PuffinBy Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Since she cannot be put to sleep in anyways now, and Winter Feast is so rewarding and fun that some players would even let it on all the time, I feel bad for Wicker (and Wicker players) to be cut out from such an enjoying part of the game. That says if devs are going to hang on to this NO SLEEP thing, I really hope there's an alternate way for Wicker to get her own share of Winter Feast gifts. Or just, you know, it's not that big a deal or OP in anyways to bring back her "ability" to be forced to sleep by magical stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemNPhy Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Playing Wickerbottom in Winter's Feast has always been painful. I was mostly relying on friends to give me their gifts from time to time, and that is the spirit of Winter's Feast, isn't it? Having to eat mutated mushrooms to collapse at the right spot and the right time was hard! That been said, she's now completely immune to sleep, and that's a real advantage. Maybe her inability to get gifts from Festive Trees is Wickerbottom's real downside. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1585804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I would really love for her to have an exhaustion mechanic, as in: the player themselves can’t get her to sleep by any means at all however after so long without sleep she just passes out and takes a small nap like cooking or eating a Mandrake.. Perhaps she can even have quotes Similar to Wanda’s Aging like “I feel a bit tired..” “Can’t hold my eyes open..” “ZzZ- I’m dozing off” and then Finally after passing out and waking up “Thank Goodness I thought I’d never get to sleep!” There would be no way for the player to prevent this exhaustion mechanic- it would work similar to how characters in State of Decay 2 continue to lose Stamina until they get proper rest. (Which for Wicker would only be possible when she collapses from exhaustion) This allows the player to “Time” their naps so they can get WintersFeast gifts on X night every other night. I love this idea a whole lot better than not being able to sleep at all period. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1585817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemNPhy Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I wonder if her insomnia is linked to her lore. It would make sense that her library burning would trigger PTSD, especially if she was dozing when it happened, making it impossible for her to sleep once she entered the Constant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1585821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapientis Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 My head cannon is that Wickerbottom doesn't receive gifts because she, in fact, leaves them under the tree for other survivors to enjoy. Her birthday on 6th of december only solidifies this idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1585961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemNPhy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Sapientis said: Her birthday on 6th of december only solidifies this idea. On St Nicholas" day? And suddenly the planets all align... Thank you for pointing that out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1586028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2mk Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 12 hours ago, PuffinBy said: Since she cannot be put to sleep in anyways now, and Winter Feast is so rewarding and fun that some players would even let it on all the time, I feel bad for Wicker (and Wicker players) to be cut out from such an enjoying part of the game. That says if devs are going to hang on to this NO SLEEP thing, I really hope there's an alternate way for Wicker to get her own share of Winter Feast gifts. Or just, you know, it's not that big a deal or OP in anyways to bring back her "ability" to be forced to sleep by magical stuff. Maybe she should deal double damage to Klaus in anger and just steal the gifts from him Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1586032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Sapientis said: My head cannon is that Wickerbottom doesn't receive gifts because she, in fact, leaves them under the tree for other survivors to enjoy. My idea But sure, your idea works too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1586048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 RIP Billy ornament. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1586049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fill-Lips Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Maybe a speciel night eye cover that lets Wicker sleep near a winter feast tree, but only near winter feast trees. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1586065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffinBy Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Sapientis said: My head cannon is that Wickerbottom doesn't receive gifts because she, in fact, leaves them under the tree for other survivors to enjoy. Her birthday on 6th of december only solidifies this idea. Never thought of it that way, that would be so sweet of our loving grandma. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1586126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenpelz Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 YES please! I'm a Wickerbottom main but I'm also a simple human being who likes the dopamin spikes from opening lootboxes, please don't take that joy away from WF and force me to play a terrible mobile game for it instead, Klei. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1587912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck986 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 don't see any real reason of doing so, because every of these items can be gotten during regular playthrough: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1587950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapientis Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Duck986 said: don't see any real reason of doing so, because every of these items can be gotten during regular playthrough: With current iteration of Lunar Grimoire maybe she should be able to get some Yellow or Green Gems, ijs... Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1587959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 11:07 AM, Mike23Ua said: I would really love for her to have an exhaustion mechanic, as in: the player themselves can’t get her to sleep by any means at all however after so long without sleep she just passes out and takes a small nap like cooking or eating a Mandrake.. Perhaps she can even have quotes Similar to Wanda’s Aging like “I feel a bit tired..” “Can’t hold my eyes open..” “ZzZ- I’m dozing off” and then Finally after passing out and waking up “Thank Goodness I thought I’d never get to sleep!” There would be no way for the player to prevent this exhaustion mechanic- it would work similar to how characters in State of Decay 2 continue to lose Stamina until they get proper rest. (Which for Wicker would only be possible when she collapses from exhaustion) This allows the player to “Time” their naps so they can get WintersFeast gifts on X night every other night. I love this idea a whole lot better than not being able to sleep at all period. I posted about this mechanic or something similar a while back. It also aligns with the drawback and also changes fundamentals of how players play the game. They'd have to sleep to prevent that exhaustion or wait until exhaustion is recovered before going out into fighting. Compared to Wilson it drastically changes gameplay similar to how Wormwood, Warly, and Wanda change the gameplay compared to Wilson / any other survivor. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141859-there-should-be-a-way-for-wicker-to-get-winter-feast-tree-gifts/#findComment-1588156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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