Lilrael Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Hi all, i need to use a joint plate but heat is leaking through it (not unexpected but I didnt realise it would be quite that conductive). Does anyone have any images they can share about how they handle it? I remember many many vids ago watching someone creating a vaccum lock around it? But I cant remember where I saw it. If somebody could either point me in the right direction or show me an image that would be much appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Mandor Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Lilrael said: Hi all, i need to use a joint plate but heat is leaking through it (not unexpected but I didnt realise it would be quite that conductive). Does anyone have any images they can share about how they handle it? I remember many many vids ago watching someone creating a vaccum lock around it? But I cant remember where I saw it. If somebody could either point me in the right direction or show me an image that would be much appreciated. Thanks! Noimage right now, but this is very simple. You need small 2 cells room with vacuum, one joint plate going from one side to this room, and another joint plate from this room to another side. plates connected by heavy wire inside room Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fradow Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Alternatively, instead of using joint plate, which are a pain to create a vacuumed room with, pass heavy watt wire through double liquid airlocks (with vacuum in the middle), like this: It's a bit bulky because I use basic liquid airlocks, but you can reduce this a lot with 2-tiles high vertical airlocks, or even go with 1-tile high vertical airlocks if you don't need Dupe access. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntr1cate Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, Lilrael said: Hi all, i need to use a joint plate but heat is leaking through it (not unexpected but I didnt realise it would be quite that conductive). Does anyone have any images they can share about how they handle it? I remember many many vids ago watching someone creating a vaccum lock around it? But I cant remember where I saw it. If somebody could either point me in the right direction or show me an image that would be much appreciated. Thanks! Most common designs use a mini vacuum chamber to stop heat transfering Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobruk Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I personally use the joints because this looks too finicky and gamey to me. But hey, to each their own. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilrael Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 Thanks everyone! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakemw Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I'm rather fond of this sort of thing: Image is from my Guide to Corner Locks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve8 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Here is a live build of a vacuum seal (from 14:20) on: https://youtu.be/mwVhyZOL2U8?t=860 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Question: Does the heavy-watt wire carry no heat or only very little over the gap? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 i always scare one thing about those locks, dupe can drown up , or decide that this is good place to pee Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRup Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Gurgel said: Question: Does the heavy-watt wire carry no heat or only very little over the gap? It does not. Even if it does get heated up on account of some event it's still bound within its 1 tile. It'd be chaotically fun to see all builds have heat leakage from wire to wire interaction if it actually existed. Or in a picture, I had a mishap happen in a vaccum and the wires stayed hot for thousands of cycles, look at the wires & joint plates at the left of the picture: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakemw Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 20 hours ago, gabberworld said: i always scare one thing about those locks, dupe can drown up , or decide that this is good place to pee Typically it's best to have dupes in Atmo Suits whenever you need liquid locks, unless it's very early in the game or a place dupes hardly ever need to visit. Because dupes are messy. With the dupes in atmo suits, the only thing you have to watch out for is a dupe dying in their atmo suit, which releases the contents, or you accidentally ordering the dupe to take their suit off which can also be done by accident when you're manually ordering a different dupe to wear a suit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132612-heat-leaking-through-heavy-watt-joint-plate/#findComment-1485718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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