ALCRD Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) So the gear tiers nonsense stays then? Opinion warning: At first i was interested in this refresh i thought to myself - hey that's pretty neat they just need to maybe adjust things like nerf the shadow prision to not work on bosses or add diminishing returns to it. And fix the aggro. Well they fixed the aggro but they also decided to add these unintuitive poorly explained/showcased gear tiers scaling for the Duelists and nerfed Duelists base damage to the ground. I honestly lost interest in this refresh. Edited November 10, 2022 by ALCRD 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Could the efficiency of some Wickerbottom's books be halved when read by Maxwell? It's her books, anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafyFly Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, BB Marioni said: Oh, has anyone tried having the reanimated skeleton for combat in the caves while Maxwell is wearing full bone gear? Won't duelists attack the skeleton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, Castiliano said: Could the efficiency of some Wickerbottom's books be halved when read by Maxwell? It's her books, anyway. He uses 2.5x sanity when reading them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafyFly Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Arcwell said: Seeing a lot of complaints about 44 damage from dark sword + night armor + magic hat being worse than the 60 from thurible + bone armor + bone helm. It's still a lot of damage, guys: Much faster than I do it with Wolfgang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, LeafyFly said: Much faster than I do it with Wolfgang. prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafyFly Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, edulopes said: prove it No, six minutes is fast enough for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Marioni Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, LeafyFly said: Won't duelists attack the skeleton? would they? is it the same for the forest version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, BB Marioni said: would they? is it the same for the forest version? Just tested, duelists do attack reanimated skeleton while thurible is out both in overworld and caves. The reanimated skeleton in the caves also attacks the duelists which is pretty funny. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafyFly Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, edulopes said: prove it About ten minutes with a hambat, maybe I can do it faster with a shadow sword. However, I will not change character for it after this rework. 2 hours ago, BB Marioni said: would they? is it the same for the forest version? Klei never said that duelists don't attack the skeleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POOH_LY Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I have got some time to play with the new Maxwell a bit. I feel like they mess up kiting pattern, making it way harder to fight with them. It sounds really good on paper, but it seems very impractical. Now, there's just no reason to summon them. If summoning minions is gonna make the fight harder and cost resources, why should I? Correct me if I am wrong here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 please fix this skin klei and any other that may be bugged, please 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mert_TR Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Would be really nice if Shadow Sneak had some more interactions. Maby transforming flowers to evil flowers or even pigs to werepigs. Or even maby kill gestalts in the spells range since gestalts were negatively effected by the Charlie's nighmare torch in an animated short. Stuff like this would be nice little details since the spell is not something I imagine would be used a lot in game at its current state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberSkink Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I personally love the change of the shadow creatures not being targeted by default attack anymore. Although I still think that the fuelweaver gear should be buffed by at least 5-10 damage because it’s endgame gear. Also, I would personally like the casting time to be canceled by walking, this would make bosses just a little easier. this is just my opinion though, so do what you guys want. Love the work you guys put into this game! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Arcwell said: Just tested, duelists do attack reanimated skeleton while thurible is out both in overworld and caves. The reanimated skeleton in the caves also attacks the duelists which is pretty funny. would be cool if they change that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 14 hours ago, V2C said: The attack key will no longer auto-target shadow creatures that aren’t attacking you while wearing the Bone Helm other players still can attack the shadows by pressing F... making this maxwell playstile in groups is bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, edulopes said: other players still can attack the shadows by pressing F... making this maxwell playstile in groups is bad That implies other players are insane, in which case they'd want to be attacking the thing attacking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Arcwell said: That implies other players are insane, in which case they'd want to be attacking the thing attacking them. nope, my frient was full sanity as wormwood, he didnt even see the shadows 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, edulopes said: nope, my frient was full sanity as wormwood, he didnt even see the shadows Huh. That should definitely be fixed then if that's the case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Arcwell said: Huh. That should definitely be fixed then if that's the case yep Don't Starve Together 2022.11.10 - 15.34.39.03.mp4 he even have the enligthment crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, POOH_LY said: I have got some time to play with the new Maxwell a bit. I feel like they mess up kiting pattern, making it way harder to fight with them. It sounds really good on paper, but it seems very impractical. Now, there's just no reason to summon them. If summoning minions is gonna make the fight harder and cost resources, why should I? Correct me if I am wrong here. What do you mean mess up kiting pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, LeafyFly said: About ten minutes with a hambat, maybe I can do it faster with a shadow sword. However, I will not change character for it after this rework. 2 hours ago, LeafyFly said: No, six minutes is fast enough for me. it takes me six minutes as wolf with a ham bat lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Guille6785 said: it takes me six minutes as wolf with a ham bat lol We can't all be gods like you Guille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafyFly Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Guille6785 said: it takes me six minutes as wolf with a ham bat lol To be honest, I haven't tested how long it takes me to kill Celestial Champion with Wolfgang. All I know is it takes about a day. Maybe someone can do it within four minutes, but it's only two minutes advantage. How long will it take Wolfgang to get the logs that Maxwell gets in four minutes? I mean Maxwell is strong enough and we shouldn't talk endlessly about Duelists. Edited November 10, 2022 by LeafyFly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnnnnnnnnnnnn Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) I think people are looking at the new mechanics narrowly. Sure, shadow fighters don't deal much damage, though I would disagree because his shadows dealing 44 damage with the standard shadow armor/sword plus hat is already cool, and considering the fact that you can summon 6 of them, it's 240 damage already. Maxwell also is not limited with duelists, he can summon other things like shadow prison meaning he is able to take the control over the enemies which can be determinant in some situations. Remember that DST is a co-op game, no character should be able to solo fight all the bosses in the game, nor should they be able to deal tons of damage per hit without the help of the other survivors. I personally think that Max should be a powerful support character that can also stand for himself when needed, like Warly but with different mechanics and use. If everyone's going to be DPS, what fun of a game will it be? Edited November 10, 2022 by Linnnnnnnnnnnnn 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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