt that good compared with killing some shadows ... The time Abi needs is way less, like more than half less, sometimes 1/3 of the time a regular character need. Now THIS is relevant for time consuming quests. More than cooking for sure.

 

 

2 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Wendys only claim to fame is being able to rush bee queen by day 10, but so can winona by building permanent catapults that everyone can use to repeatly farm bee queen

Thats true. But the thread isnt about Willow mate? I mean .-. 

[Gashzer]

1 hour ago, Mr Giggio said:

Thats make Wormwood superior than Willow as well

Yeah wormwood is better than Willow and Wendy, no debate there, wormwood can rush top tier magic and provide everyone with the AoE abilities (body slot abigail), plus easy use of farmplots. And when Klei allow for both backpack and armour, bramble husk will become even more easy to use.

My point is Wendy brings nothing unique to the team whereas Willow acting like a day 1 bone helm can be incredibly useful to a team but is overlooked by many.

1 hour ago, Mr Giggio said:

 

No ones needs It. U want a real nightmare Farm? Consistent? check this out:

 

The farming method looks extremely dangerous without the use of beefalo.

A better method would be to lead shadow sneaked bunnymen through a set of wormwood bramble traps. Can do that on surface and have it close to base.

Again these seem to be late game farming methods when you have loads of every resource... early game farming is more important and nightmare fuel is one of more important resources to get a ton of quickly for plenty of thulecite gear/shadow gear.

[Mr Giggio]

7 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

A better method would be to lead shadow sneaked bunnymen through a set of wormwood bramble traps. Can do that on surface and have it close to base.

Yes and spend a giga Ton of resources to do the same, 40 bunny houses plus the traps solo, yikes.

 

9 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Again these seem to be late game farming methods

I do it first autumm every run I pick Maxwell while rushing ruins first time.

[Mike23Ua]

For the Record: Bernie does NOT need a Willow around to activate, it only needs an Insane Player nearby while it’s on the ground. It will not grow to full size BERNIE! But it WILL Animate to life and dance around distracting shadow monsters- for an experienced player this may mean next to nothing, but for a new player to DST NOT Dying to those Shadows is a freaking breath of fresh air.

And as a #Wendy Main I’m just gonna tell you straight up right now Abigail will NOT fight Shadow Creatures at all.. if your an Insane Wendy with 4 Terrorbeaks chasing you, she’s just gonna stand around & watch as you join her in the act of unliving.

Bernie can also be cuddled for Warmth, again.. super un-useful to you experts, but I had my noob friend PRAISING Willow just for the ability to use her lighter, light a tree on fire and stand in that burning fire holding Bernie to avoid freezing to death in Winter.

All in all: Rather Wendy or Willow is better is going to depend on your PLAYSTYLE, if you suck at fighting Terrorbeaks never under any circumstances play as Wendy. Like Wise.. If You rely on standing near Dragonfly’s Lava pools for free warmth (and an instant recharge on your thermal stone) never ever EVER stand by these pools as anyone other than Willow unless you just enjoy losing health and being on fire.

The harsh reality of things is people hate on Wendy cause they feel she does everything, she does not.. she’s designed solely to be good against swarm mobs, that’s her literal design intent.. and anything outside of that- she going to struggle with or require skill in doing.

Likewise: Bernie’s sole design intent is to distract and fight shadow monsters, it CAN fight hound waves, or whatever else you wanna try to get it to fight, but it’s entire design is intended to fight nightmare creatures.. anything beyond that: will require skill.

TL:DR- Wendy & Willow are designed to do different things, and they do their intended jobs better than the other.