Ntr1cate Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Saw a recent post about their food preservation design and thought I'd throw in my current design used in my current base which can be used as a carbon dioxide pit early game with enough room for 2 fridges (the water pit is not just used for the micro musher for nosh beans but for the super computer if you decide to move it in the kitchen). The design uses 2 floors of 4tile high rooms so fits in a standard base design. When sweepers is available you can move to a fully automated (except for water for the musher), chlorine filled low powered deep freeze freezer with full kitchen towards endgame (but no sinks?????). All food from all farms/stables is sent to the freezer by conveyor rails all ending at the same conveyor chute instantly entering a state of deep freeze when they land in the freezer. At the same time the sweeper below the mesh tile can reach the food in the freezer and can load all 3 types of cookers (musher/grill/oven) (to cook anything from tofu to surf and turf),the sweepers above the mesh tile clear out the cooked food and send it back to the freezer to reenter deep freeze until its ready to be cooked to the next tier or just straight up eaten(the mesh tile prevents the bottom sweeper loading the conveyor loader which will just keep it in a loop) The chlorine keeps the food in a deep freeze state but transfers heat minimally so it requires minimal power, there is a single tile of carbon dioxide too above the crude oil blockage that minimised further heat loss to the base. The design isn't complete as the duplicants stand in the crude oil (or napthia) puddle when picking up their food for dinner causing wet feet if they don't have atmo suits (which isn't advisable since atmo suits no longer get cleaned by sinks since the merge update and vanilla doesn't have the suit washer (so they will always have **** on their hands after going to the toilet before eating). I'm considering moving the wall on the right side one tile further in with another crude oil lock to allow a second access point for duplicants access to the food. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruxilus Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Too cheap to spring for the third aquatuner, eh? Nice kitchen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Zerohayven said: The design isn't complete as the duplicants stand in the crude oil (or napthia) puddle when picking up their food for dinner causing wet feet if they don't have atmo suits (which isn't advisable since atmo suits no longer get cleaned by sinks since the merge update and vanilla doesn't have the suit washer (so they will always have **** on their hands after going to the toilet before eating). Put an atmosuit dock and check point in front of the lavatory/sink OR since showers still work to clean atmosuits, make a room with lavatory and shower, and lock the dupe inside for 24 seconds or more when using the lavatory forcing the dupe to take a shower Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ntr1cate Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Ruxilus said: Too cheap to spring for the third aquatuner, eh? Nice kitchen. haha lol I can do you one better, I got 4 aquatuners in that specific steam chamber (2 for my ethanol farm, 2 for main base/farms), I think I got about 13 aquatuners total around the map. Never been so happy to make a 5 stable pokeshell farms, only issue now is I am running out of iron lol (no metal volcanos too). 9 hours ago, Saturnus said: Put an atmosuit dock and check point in front of the lavatory/sink OR since showers still work to clean atmosuits, make a room with lavatory and shower, and lock the dupe inside for 24 seconds or more when using the lavatory forcing the dupe to take a shower I run a 20-25 duplicant base (24 atm after booting Nicola to the temporal tear) so the toilets need to be available at all times for all the schedule slots. I'v been considering some docks where the toilets are, only issue is behind the toilet is a natural gas vent which is blocking me moving the toilets back. I will more than likely have to redesign the toilet's setup in my next map once I finish the final touches on my current one, I do like the thought of shower time tho so I might implement that next time around. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 59 minutes ago, Zerohayven said: I run a 20-25 duplicant base (24 atm after booting Nicola to the temporal tear) so the toilets need to be available at all times for all the schedule slots. With the dock/checkpoint set up a single lavatory/sink will still be enough for 24 dupes if they are on separate schedules. With the lavatory/shower set up the limit is probably 12 dupes with a single lavatory/shower due to it taking a bit longer but you do get the +3 morale for showering so there's a small benefit there. Note that both set ups assume that you have a light to speed up lavatory/sink/shower use time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Saturnus said: With the dock/checkpoint set up a single lavatory/sink will still be enough for 24 dupes if they are on separate schedules. With the lavatory/shower set up the limit is probably 12 dupes with a single lavatory/shower due to it taking a bit longer but you do get the +3 morale for showering so there's a small benefit there. Note that both set ups assume that you have a light to speed up lavatory/sink/shower use time. I had no idea that light would also reduce things like this. Time to add sensor based lights in few places Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Mandor Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Why not raise a food two cells higher? Than dupes can take it without going into puddle Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadenSwallow Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Does the gas range get the 'lit workspace' buff, or would the light need to hit 1 tile to the right? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Little pro-tip: if you don't need <-50C temperatures, aquatuned ethanol is more efficient than hydrogen gas. I've seen people use a 2 tile deep "shelf" design for the food store: one tile for food, another for liquid lock, ceiling immediately above it. A bit less efficient with heat, but it's probably worth it, since the cooling costs should still be minimal. I had to triple check the screenshot, because the color filter made it look like you're sending hydrogen gas to the gas cooker. Which could technically make sense, as there was a time when most municipal gas was not methane, but hydrogen+carbon monoxide. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 some temperature test by using the ethanol liquid . had to say power usage is kind off small for aquatuner , but you need stuff like steam turbine for cool it down and soo on, not very friendly early game setup and this is what i probably start use at some point, mess-hall for 48 dupes with center deep freeze food storage Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/132365-my-take-on-deep-freeze-freezer-in-vanilla/#findComment-1483488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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