Pop Guy Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Both are European immigrants. Both young men with great ambitions but without any particular talent. Wilson wished to become a distinguished man of science, Maxwell a great stage magician; neither is presented to us as such in the beginning. Then the unexpected, the opportunity, the accident of chance in this chaotic meaningless universe: For William it was a book containing a mystery knowledge, for Wilson it was a demonic radio. Both were seduced by the opportunity to seize the success they have always longed for and which they thought they deserved. Eventually both of them were overwhelmed by something they did not understand. Eventually, both of them learned to know what lies in the Constant's realm of madness and, in part, to master it. Maxwell was never the real antagonist, rather a protagonist: like Wilson, but from a parallel path. The crux of the story is that Wilson took pity because that grieving soul on the throne was but his reflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman895 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Yeah but Wilson didn't screw up his special someone's life by locking them in another dimension, he didn't kidnap random people to make them suffer for his enjoyment, even on the Nightmare throne Wilson didn't use its powers for evil. I'm surprised everyone was quick to forgive that jerk Maxwell so easily. To me he's still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, rainman895 said: I'm surprised everyone was quick to forgive that jerk Maxwell so easily. Maxwell abuse is my hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyistheGround Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 they always seemed like foils of each other to me their backstories can be quite similar as you've pointed out but their differences is what highlights both of them especially their opinions and experience with magic and science, things that seem like should be total opposites but in the constant, they combine pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Doe Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 You capture my thoughts on the guys pretty well, I think. Behind all the bickering and the rocky history, they're really quite alike. From their ambitions and failures to weaknesses, the two are opposite ends of the same coin. (It's in part a big reason why I ship them, though I realize the romantic aspect isn't for everyone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Well, Wilson does literally mean "Son of William", and Maxwell's real name is William. So take from that what you will . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hornete said: Well, Wilson does literally mean "Son of William", and Maxwell's real name is William. So take from that will you will . Certain fans are going to be upset if they're father and son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcGillacactus Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Pop Guy said: Both are European immigrants. Where'd that info come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyistheGround Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, GrMcGillacactus said: Where'd that info come from? william carter puzzles revealed that maxwell came from liverpool, england and took a ship to new york as for wilson, i think the wiki's source explains it better then i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcGillacactus Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, SkyistheGround said: It was the Wilson bit I wasn't sure of, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Hornete said: Well, Wilson does literally mean "Son of William", and Maxwell's real name is William. So take from that what you will . Wait a sec... If that's the case, Wendy and Wilson are relatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 The idea that the survivors are like Maxwell probably ties into why he picked most of them to come to the Constant. If you want to dig deeper, possibly into lore no longer canon since it's years and years old from unused strings (disclaimer there), Maxwell's big unused head was meant to say these strings in adventure mode in DS: MAXWELL_ADVENTURE_HEAD = "We're not so different, you and I.", "That's why I brought you here.", "That's why I brought all of them here.", "Oh, did you think you were the first?", "HA!" "It's just that..." "I've become accustomed to winning." "Fine. Just remember that you chose this." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourmand Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Wilson is not European just because he was designed to look European (aka white, just a fancy way of saying it). He could be, but I thought the general consensus was he was from a state in New England. Edit: I remember there was an email answering this question, I found the forum post where it was linked but it the link no longer takes you anywhere. Read the post for context here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 9 hours ago, minespatch said: Wait a sec... If that's the case, Wendy and Wilson are relatives. Okay, Maxwell is an old dog but not THAT old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 14 hours ago, DaZoul said: Okay, Maxwell is an old dog but not THAT old. He's two decades older than wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Doe Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 15 hours ago, minespatch said: He's two decades older than wilson. Yeah, and I'm sure he just had a son with a last name totally different than him, who grew up rich when William was poor. I'm 90% certain you're just saying this to start discourse with absolutely zero critical thought (¬_¬") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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