Baark0 Posted April 23, 2022 Author Share Posted April 23, 2022 5 hours ago, lakhnish said: But again, you literally just proved my point! Lowering that stat modules made you want to pick them and made them more valuable, as it sounded like you were never gonna pick them before and were just gonna use the others you listed! did i say this? i dont remember saying i was gonna pick the stat modules cause of lowered stats, but if i did feel free to correct me i personally dont see stat modules as valuable, as i have 3.3k hours on dst, and believe myself to be pretty good at the game, and as such dont really find myself needing high stats. i do believe there should be a reason to use all modules however, but the way klei went about incentivizing stat modules is boring, as has been said above. personally, i'd like the stat modules to have some other minor effect related to the stat it boosts, like the hunger module slowing the hunger drain rate. maybe the sanity module would reduce sanity loss rate by 10%, maybe the health module makes healing items more efficient (technically its better if you removed the health module and then healed since im pretty sure the health conversion is done in percentages, kinda like how old wolfgang would heal more hp if he healed in wimpy form). nothing crazy, but small things that make the stat modules more interesting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 - stats dont matter - why you nerf stats quantum forum Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nick- Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: - stats dont matter - why you nerf stats quantum forum Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: - stats dont matter - why you nerf stats quantum forum This has already been addressed. Several times. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: - stats dont matter - why you nerf stats quantum forum Here let me try: -Lower stats so people are forced to use stat modules -Increase the number of slots so I'm not forced to use just stats modules and I have MoRE CHoiCeS Yeah, without the proper context any narrative can be created. Edit: Made clearer Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, HowlVoid said: -Lower stats so people are forced to use stat modules 7 hours ago, HowlVoid said: Pleople are against it because it changes nothing. I'm so very confused... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, YouKnowWho said: I'm so very confused... What? Do you even know the context of the two comments? Here's a hint one of them isn't my pov. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJrOfficial Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 To those complaining about no Meaty Stew... there are a few dozen other recipes to learn. And also RIP to Walter and Wigfrids tummies I guess lmao. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, YouKnowWho said: I'm so very confused... One comment is his opinion and the other is him pretending to be disingenuous in the same way the person he was responding to was, but with the opinion changed to show that anyone can make fake summaries that sound stupid because they've been intentionally misinterpreted to be stupid. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblinball Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Baark0 said: people dont want to waste their slots It’s not a waste lol, especially now that you have more incentive to use them thanks to lower base stats. It sounds to me like you’re just upset you’ll have to actually consider using the stat circuits instead of slapping on speed ones and calling it a day. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baark0 Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, goblinball said: It’s not a waste lol, especially now that you have more incentive to use them thanks to lower base stats. It sounds to me like you’re just upset you’ll have to actually consider using the stat circuits instead of slapping on speed ones and calling it a day. Heres the thing though: newer players might be incentivized to use them since they'll think more stats is better, but for players who are more skilled at the game, higher stats are less useful since they know when to heal, and are able to manage hunger and sanity. Honestly it is a waste to use slots since you need to spend more resources filling your higher bars, unless you remove your slots each time you want to eat/heal/restore sanity, since the stat conversion system uses percentages, which is highly inconvenient thanks to needing to restore your charge, and before you bring up methods of restoring charge manually, that takes even more resources. I get the feeling you didn't read my original post, because my original post was asking why removing 25 health and hunger was done, since I believe it does very little in incentivizing the use of stat modules, and making the character weaker. I really couldn't care less about the change, I was just wondering what the point was, which is most likely klei just giving in to the 100 base stat audience. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notecja Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Baark0 said: I get the feeling you didn't read my original post, because my original post was asking why removing 25 health and hunger was done, since I believe it does very little in incentivizing the use of stat modules, and making the character weaker. I really couldn't care less about the change, I was just wondering what the point was, which is most likely klei just giving in to the 100 base stat audience. Because bunch of people asked for solo DS 100 stats, not considering if that will work for everybody, or just for them. In my opinion WX wasn't a challenge character and now is changed to challenge character, as some people just wanted to have fun where they walk on the edge (and fun is subjective). Imo all that stats thing is missing one point in the rework: WX could have be better more of mix'n'match of his all other perks, like do it, run as shiny music box from nobody can escape : D. And yet some people are forcing "lower stats! make him like DS! Make him fun!"... but in other way, which I don't really agree. Why don't play Wes, if you like low stats and "challenge"? Maybe because in the end, is tendiuos and boring? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Health is understandable and a decent nerf. Food is just annoying and dumb, much like other chars with low food thresholds. Aside from the bothersome constant chugging of food, the worst part is making meaty stew no longer be used. I kept saying that if they want to buff thr food circuits they have to give it bonus stat gain on food, NOT capacity Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJrOfficial Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Nobody has been talking about WXs ability to eat stale food as if it was fresh as can be. Am I the only one who enjoyed this perk lol? As soon as you bundle it becomes much less useful, but until then I always really enjoyed that. Is it just me? I bring this up because for new players getting a queen kill won't happen the first in game year. Sometimes even a few. I think can play directly into WXs stomach stats and everything. I always felt eating spoiled food made him one of the best nomadic characters, along with chomping gears, and getting lucky for a speed bonus. Now luck isn't even a factor which is pretty nice all things considered. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baark0 Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Bones Junior said: Nobody has been talking about WXs ability to eat stale food as if it was fresh as can be. Am I the only one who enjoyed this perk lol? As soon as you bundle it becomes much less useful, but until then I always really enjoyed that. Is it just me? I bring this up because for new players getting a queen kill won't happen the first in game year. Sometimes even a few. I think can play directly into WXs stomach stats and everything. I always felt eating spoiled food made him one of the best nomadic characters, along with chomping gears, and getting lucky for a speed bonus. Now luck isn't even a factor which is pretty nice all things considered. this feature is nice cause i can unbundle less often since i dont really care if the food goes stale or not Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139543-what-did-removing-25-health-and-hunger-from-wx-accomplish/page/3/#findComment-1562965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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