BlueBaby701 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 So, I was fighting Klaus for the first time with a good friend I met in a pub, and while I was fighting, I noticed something strange. Klaus's lock and the sacks lock, were made of thulicite Spoiler And that's where my hunt started Piece #1: The Imps Knowing that the Imps had access to thulicite, I started by looking at the Imps themselves Spoiler What do most of them have in common? 1. Long snout 2. Wide body 3. Huge horns You know what also fits that bill? Piece #2: The Reanimated Skeletons We know that the skeletons once were of an ancient, and a powerful one at that, so lets look at him Spoiler What do they have in common with the imps? 1: Strange, Monstrous look 2: Large Snout 3: Wide Body 4: Huge Horns But lets have a look at the other ancients But where are they again? Oh yeah! Piece 3: The Methus Puzzle Spoiler Notice the strange figures, presumably the ancients. While they are in full body armor, we can make out a few similarities 1: Thin body, like Wortox While most of the ingame Imps are large bodied, this theory presumes that they are Thousands of years old, while Wortox and the Ancients are presumably about a couple hundred And then again, the thinness could just be an artists depiction, and not actually what they looked like 2: Large Horns While they are wearing full body armor and/or robes, it seems the large plates around the head are concealing horns Conclusion Krampus and Klaus are survivors of the incident, maybe also the ones who drew the Methus Puzzle, who escaped to the surface and have been trying (and succeeding in) to regain their former power Wortox, However, is likely proof that there are other survivors of the dissaster, and is most likely offspring of two Imps OR Wortox is a rare magical being corrupted by the imps, proving how immense their power truly is Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I don't wanna be that guy, but I do want to say my opinions: Firstly, the chains aren't really thulecite color, and they are only yellow during winter's feast, normally they are grey. Second, I don't think that Krampus and Klaus are imps. Wortox is an imp, and he only looks like krampus cause he sucked one's soul. The reanimated skeletons were already skeletons, you can see in the murals that the king made them to defend the other ancients. Also, the armor that the ancients wear isn't body armor, but their exoskeleton as they are bug-like creatures. So yea, I don't want to sound like I just want to ruin the whole thing, those are mainly just my opinions Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Also in the murals from the puzzles you can see how different look the ancient in comparation with imps Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bubbainpa Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Aren’t the ancients more Scorpion-like anyways? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Dark Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 The ancients were more like bug-people, I think? Since they've exoskeletons. What a lovely theory though! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Charlie Dark said: The ancients were more like bug-people, I think? Since they've exoskeletons. What a lovely theory though! This is something that i dont get If ancient fuelweaver or any other reanimated skeleton are ancients why we dont use an exoskeleton instead? Do they have both? And why shadow clockworks drop the heart? To much question and them are still coming Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: This is something that i dont get If ancient fuelweaver or any other reanimated skeleton are ancients why we dont use an exoskeleton instead? Do they have both? And why shadow clockworks drop the heart? To much question and them are still coming The skeletons are not the ancients. In the murals, you can see the the King created the, probably for protection. The Shadow Heart has the soul of the King, and when it is placed inside a skeleton, the skeleton becomes the vessel. As to why the shadow pieces have the heart, I cannot give an answer to. Maybe charlie gave it to them or something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Dark Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: This is something that i dont get If ancient fuelweaver or any other reanimated skeleton are ancients why we dont use an exoskeleton instead? Do they have both? And why shadow clockworks drop the heart? To much question and them are still coming The skeleton the fuelweaver has isn't necessarily its own, it's just... a skeleton made from fossils. Hmm I'm not sure about the heart... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, DaZoul said: The skeletons are not the ancients. In the murals, you can see the the King created the, probably for protection. The Shadow Heart has the soul of the King, and when it is placed inside a skeleton, the skeleton becomes the vessel. As to why the shadow pieces have the heart, I cannot give an answer to. Maybe charlie gave it to them or something. 1 hour ago, Charlie Dark said: The skeleton the fuelweaver has isn't necessarily its own, it's just... a skeleton made from fossils. Hmm I'm not sure about the heart... Ye, that is what i though but if you see metheus head it has similar horns like fw. Also, if isnt an ancient bones (fw summons body parts during the fight and i also though that are body parts from that citizens) what is that humanoid creature? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Now I like the idea that Wortox might be of the race from the fuelweavers. Perhaps the ancients wanted immortality and used the imps/krampus as pawns to do body transfer? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 the ancients were insectiod and horns are just a short-hand for corruption in the game. it is a nice theory but not really seeing the evidence of it, you know? but yeah, the skele is just ancient beefalo(ancestor) bones, hahaha Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notecja Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Spoiler How about that guy? [Hamlet spoiler] Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBaby701 Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Notecja said: Reveal hidden contents How about that guy? [Hamlet spoiler] Shadow creature Or potentially a lower ranked them, but that's most likely not the case Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notecja Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, A Random Furry said: Shadow creature Or potentially a lower ranked them, but that's most likely not the case Spoiler Nope. That guy is the Ancient Herald and is quite similar to ancient from murals. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, A Random Furry said: Shadow creature Or potentially a lower ranked them, but that's most likely not the case his head-build looks like a bishops, might be a corrupted form like ancient guardian Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 8 hours ago, A Random Furry said: 1: Thin body, like Wortox While most of the ingame Imps are large bodied, this theory presumes that they are Thousands of years old, while Wortox and the Ancients are presumably about a couple hundred And then again, the thinness could just be an artists depiction, and not actually what they looked like Wortox is not the same race as Krampus and Klaus, he only absorbed a few physical characteristics from one after absorbing it. I also don't really see much of a similarity between the skeletons and Krampii. If you put red fur on them they would really stick out from the other two. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Maybe Klei should explore where the skeletons came from so this can finally get a answer? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121693-i-think-the-imps-are-the-ancients/#findComment-1371139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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