nimzowitsch10 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 We cave based to stay away from griefers but today they have finally figured out how to use caves and seen how they could be utilized for bases. One of our base builds from a while back:: Our current base destroyed: So until klei develops some anti griefing measures I guess this is how the cookie cumbles. GGs griefers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: We cave based to stay away from griefers but today they have finally figured out how to use caves and seen how they could be utilized for bases. One of our base builds from a while back:: Our current base destroyed: So until klei develops some anti griefing measures I guess this is how the cookie cumbles. GGs griefers. Why not just make your own server where you can ban people your asking Kiel to invest resources into something that has a simple solution. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 @Mysterious box When did I ask klei to invest any of their resources, do u know how to read? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 These type of servers don’t exist on Xbox version of the game, and maybe that is actually for the best.. But if you play in a public server your playing in the Wild West- there are no rules, no laws, and pretty much anything is fair game. I don’t think any sort of grief protection should be done about it- some people play to experience exactly that kind of WW behavior.. if you want to play a more serious long term permanent world- host your own so you can kick/ban/rollback as you need to. the only thing I think that might assist in grief protection in a serious manor would be allowing the player to have their own home like the Hamlet DLC where they can customize it with furniture and store all their stuff inside. But so far- we don’t have Hamlet houses in DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just-guy Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: When did I ask klei to invest any of their resources 19 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: So until klei develops some anti griefing measures Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chincer Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 there is a reason so many people end playing in survival at first i didnt understand why people would play a klei survival, rush ruins and some bosses then vanish from the server mid winter, then after trying my best in an endless server only for it to be regen or griefed by the time i went back, it felt like a waste of time and didnt let me learn the game. if im going to play in a server where my efforts will be erase might as well play one where that's the main point, and go survival i also been playing with a friend in his server, griefers tried but there is no point when the admin can undo all the damage they did with a rollback or even a simple item regen, you can steal the resources but wont matter if the admin is just going to regenerate them. question, what would be the implications of: not allowing players to directly burn player created items like chests, only natural events can the ability to lock certain items as "unhammerable" if the majority of the people vote for that better logs of what each people is doing in the server "player X started a fire with a torch in Y area" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, nimzowitsch10 said: -snip- These griefers really didn't have anything to do in life apparently to literally even dig up floorings and taking all items if not destroying them. What the heck. Also... This is kinda a thing for pubs, you gotta expect everything to eventually get dug up and destroyed cause some people like destruction. Better to host own games if not just hang out to do whatever in pubs. That be pub life. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: These griefers really didn't have anything to do in life apparently to literally even dig up floorings and taking all items if not destroying them. What the heck. Also... This is kinda a thing for pubs, you gotta expect everything to eventually get dug up and destroyed cause some people like destruction. Better to host own games if not just hang out to do whatever in pubs. That be pub life. That starts to sound like some organized looting lol. People dismantling someone's base taking useful or decorative stuff to use in their own bases somewhere. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblinball Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 52 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: These griefers really didn't have anything to do in life apparently to literally even dig up floorings and taking all items if not destroying them. What the heck. The 2 images are completely different bases, not the same base before and after a grief. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, goblinball said: The 2 images are completely different bases, not the same base before and after a grief. Oh. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 hours ago, nimzowitsch10 said: So until klei develops some anti griefing measures Klei already developed anti griefing measures that can stop 100% of griefers. They allowed players to host servers, ban anyone they want from those servers, whitelist the servers, and rollback or use console commands to undo any damage that's been done. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1572694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summ4r Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 5/24/2022 at 4:07 AM, Mike23Ua said: .the only thing I think that might assist in grief protection in a serious manor would be allowing the player to have their own home like the Hamlet DLC where they can customize it with furniture and store all their stuff inside. i think this is a good idea, but it's still up to klei Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1582110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 4:07 PM, Mike23Ua said: the only thing I think that might assist in grief protection in a serious manor would be allowing the player to have their own home like the Hamlet DLC where they can customize it with furniture and store all their stuff inside. yeah hamlet houses would be great way to hide bases away. they could also add some craftable robot or something which protects your base from griefers and attacks anyone which burns, works, or steals items from your structures even if PvP is off and then after taking care of the threat it reclaims any stolen items and repairs things the way they were before. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1582112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, Summ4r said: i think this is a good idea, but it's still up to klei Griefer makes a house then steals everything and puts it in the house. Now he's made much more than however much he can carry unavailable with no counterplay. Or people put houses in bad spots that block things like they put them right next to the containers before they're all placed and you can't do anything about it. And if everyone can make indestructible houses then they would pile up everywhere and be obnoxious. All of those can be done by griefers but would also be done by people not even trying to grief. Anything that's "I can do this but not griefers" is going to be extremely abusable if "I" is a griefer, or anyone other than a generous player. People already hoard mats in their backpack for no reason, if they could make private houses you would never see anything ever again since it's all holed up in the houses of greedy players who are paranoid about griefers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1582115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, Cheggf said: Griefer makes a house then steals everything and puts it in the house. Now he's made much more than however much he can carry unavailable with no counterplay. Or people put houses in bad spots that block things like they put them right next to the containers before they're all placed and you can't do anything about it. And if everyone can make indestructible houses then they would pile up everywhere and be obnoxious. All of those can be done by griefers but would also be done by people not even trying to grief. Anything that's "I can do this but not griefers" is going to be extremely abusable if "I" is a griefer, or anyone other than a generous player. People already hoard mats in their backpack for no reason, if they could make private houses you would never see anything ever again since it's all holed up in the houses of greedy players who are paranoid about griefers. Yes you are correct- just like anytime a shooter game has added a spawn protection zone the players just camp right outside their spawn to still kill them as they come out of spawn. However: You never know what needs to be patched/fixed or Grief proof until you give it a shot then see what they do with it. Most of Klei’s most recent updates have been shifting away from limited resources and have instead begun to make most things renewable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1582118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 OR you could play PVP servers and accept the chaos! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1582168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenpelz Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 There are discord groups around dedicated servers with rules, admins and sometimes passwords, my experience with those servers is very positive. For example, through a mod any destructive actions are put out in chat, so you immediately know when a person is burning chests etc. and you can votekick them. Admins can be called in if there is more trouble and they are able to locate or restore resources with having to rollback. If you want a safe server to have fun on, look for one of those or organize with community members to set up your own. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1582235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2mk Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 hours ago, LiamAshvinn001 said: OR you could play PVP servers and accept the chaos! What pvp servers? On 5/23/2022 at 3:54 PM, Frosty_Mentos said: These griefers really didn't have anything to do in life apparently to literally even dig up floorings and taking all items if not destroying them. What the heck. Also... This is kinda a thing for pubs, you gotta expect everything to eventually get dug up and destroyed cause some people like destruction. Better to host own games if not just hang out to do whatever in pubs. That be pub life. If pepole keep complaining they're gonna start making bots! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140439-the-griefers-have-finally-figured-us-out-on-pub-servers/#findComment-1582245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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